Where is this from?
― Yerac, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
https://www.eater.com/2018/7/27/17577272/bad-tipping-in-america-restaurants
i haven't read the article as it's a subject that makes me too mad
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
(I've always hated stingy tippers and my partner is a server)
If someone is willing to give you quotes like that you should not let them remain anonymous.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link
Her friends suck too for going out with her and not covering her portion of the tip.
― Yerac, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
Complete ostracization is the only option.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
When James dines out, which he does a few times a week, he says he plays a rounding game with the bill at the end of the meal. “I will add a few dollars and round it to an even number, say a $36.87 meal being tipped $3.13 to make $40.00,” he explains. “This isn’t because I want to tip, it just gives me a little mental math game and I like even numbers.”
― visiting, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
yes that article will make you mad.
in a just society, james, your head would be on a fucking pike outside a restaurant as a warning to other patrons
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
I remember distinctly once while bartending, these douchebros came into my bar in blyn (at the time they were out of place) and the guy stared me right in the eye as he took the round of drinks back to his table without leaving a tip. Like, daring me to say something. This happened every single time he came up to the bar. It was early evening and I was tending by myself so there wasn't much I could do. At least it was just bottle beer.
― Yerac, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
used to have hangover anxiety in my early 20s. did I say something untoward or act like a jerk last night at the bar?
in my old age, now I seldom have that anxiety, but when I do it's usually me worrying that I fucked up the tip when paying the tab and some bartender is shaking her fist and vowing vengeance when she goes through the night's receipts
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
you are all wrong, sam is 100 otm but for the comment about them choosing that profession which is shitty
dont blame sam because youve accepted this nonsense system
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
It’s sort of a reverse prisoner’s dilemma where if everyone agrees at once to stop doing it then things would be better but if you just do it because you feel like it, you’re not exactly *galaxy brain* you’re just being a dick.
― devops mom (silby), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
ok she is also wrong re just feeling like it but hey theres no wrong way to be right
in fact i cant figure if my main view of ilx is that its found all the right ways to be wrong, all the wrongs ways of being right, or whether we're all just fellow travellers in a cruel world but some have better movie recommendations
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
Anyway the way to the end of tipping in the USA, already in progress, is through establishments going explicitly tipless and adding service charges. No way is having brave consumers stiff servers out of principle an act of solidarity.xp ilx is mostly where we take opinions we learned on Twitter and try them out on a small audience before going wide with it
― devops mom (silby), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
wait
why do *we* have a sandbox then
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
not all progress happens thru solidarity
(sorry hoos im sorry im sorry)
also is the service charge a stepping stone towards "the price is the price" because even listing service charge is a sad excuse of responsibility for running a business imo
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
i have my own methodology for assessing how much to tip
if you don't want to tip, you shouldn't have to, though
i hold nothing against those people
the current system of tipping in north america is not good though
― F# A# (∞), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
I mean I hate tipping too and wish the US would completely do away with it, but I don't believe in dicking over service people for me to make a point and which also benefits me that I get to keep my money. On my fb feed at least, it's all the white women in top tier US cities who are going bonkers about anyone "messing with their money" (talking about doing away with the tip system).
― Yerac, Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
The US is just basically impossible, because you can't even talk about changing most things when healthcare is so expensive and wrapped up in employers. And who cares when workers may no longer be entitled to their tips anyway.
― Yerac, Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
No. The way to end tipping is to vote in living wages for everyone, one jurisdiction at a time, or a national living wage law that doesn’t allow for local exemptions for tipped employees. The latter won’t hold up in court, though, because our federal judiciary branch is being packed with drooling idiot right-wing stooges, so let’s go with the former. Of course, machine politicians like my local fucking city council members will try and kill any living wage ballot initiatives that do pass, so we need to replace them as well. But deems is right, we choose to live in this system, just like front-of-house staff choose to do that job. Also anybody who thinks I get my opinions from Twitter will be punched in the neck and genitals.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
its better than getting them from me tbh
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
that was a sidemouth, lest anyone is waiting for me to break character at this stage
Tom, both at once, or one after another?
