This is SHOUTING-for-MODERATOR thread pt. III!! [derailed: go to thread IV]

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If you are referring to my refusal to answer your AIM's it's because I don't think I can talk to you in a non-private medium right now without ranting.

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 13 June 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

This and that, Nick.

Graham (graham), Friday, 13 June 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Non-private = non-public above. I need to go home.

RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 13 June 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Graham, you are once again behaving in appalling fashion. EVERY crime that you are accusing others of, you have committed to me. I've spent quite a lot of time and trouble talking to you, including times when you were desperately unhappy - and you have turned your back on me and walked away when someone younger and female and cute has walked in. I have sent you more than one friendly email, and received no replies at all. You have insulted me on the board here. I have taken all this because you are a troubled young man and I'd like to help, largely in gratitude for the huge contributions you have made for the running of this board. That's why I've bought you quite a few drinks at FAPs, and why I haven't moaned that you've never offered to buy me one. My best efforts don't mean that you should treat me as a friend or like me - you're perfectly free to think me an old tosser and want nothing to do with me - but if you treat people a hundred times worse than they treat you, your room for legitimate complaint is very small.

This row did not start from your being mistreated in any way. Alan tried out something he thought might work. He's a very clever and skilled man, and it did little if any harm as far as I could see, and there was certainly nothing wrong in his giving it a try - a lot of SQL performance issues can only really be settled by trying them out in real conditions. If there was really a slowdown in performance, why not just tell him so in an email and either of you could have switched back (or tried something new again, whatever). Why insult him publicly? The worst he did was make an entirely understandable mistake while trying to improve matters. You might be a better coder than Alan, I wouldn't know, but I have a job where I am currently basically in charge of and supervising a number of programmers and helping them write better code, including tuning their SQL and so on, and I would never treat any of these people the way you have behaved here. I'd expect real disciplinary trouble if any senior person behaved that way, and the fact that there is no such structure here doesn't make your actions any better.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

However many times a day Graham is getting his ass kicked at school, it isn't enough.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Graham, please, the world does not owe you a living. In the past you have abused or ignored many many people who offered you help and friendship, why in the name of God should they now kow tow to you?

Fuck this, I'm taking it to e-mail. I'm too angry.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't find thread IV.

So I guess I should have known better than to open a thread called "tongue splitting: C/D" if I didn't want to see a huge pic of, well, a split tongue. Maybe I'm stupid and oversensitive, but maybe there should be a warning? Eek ick ack uck.

Chris P (Chris P), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

SHOUTING FOR THE MODERATOR IV
I'll go and catagorize it under META.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, I've been thinking about this a lot and talking to some people, and I'd like to apologise to Alan for trying to help. And to Mark and Martin and Vicky and Anna and everyone else who's tried their best with me. I'm sorry.

Graham (graham), Friday, 4 July 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

[bumping to make sure appropriate people see it]

Graham (graham), Friday, 4 July 2003 12:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Graham - are you OK?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 4 July 2003 12:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Good for you, man. Also hope yr Ok.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 4 July 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank you for that, Graham. I happily accept, and I hope you are doing okay.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 4 July 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm fine, thank you.

Graham (graham), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

Glad to hear things are going better for you, Graham.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yep.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
hi moderators... i'm trying to put a picture in my profile and the url won't fit...... do i just need to get a better url or can this be fixed at this end? thanks :)

minna (minna), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link


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