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That's not really a computer question, is it Sarah? I'd say go with one of those cute foldy things amazon sends CDs in.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

sarah, you know what I'm going to say to you, gat a mac.

However if you must be contrary and buy a pc, get a tower, you've got space for extra drives if you need them. You ought to be able to put a pc together from parts.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stop saying that Ed. Or I will hex 10.3. And then you'll be sorry. Yes.

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

A.3?

Anyway, he's just a heathen with a heretical email address.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am trying to rip CDs to MP3s and everything I try is either WAY too slow (it takes all day to rip an album) or it fails on the first track and just packs in or it does it nice and fast but there are horrible glitchy noises all the way through even though i ask it to rip on the best quality setting. Any suggestions?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sorry I'm Steve Jobs' John the Baptist/bitch.

Mac OS X all the benefits of Unix with a useable interface, good design and free entry into a club off insufferable slobs.

Dog latin, it sounds like something is up with your pc. Give us some specifications. That freerip that someone recommended somewhere up there seems pretty quick although it is adware and you should find version 1 (google found it just like that) as version 2 installs spyware.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 17 April 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's the insufferable snob bit that grates

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 17 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

FreeBSD doesn't run on very many machines - their goal is high performance and good hardware support for the x86 platform. They support a few others, but not as many as the other BSDs. NetBSD runs on the most platforms of any OS, and even that doesn't support the first RS/6000s (POWER (not PowerPC), and microchannel bus). No free OS choices for sun4d arch either (ss1000, ss2000).

Dave Fischer, Thursday, 17 April 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

any help with this would be appreciated:

i've messed up the My Music shell folder. i tried to move it to another partition, but just dragged it over there, not using the right click "move here" thing - (i'm not sure whether things would have been ok had i done that or not) all the files are intact, it's just that i've lost the link to the folder in the start menu. i've tried doing it manually in the registry, but the path i enter always disappears. maybe there's another key i should be editing (i'm mainly looking at HKCU\software\microsoft\windows\current version\explorer\shell folders)

i've moved it back to C:\ with no luck. it takes about 45 mins to move the folder, so i can't practically just drag it all over the place to see what happens. i guess i should move the files out and then dink around with the folder.

anyways, ideas appreciated

ron (ron), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, got it, nevermind - just kept adding keys til it worked

ron (ron), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Debian linux question.

I've just installed Debian linux on virtual PC so I can run pySLSK. Its all installed find

I've type in xinit it start up Xwindows. It gives the error:

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Its found the emulated graphics card fine but gives that error.

any ideas?

Ed (dali), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd also like to know how to set it up so I can telnet/ssh in and start up x programmes using x11. ( I can already telnet/ssh in I just can't get things to display on x11 just need to know how to set the display)

Ed (dali), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK I think I need to setup sshd aswell.

Ed (dali), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

bump

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 07:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, here's my dumbest one yet, Ed. When I plug my PowerBook into the mains, it keeps giving off little electric shocks. Can I stop this?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it when you join the power cable to the transformer, if so do the joining before you plug the plug in. Tell me more about these shocks. (keep this thread up till caitlin looks in).

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's usually when my Mac is already on, and running low - I just plug the cord into the back and then plug in. There's a magnetic charge coming off of the area either side of the trackpad, and I get shocks coming off of this and the edge of the computer. I'll try plugging in with it switched off.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

You should get that looked at. That doesn't sound good. It sounds like something is shorting to the case. That's not a good thing.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

i fixed sshd.

(This is now the thread where Ed updates about his adventures trying to get Debianlinux and pySOulseek working)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ed, the X error on your virtual PC / Debian setup sounds like you don't have X configured properly. "No screens found" means that it doesn't have any monitors configured, I think.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

How do I configure that? When I try to start X it reconises the 'graphics card' but then gives the error I mentioned above.

Also is there a util that allows me to tell what ip address a DHCP server has assigned Debian?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

NordicSkillz, are you on a PowerBook G4? Mine had that problem. I think they fixed it in later models, cos when mine had the motherboard replaced it went away. The only other thing to do is get one of the new earthed power supplies that comes with new PowerBooks. Other than that, it's a normal design flaw.

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

There are programs called 'xf86config' and 'xf86cfg' that you can use to generate an X configuration file, but they're both pretty awful to use. The latter, in particular, can be handy for producing an example configuration file that you can then fiddle with manually.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

HELP I've just switched to WinXP and I hate how, in Explorer, if you have several windows/apps open, it stacks them under a single tab on the taskbar. I'd rather they all be flayed out horizontally, no matter how small, so I could open them with one click (rather than clicking on the stacked/meny tab and selecting from there). Thanks for any help.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 23 April 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have XP but don't have that problem (I do use IE), and can't even figure out how to create it. However, in the taskbar properties there's an option for "Group similar taskbar buttons". Deselecting that might help? Otherwise, playing with options in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced might stumble onto the solution.

