David Lynch - Classic or Dud

The intelligent way to counter Trump is to say “Trump isn't that bad”

the fact that people earnestly care about this is insane to me, the guy has never uttered a coherent political statement in public that I'm aware of

also, for real, burn indiewire to the fucking ground. they suck and I hate them a lot.

Are people legitimately trying to make a deal out of that Trump statement? Def. dumb if you have any sense of the dude.

Dude said he voted for Reagan cause he likes 50s cowboys & doesn’t remember who he voted for in 2016, he is clearly not what you’d call a deep political thinker, he’s practically bruneau-level

Obv people shouldn’t earnestly care what he has to say about this stuff (and don’t really, that I can see, not like they do about eg Kanye who is at least as dumb & incoherent) which is why he should stop talking about it and ppl should stop asking him

I still prefer Lynch (fuck-witted/inarticulate political comments and all) over that annoying smug cunt Alec Baldwin, times about a zillion.

Lynch has had a speech problem since he was young. Which has made for some memorable dialogue in his movies but expecting Lynch to be articulate seems odd to me. Simon otm

I dunno - his points seem pretty clear! And while I don't agree with him, it's kind of an interestingly fucked-up take.

Yeah it’s not really a question of articulation, he’s cheerfully clueless when it comes to anything like this but i think his position is exactly what he says it is. Knowing a bit about his worldview it isn’t that surprising that he genuinely believes this is a likely outcome:

*trump puts kids in cages*
World: boy this shitty president sure is disruptive
(later)
hmm but wat if TM tho 🤔
*paradise ensues*

his folksy patter seems to be slipping since he continues to use that word and not like shambles or muddle

what word

the j word

...josie?

JUDY?

oops i meant the i word

IRENE?!

re trump, i assume ppl have seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up6zyI-cV5k

Issac, Chris

Imbroglio?

Imbruglia?

I'm torn.

The Angriest Trump in the World by D. Lynch
https://i.imgur.com/LPQCoxx.png

hell yah just googled "trump eraserhead" and it delivered

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.326621801.5567/raf,750x1000,075,t,101010:01c5ca27c6.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vwo2YxS1AeA/WyWe5h_Ix1I/AAAAAAABaJM/c-hSTqAJ4wQeg01EY_ZFdC3mr0W8InHhgCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump_Eraserhead_Numbskull.jpg

We may never understand the appeal to David Lynch of a presidency that, using kitsch and dream logic, has transformed ordinary American life into a phantasmagorical hellscape

— Robbie Collin (@robbiereviews) June 26, 2018

lol

So many people, even some ostensibly "serious" critics, taking the "could be one of the great presidents" bit on its own and stripping it of any context is fucking depressing. Obviously Lynch is not the most politically coherent guy but even 15 seconds of reading will make clear they're not straightforward words of praise.

Great meaning large or immense. We use it in the pejorative sense

Good piece: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43595b/no-david-lynch-didnt-actually-praise-trump

Need to find that soundbite of Trump shouting out David Lynch at a rally.

Is this really a hill people are going to die on? This is how adults fail to process that a great artist can have bad politics. There’s maybe an element where people like Peyser agree w what he said but know they can’t say that.

It’s not better to praise Trump as a “disrupter”. In context his quote is no different than Susan Sarandon’s really naive stuff about Trump during the election but worse because now we know things didn’t actually work out that way.

https://www.facebook.com/davidlynchofficial/posts/1800909923291220

Dear Mr. President,

This is David Lynch writing. I saw that you re-tweeted the Breitbart article with the heading – Director David Lynch: Trump ‘Could Go Down as One of the Greatest Presidents in History.’ I wish you and I could sit down and have a talk. This quote which has traveled around was taken a bit out of context and would need some explaining.

Unfortunately, if you continue as you have been, you will not have a chance to go down in history as a great president. This would be very sad it seems for you – and for the country. You are causing suffering and division.

It’s not too late to turn the ship around. Point our ship toward a bright future for all. You can unite the country. Your soul will sing. Under great loving leadership, no one loses – everybody wins. It’s something I hope you think about and take to heart. All you need to do is treat all the people as you would like to be treated.

Sincerely,

David Lynch

That should settle the matter (in the sense that hopefully no one ever again turns to david fucking lynch for political analysis or clickbait)

Genuinely reads like it was written by a nine year old as a class project.

lol

oh no pic.twitter.com/h6kJKs4XhZ

— John Lichman (@jlichman) June 26, 2018

Genuinely reads like it was written by a nine year old as a class project.

― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:14 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fucking seriously. maybe it's an epic troll move because Trumps reads at a third-grade level but all of this bullshit about "You can unite the country" and "It's something I hope you think about and take to heart" are so far out of the realm of actual possibility that they're utterly meaningless. It's like me saying I could win next year's slam-dunk contest.

Is this really a hill people are going to die on?

When the time comes to die, doesn't really matter what hill you're on, does it?

lol otm

earnestly recommending ego death to donald trump is much less ridiculous and confused than tweeting like WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS at him

letter reads fine to me. uses words president can comprehend, appeals to his vanity etc

agreed

This is how adults fail to process that a great artist can have bad politics.

Caring in the first place is a mistake and a distraction. It doesn't matter. I don't know why people are so fixated on artists they like being good people or having "good politics." I have enjoyed people twisting themselves into knots defending the pull quote, when they would've totally written off most other people for saying the same thing. And Lynch is right - it's just an opinion two years out of date. Trump did show how ineffectual and cowardly his opponents were, particularly during the GOP debates. His accomplishment ends there. I don't know how anyone can deny that.

If communication is your main concern, that is exactly how you write a letter to the 45th president of the United States.

Lynch's letter is fine, it's probably a much better way of getting Trump to change (only a 1% chance vs a less than zero percent chance i guess...)

Good piece: https://newrepublic.com/article/149344/living-david-lynchs-art-life

Lynch as “art monster”

Flappy- yeah I get that caring is the mistake. Part of my amazement is that it’s like people trying to avoid the complexity of the art/artist compartmentalization whivh is a pretty basic element of following art and culture.

I don’t think Lynch is talking about the GOP debates he probably didn’t watch when he says “ nobody has intelligently opposed Trump”, What that means he probably never cared enough to listen to some square earnestly talk about why taking peopls’s health care away or tearing up the Iran Deal is bad.

True

Since he is guilty of thought crime and not caring as much as NP why not just write him off and avoid him entirely? Nothing to be gained by waxing on about how much you care and how little others care it’s merely a circle of virtue masturbation

Since he is guilty of thought crime and not caring as much as NP why not just write him off and avoid him entirely? Nothing to be gained by waxing on about how much you care and how little others care it’s merely a circle of virtue masturbation

Why not post twice and avoid him entirely?

earnestly recommending ego death to donald trump is much less ridiculous and confused than tweeting like WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS at him

imagine the lindelhof rewrite tho