― devops mom (silby), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link
^^^ i was also wondering this
― mookieproof, Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
found a meme for uhttps://i.imgur.com/uUo85UN_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― mh, Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
I mean I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would appear to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. If you show me a piece of paper that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you're givin' me, I got two words for that: learn to fuckin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big fuckin' surprise.
― calstars, Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
creative, outside-the-box posting there, calstars
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
xpost ok which one of youse didn't put in?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
what a horrible and heartless post. fuck you calstars.
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
DC takes it next level by not recognizing crappy Tarantino dialogue
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:14 (six years ago) link
Cultureless swines
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:14 (six years ago) link
🐷 🔥 🥓
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 29 July 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
two words/learn to fuckin type is a great line tho
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
hahaha okay lol sorry calstars
tho i think posting that without any signposting that it's not an opinion you share does sorta invite a "fuck you" from the uninitiated
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 July 2018 03:13 (six years ago) link
Thats what dmac and i are here forTo initiate ilxors#irishgang
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 29 July 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link
You shoulda heard calstars on the Madonna thread.
― pplains, Sunday, 29 July 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link
lol
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 29 July 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
i love tipping now that i can afford it. usually i do 20% but with Uber or whatever i will leave a $5 tip on a $13 ride.
everyone should have to work a job at some point in their lives where their pay is directly related to appeasing the customers. there should be a draft for the service industry.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 July 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Oh god pplains I just nearly lost it at work
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Monday, 30 July 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-tipping-technology-20181130-story.html
Social norms around tipping are shifting in the U.S., thanks largely to the widespread adoption of technology that puts tipping front and center when paying for a coffee, a trip in a taxi or ride-share vehicle, or food delivery. The payment systems, which ask customers if they wish to leave a gratuity, are pushing people to tip more frequently and more generously for services they may have skimped on before.
― j., Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link
so all this time yeve been all this singing and dancing and fuckin stiffin throughout
― puppy bash (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 December 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link
I was just reading this Lifehacker piece on hotel etiquette, and they ask the woman who wrote the new book "Maid" (which is worth your time - full title "Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother's Will to Survive ") what a guest should tip, and she suggests $10 per person *per day*, which seems crazy.
https://lifehacker.com/this-is-the-proper-etiquette-for-leaving-a-hotel-room-1833411570
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link
maid of money
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:10 (five years ago) link
I am staying in a self-booked hotel for the very first time in 2 months and it never even occurred to me that I should tip, and I read that and was like "oh dear"
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:36 (five years ago) link
$10/day/person = $60 for my bf and I Friday to Monday????
I was reading that this morning too and thought it was crazy. But I have also read that Heads in Beds book that someone left at my place and people tip hotel staff like crazy at the beginning of a stay to get premium service.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I remember reading that but I've never seen it actually pan out. Here's a tip I learned from a friend, though: bake cookies or bring treats before a flight and gift them to the flight attendants on the way in, especially during the holidays. *That* sometimes pans out with upgrades and other comped stuff.
But $10 per person per day for a hotel? No way. I rarely make anything close to a mess, always reuse my towels, etc., throw out gross trash somewhere else. No way am I stripping beds, folding towels, vacuuming, dusting, fluffing pillows or whatever *and* tipping $10 a day per person in advance of the maid coming. The social contract is I pay for a room, I am not a slob, and I tip a couple of bucks a day.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
Oh, I sat next to a super clean cut guy with a Yale sweatshirt on that had every single attendant come up to say hi to him. I finally asked what was going on and he told me he always brings attendants Godiva chocolates to thank them for their work in the hopes of getting bumped up. It works when they have the space. ( I assume it also depends on the person).
― Yerac, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link
The heads in beds book thought really says it's the front desk that has all the power in getting free booze and food sent up if they don't have the ability to upgrade rooms and taking a bunch of stuff off the end bill, late check out, etc. But it's funny it was interesting when he was describing the whole bell hop culture.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link