I just switched to XP and have a stupid system tray problem. I thought I'd posted it on this thread but I don't see it, so if I'm being repetitive, forgive me. I don't have a connection icon in my system tray when I'm connected to the internet. I've gone to Network Connections, right clicked on my connection for properties, and selected "show icon in notification area when connected". An icon then appears. I also have it set to "always show" on my system tray but the icon disappears right after I log off, and then deselects itself in Network connections when I dial up again. It seems like it may be a prob with XP and my ISP software...annoying.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 14:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

aaron - right click on the taskbar, select 'properties'

select the 'taskbar' tab if it's not already

uncheck "group similar taskbar buttons"

ron (ron), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

ah shit sorry julia

ron (ron), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

julia - it sounds like you are using a dialup connection?? when i was on dialup, the way my network icon behaved led me to believe that it sees every possible connected speed as another distinct icon. i mean - if it connects once at 50.2 kbs and you tell it to always show that icon (it still won't when it's disconnected) - then if next time it connects at 49kbs it puts it as yet another icon... etc.

if the reason you want to always have the icon is so you have something to click on to connect/disconnect, then i suggest putting a network icon in your quicklaunch. also, if you are on a broadband connection, there is a way to get an icon which will connect with one click, rather than popping up the "dial" dialog box. right click the start menu - properties, hit customize button. advanced tab. in the scroll down menu, look for network connections - select "display as connect to menu". the dialup icons in this menu will still bring up a "dial" box, but the broadband connections will just connect automatically when you click them, and you can right click --> disconnect them. so you can copy this shortcut to your desktop or quicklaunch. you could remove the menu from the start menu after you copied that shortcut, if you don't want it.

enough blabbering out of me ;-)

ron (ron), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have dialup, unfortunately. Disconnecting is easy enough, but I like to have the system tray icon so that i can easily monitor my connection if needed.

Thanks for the explanation of the taskbar "always show" not showing...that makes sense in a microsoft-being-ridiculous kinda way.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks, caitlin. Is there a simple way of telling what a DHCP server has set and IP address to on debian.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

NordicSkillz, are you on a PowerBook G4? Mine had that problem. I think they fixed it in later models, cos when mine had the motherboard replaced it went away. The only other thing to do is get one of the new earthed power supplies that comes with new PowerBooks. Other than that, it's a normal design flaw.

Yes Graham, it is a G4. Thanks for the advice, I almost missed it. :)

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Julia and Ron, thanks!! I can't believe that had eluded me for so long.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 23 April 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

> Is there a simple way of telling what a DHCP server has set and IP address to on debian.

i'm tempted to say ipconfig but that's a dos command. i'm sure there's something very similar for linux. ifconfig perhaps? can't check without rebooting...

oh, btw, /var/log/XFree86.0.log (or something similar, slocate is your friend here) has lots of details about xfree86 startup problems. have spent ages recently pondering this whilst trying to get tvout to work

andy

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 22:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

On the BSDs, dhcp leaves tracks in /var/log/daemon.

Dave Fischer, Thursday, 24 April 2003 01:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I debian, really the best x86 ix. I chose it becasue I like the package management tools and it was the first one I thought of, but is there one that's simpler to configure? I kind of want to persevere because they have a good PPC version.

How do I configure x access from outside, to get ssh -X working. ssh works now, but I can't start any x apps.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 24 April 2003 05:50 (twenty-one years ago) link


Dumb web Q.: Why is it that the background music on my page only loads in IE, and never in Netscape or Safari? Could there be a simple explanation for this? Can't work it out.

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Thursday, 24 April 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Check the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the machine you're logging in to. It should have a line that says "X11Forwarding yes" for X tunnelling to be enabled.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gatinha, check your pages against the W3C Complaince checker. What did you build it in some apps produce more compliant code than others. The validator should point out your errors. There are also tables of standardised tags and attributes which should work with any browser that claims compliance with W3C.

thanks, caitlin.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 24 April 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey julia i had a thought about your tray icon situation. i use the sygate personal firewall, and it has it's own network monitoring icon. so i leave the windows network icon hidden at all times and just use the firewall one. the firewall remains running even when the network connection is broken, so the icon's always there. obv you can't use the firewall icon to connect/disconnect, but i use the quicklaunch for that. anyways, just an idea

ron (ron), Friday, 25 April 2003 06:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haven't seen if that works because my uni won't let me register anothe MAC address with them, even though the debian machine resides behind an already registered MAC address. So I can't get the virtual machine onto the network, which stops me from ssh ing in. I'll have to wait to get it onto the home network to try it out.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK I've thought of a work round. I've set the mac up as a NAT gateway with DHCP. How do I tell debian to look for the DHCP server at a specific IP adedress?

thanks for all this nannying.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Slightly different kind of question. My PC is on its last legs; I've already backed up anything of any worth on the machine, and now I just want a new one so I can reformat this pile of junk and, oh, use it to run my washing machine or something.

