Vive la Revolutions: Tour de France 2018

Wow what a mess. Just saw the finish.

I did listen to that Lance TDF podcast & he said the finish was so narrow with tight corners that the finishers would be lucky to have even 1 leadout, let alone 2. So it played out kinda that way & became the free for all we saw. And possibly why Sagan jumped early. I guess he still has that tendency at times.

that being said, idk if i can hang with lance’s podcast. the sound of his voice just triggers me to what an on-the-record confirmed dickbag he has been. and it has such a heyyyy morning “radio” show vibe.

i did lol when he deliberately pronounced Chatres as SHART

I listened to the lance and didn’t think it was that good plus him and his cohost are pretty annoying. unsubscribe

oh god is Craddock really going to ride across 22km of cobbles today

that will be brutal. don't envy him

already claimed the first victim

greenpath’s bike looked split in two :O

crashy

what the hell is going on

amazing stage. talk about a jour sans for bardet

yeah that was really something

christ on a bike that was rough
i think this pic sums it up nicely

War hart heute. #TDF2018 pic.twitter.com/ePesRfHi4Q

— Moritz Cassalette (@MCassalette) July 15, 2018

And how about this for a photo: Oliver Naesen coming right over the top of Rafal Majka 🙈🙈🙈

Pic of the day!
Hope you're OK @majkaformal https://t.co/8vSinYa0Ow

— Oliver naesen (@OliverNaesen) July 15, 2018

Until now I had really processed how nuts the second and third weeks are. There’s only one more sprint stage other than the champs élysées. A couple of barrodeur rollers but no real respite.

Despite the early finish I still fell asleep with 20kms to go. Crazy stage.

Yeah the mountains will be a pain train from the off. I can’t imagine going through today & then hitting week 2 with *a* rest day

Just caught up with today's stage, good god almighty. But yeah, well deserved for Degenkolb. Phew.

bike racing!!!

Suggestion for some good rest-day listening: journalist/author William Fotheringham in convo with Cycling Weekly on the 20th anniversary of the Festina Affair. Good stuff!!

https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-93r7s-95058e

Just caught up with the highlights. The helmet filth stencils on rider’s stubbly heads are quite something.

classy ride from DVA

Solid stage all around. Alaphilippe in excelsis for sure.

Ok stage, alaphillipe was very much in character, nibbles comment about wind and team sky going very postal matched perfectly to the lack of action from fave group.

Commenter on twitter noted 8 y/o basso quote about when the lieutenants pull 420 watts for huge periods, no one can do anything meaningful in getting clear.

Sky, as ever, have enough money to have domestiques that would be leaders in lesser teams. Geraint Thomas is a case in point, I reckon he’s the equal of Porte at the least. The Yates brothers avoiding sky was a smart move, easy to get complacent pulling in 150k euros a year or whatever sky domesiques get.

Alaphillippe, damn son. Joyous effort, he is a delight to watch. And VanAvemaet! Way to hold onto the yellow, dude. Amazing effort. Love seeing BMC pulling it out any way they can in spite of everything.
Bummed about Uran timeloss :(

Crazy short stage has electrified the action some but even though Sky is chillin back 3 mins on last climb they have SIX riders there.

Nieve’s pedaling style at 6.5km left is fucking beautiful. Id enjoy seeing dumoulin get to him, but nieve looks SOOO nice.

nice finish

Just caught the end of that passing through Hong Kong. That was pretty amazing. Thomas may have more time on Froome than Froome could take back on the TT, but I’m also not sure Froome can attack Thomas unless he is chasing down someone close on GC or Thomas cracks.

Interesting times.

Thomas finally kicked his bilharzia. Good for him.

— Cyclocosm.com (@Cyclocosm) July 18, 2018

Ha when i saw thomas get to dumoulin so fast, i was like, man, nieve is about to get hit by a missile. I was surprised he paused with dumoulin a little.

i like how Wiggins has come back to haunt Froome in the form of Thomas.

the dominance of Sky is very very frustrating though, and bad for cycling. Before this Tour I thought Movistar could challenge them.. but alas. Not even close. Quintana will be happy if he finishes top 5 in this Tour, or so it seems.

