Captain Marvel (2019), dir. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck

looks cool!

man, marvel's de-aging tech is getting really good huh

Rather.

I’m impressed how they transformed an actor in skrull makeup into that old lady

Chewie more or less confirmed

https://www.cnet.com/news/captain-marvel-cat-in-poster-is-really-an-alien/#ftag=COS-05-10aaa0j

lookin' good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHxvxdRnYc

Pssh, have fun with your children's movie which is for infants and toddlers (ie, you, who are a baby).

(I'm just mad because I forgot to watch this before my work-instituted YouTube blackout began.)

i am a screeching hog and i demand my slop

This little piggy needs his Marvel.

FYI for those interested, we will almost certainly get a leak tomorrow morning of the new Avengers title (I'm banking on Avengers: What The..?. myself) prior to the trailer release, as the tie-in prequel comic is also dropping tomorrow.

It must be so hard to act in these sorts of movies, with rubber suits on and dots on a soundstage in front of a screen, etc.. As an actor, you just have no idea until you see it all put together. You're saying the dumbest stuff and then going pew pew with your fingers and you just have to trust that when the CG magic and music and other stuff kicks in it'll look cool. You'd think that's a lot of pressure on both actor *and* director, but after decades of this they seem to have the rhythm down. Still, it's a miracle it works as often as it does.

this one is a documentary iirc, no cg required

xp I mean . . . Fay Wray didn't have a giant gorilla on set, you know?

all other films do have orchestras off-camera playing the score live though

I never cottoned to improv because a scene partner would pretend he was handing me something and I would just be all like, what are you even doing with your clearly-empty hands right now, you look so stupid.

more of a 'yes... and?' kinda guy huh

Obviously acting is playing pretend, but it's a relatively recent phenomenon to have characters defined by CG embellishments. I would love to see a Brechtian superhero movie, with superheroes literally going through the motions but with no effects, just pointing their fingers intensely at invisible enemies.

so basically Dogville with superpowers

xpost An entirely improvised movie with invisible sets and costumes and props could be funny too. (If it were funny.) Or exhausting.

Yeah, Dogville with superpowers.

Just long stretches of people reacting in awe to nothing, then defending themselves by wiggling their fingers with a serious look on their face.

captain marville

I would love to see a Brechtian superhero movie, with superheroes literally going through the motions but with no effects, just pointing their fingers intensely at invisible enemies.

Why not just film a bunch of kids playing superheroes in a schoolyard? Same effect.

they generally are not oscar-winning actors. I guess the obvious follow-up question is, would oscar-winning actors play pretend superhero in their backyards any better than kids?

Playing a superhero should automatically disqualify you from future Oscar nomination.

And if you won the Oscar first, they should take it away.

Oh my god, right? You're so right. Oh my god.

Just imagine, the prestige of the Academy Awards being tarnished so.

When I saw that (totally average) Ant-man sequel with Michelle Pfeiffer, then Annette Bening in this trailer, not to mention Jude Law, or youthified Sam Jackson, or Michael Douglas, it occurred to me that within a few years virtually every actor of note or otherwise will have been in a superhero movie. God knows, they might all end up in the same superhero movie at once. Someone should devise a predictive mathematical formula that will lead us to the superhero singularity.

They should do an epic green screen Oscars ceremony with space fights and lasers and stuff.

they already do that at the golden globes iirc

Every penny of that Hollywood Foreign Press money is on the screen.

i would legit be into watching some bonus disc of one of these movies that is the same full-length cut but with no cgi. backgrounds trailing off into green scene, some props real some props fake, half the cast in tennis balls, etc. it's sorta boring to watch that stuff as behind the scenes footage from some camera off to the side but that'd be cool. otherwise this discussion seems a little silly - like there's something sacrosanct abt the oscars and like there's something tawdry abt being in genre films. actors like acting, sometimes they like to get big paychecks for letting their hair down with some kids' stuff or some juicy silly villain part, same as when british shakespearean types show up in a muppet reimagining of a classic children's tale, or a christ-mas pantomime or w/e they do over there.

see: most of them don't seem to be enjoying themselves tbh: Comic Book Movie Gravitas Bringers, The Poll

and its re-do: most of them don't seem to be enjoying themselves tbh: Comic Book Movie Gravitas Bringers, the poll

it occurred to me that within a few years virtually every actor of note or otherwise will have been in a superhero movie

With only the grumpy aging gen-Xers as the holdouts (i.e. Ethan Hawke).