So I've been looking online at sites where you can choose the spec for your own computer, building it as you go. It seems that I could get a decent machine for £600 odd, rather than the £900-1000 it would cost bought as a regular package. First of all, a) is this a good idea and b) can anyone recommend reliable and cheap sites for building a computer?

(NB I have no desire or ability to literally build it myself - I just want a bespoke build that someone else then puts together for me)

Thanks!

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK scratch that I forgot to reboot the linux box. However having logged in over ssh -X. I still can't launch X programmes though. I get erros like these:

dali@edvpcdeb:~$ xterm &
[1] 266
xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
dali@edvpcdeb:~$ xcalc &
[2] 267
[1] Exit 1 xterm
dali@edvpcdeb:~$ Error: Can't open display:

[2]+ Exit 1 xcalc
dali@edvpcdeb:~$ gimp &
[1] 268
dali@edvpcdeb:~$
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

[1]+ Exit 1 gimp
dali@edvpcdeb:~$

thanks in advance

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Building it yourself is not that hard but I can appreciate that you might not have the time and inclination to do so but there are plenty of sites out there that you can google to look at.

See also Morgan computers who sell dead stock and seconds PC. thir shop is on new oxford st but you can google up their website as well.

in the apple world the apple store do refurb computers on wednesday mornings which can be good deals. Shaye also do refurb macs.

As for build to order the best deals are often from local computer stores but try and get a recommendations as I knew a fat bastard cowboy cunt who set one of these places up.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Those sort of error messages usually mean that the ssh client on your local machine can't connect to an X server, as far as I know. I take it you've got X set up on the machine you're connecting from; are you sure X is running before you start ssh?

(I'm assuming from what you've said in the past that your ssh client is on an OS X machine that's got X11 installed on it; I've seen those sorts of errors when trying ssh on an OS X machine without X11)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 25 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have OS-X and a powerbook.. Can I get virtual-PC and run all those fancy games they got on the PC but dont for the Mac?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sshing from xterm in Apple X11. Do I have to change something in the ssh config file on the mac box? I've got allow connections etc turned on on X11.

this is what my ssh_config looks like on the apple box, I just uncomented the forwardX11 value

# Host *
# ForwardAgent no
ForwardX11 yes
# RhostsAuthentication no
# RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# RSAAuthentication yes
# PasswordAuthentication yes
# BatchMode no
# CheckHostIP yes
# StrictHostKeyChecking ask
# IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity
# IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
# IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
# Port 22
# Protocol 2,1
# Cipher 3des
# Ciphers aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes$
# EscapeChar ~

I've perused the man page but I'm not sure quite what I ought to change.

For completeness I'll include the sshd_config from the debian machine:

# Package generated configuration file
# See the sshd(8) manpage for defails

# What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
Port 22
# Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to
#ListenAddress ::
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
Protocol 2
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
#Privilege Separation is turned on for security
UsePrivilegeSeparation yes

# ...but breaks Pam auth via kbdint, so we have to turn it off
# Use PAM authentication via keyboard-interactive so PAM modules can
# properly interface with the user (off due to PrivSep)
PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt no
# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
KeyRegenerationInterval 3600
ServerKeyBits 768

# Logging
SyslogFacility AUTH
LogLevel INFO

# Authentication:
LoginGraceTime 600
PermitRootLogin yes
StrictModes yes

RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
#AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys

# rhosts authentication should not be used
RhostsAuthentication no
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
IgnoreRhosts yes
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts
RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
HostbasedAuthentication no
# Uncomment if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for RhostsRSAAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes

# To enable empty passwords, change to yes (NOT RECOMMENDED)
PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Uncomment to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
PasswordAuthentication yes


# To change Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#AFSTokenPassing no
#KerberosTicketCleanup no
# Kerberos TGT Passing does only work with the AFS kaserver
#KerberosTgtPassing yes

X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10
PrintMotd no
#PrintLastLog no
KeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no
AllowTcpForwarding yes

#MaxStartups 10:30:60
#Banner /etc/issue.net
#ReverseMappingCheck yes

Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server

Caitlin you are such an absolute star for guiding me through this.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

phil, you can but not some of the more graphics intensive ones. The emulated graphis card is not great and the machine within a machine is quite system hungry.

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

so what about counterstrike or something? i see all these kids playing it in the internet hut, and it looks sort of fun

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

get yourself a copy and try. I don't really game so I don't know?

Ed (dali), Friday, 25 April 2003 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link


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