Why is Sky so dominant (is it just money?), and why can't other teams compete? Isn't this just about having the right training schedule? Is there a stat on how much each team member gets paid on all teams?

mostly money

as ed said upthread, sky has domestiques that would be team leaders elsewhere but the pay at sky is good, as is (i hear) the benefits (like not medical bens but top quality training / nutrition / mechanics / etc)

I mean, former rainbow kwiatkowski is an _embarrassingly_ big talent as just one of your climbing leadouts. Such a complete racer. Not only winning worlds, but classics and monuments i mean hes outsprinted sagan at e3 and msr aside from dumping him into siena, which u could at least expect.

somehow had not unsubscribed from the lance thing and found myself listening to their stage 10 episode. he is a TOTAL fanny, and seems utterly unrepentant to boot ("I mean, according to wikipedia, I've never won a stage of the tour")

I was sure he'd at least displayed some contrition in the past but he's acting like he's been robbed on this thing, not like he was the one doing the robbing

the finish of la course was unsane

https://youtu.be/VkbyFDrF9kM

Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig post stage interview yesterday i think is really really sweet.

amazing. good on her

woman's cycling is so, so good and gets such a raw deal

i like how Wiggins has come back to haunt Froome in the form of Thomas

Heh. Just seen it (was out cycling all day). I reckon Thomas attacked so early to make sure he went before Froome did. Similarly, I think that's why he attacked again just before Froome bridged across to him and Dumoulin.

tomorrow will be fun

That it will. But yeah I'm getting kinda bored with all these other Sky riders, however great they are, being "Hi we're just this glomp at the front of the peloton who don't seem to have any fun and to hell with you if you don't want to see anything interesting happening. Thanks for the cash, fuck you." (Not that the rest of the field are genteel souls doing it for the charity and fun of it but jeez.)

ok i did listen to armstrong now, and the bit at 7 mins, when he talks about teams that can paceline an hc climb and DESTROY, and then mocks hincapie for his objections during the times it was postal doing them, is actually a-hole bro done in good form by armstrong, sorry all. hincapie ultimately peacing on a climbing paceline is classic to think of and i can only imagine bruyneel spitting in hincapie's dinner.

Not going to listen to that prick.

The Ludwig interview is lovely and yet again women’s racing shows to to be equal if not better in terms of entertainment, drama and quality that the men. Ironically the UCI’s sexism helps this along. In no other major endurance sport do women race over shorter distance than the men. So when we get what is effectively a shorter one day climbing race like nothing on the men’s calendar the women go all out to leave it all on the road (short recovery time after the giro Rosa notwithstanding). Alpe d’Huez could be a snooze fest today partly due to a the battle now being for the third step and partly because there will be tired legs.

The women deserve a lot more than the paltry crumbs they are currently getting.

As for the sky thing - the other advantage that they have is that they are grand tour focussed and pretty much Tour de France focussed. No other team gets that luxury and it becomes a self reinforcing loop. Sky barely show at the classics, the vuelta has been a consolation or development race and the giro was barely anything for them till this year. They have a programme that is all about he top step in July. I don’t think any mainland European team would get the opportunity to do that. Also, looking down the list of sponsors I can think of a name that comes remotely close to the size of sky apart from Movistar ( I guess the state sponsors, Astana, Bahrain and UAE). One does wonder what will happen to the Sky if the Comcast bid succeeds.

The women deserve a lot more than the paltry crumbs they are currently getting.

Rather. I saw some La Course highlights but I'm going to catch up with the full race soon.

i do think dumoulin will be right washed out tomorrow. as far as sky goes, number ones often appear unbeatable til they get beat. it's not likely here.

that pod cites brown's or nibble's claims (and their doubts on the claims) re budgets: "Team Sky spends the most, around $42 million. Bahrain-Merida counts on a budget in the 15 million range. Other teams have only 10 million." https://www.velonews.com/2018/07/tour-de-france/nibali-it-may-seem-boring-but-thats-modern-cycling_472562

"it aint where you focus is the way that focus, and that's what gets results!"

xp

lol "it's"

<3

Aw <3

this cover of kraftwerk got to me 2 weeks too late, but i still like how it goes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfVI2nVxo5k

and of course it's 3 years old, but it's a new cover to me.