Anyone who's dedicated themselves to the craft of acting should hold themselves to a higher standard in their choice of roles imo. Ask any child and they will tell you: if you play pretend, you have to play pretend the right way or you're cheating, and they will tell mommy on you and they will hate you forever.

"I would assume that the film won't feature her turning into Binary"

based on the trailer, you assumed wrong, OL (can't you go outside for a break and watch on yr device?). What I do not think the film will be featuring is her retreating to another dimension with her rapist, who exited her own womb, placed there via the machinations of a manifestation of Kang, and grew to maturity in 24 hours, also they will not get to her alcoholism (never understood why Busiek thought that was a good idea).

With only the grumpy aging gen-Xers as the holdouts (i.e. Ethan Hawke).

Hawke does his best work in genre movies. I vastly prefer Hawke's horror and SF work to any superhero movie I've ever seen.

now i kinda want ethan hawke to play johnny blaze

I like him in genre stuff (esp shlock like Predestination) but saying it's better work than idk the Before movies or First Reformed is quite a challop

TBF I haven't seen First Reformed yet. I love Schrader, though, so I'm gonna get to it soon.

BRB, gonna start a First Reformed thread where we can gab about the cameos in the new Avengers trailer.

should be clear, I don't care if talented actors are in the superhero movies. they certainly make them better, as far as I can tell. and I definitely don't care about the Oscars, but generally speaking, talented actors win them. so it's kind of a tautology, but it seems pretty clear to me that a good actor would do a better job in a superhero movie than a bad actor. I suppose the change in recent years is that superhero movies are attracting good actors. I'm not sure they have much of a choice though. it's sort of like, say, Radiohead being extorted into playing Lollapalooza or some other giant festival. it's not like they can really say no.

.. what are you talking about?

green lantern vibes from this trailer

can't believe marvel studios blackmailed anthony hopkins into playing odin, wtf

"I suppose the change in recent years is that superhero movies are attracting good actors."

what do you mean by recent years? I would say the first example of "good actors" i.e. respectable by hollywood standards, in superhero genre is Jack Nicholson & Kim Basinger in 1989. Or is it that the Bat films of the 90s are an exception, surrounded by the likes of Spawn, etc?

I'd argue that the lure is an increase in both quality and pay. Like taking a role in a superhero flick probably isn't as much like begrudging busywork for a respectable actor as it was a decade and a half ago.

i hear the craft services table on these movies is fuckin lit

McRibs and Shamrock Shakes, year round.

Man, if that was on the table every day I would totally break into this movie star racket.

I'd have to think about it, but it seems (at least from memory) that in the (not too distant) past, "good" Hollywood actors were enlisted not for being good actors but almost as sort of stunt casting, like the hammy Hackman in Superman or a hammy Nicholson in Batman or a barely-there Brando in Superman. They weren't hired for their gravitas or whatever. In recent years, though, you've got respectable actors more or less literally going from winning an Oscar one year to starring in a superhero movie the next, or older movie stars like Douglas, or Pfeiffer, or Bening getting superhero movie roles that don't seem like easy paychecks or embarrassing slumming. They're being hired for their name, yeah, but also for their talents, not just as a novelty. So yeah, more or less what OL said.

I don't think it's even more or less literally at this point. Pretty sure Captain Marvel was the first project Larson nabbed after winning her Oscar.

And Cumberbatch went Oscar to Dr. Strange, right?