Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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i think that's generally, right, although i must admit i skipped past all the text and went straight for the desert penis pics

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 November 2018 02:39 (six years ago)

god that shit is horrifying, reminds me of the artwork for Chris Cunningham's Rubber Johnny

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 26 November 2018 03:12 (six years ago)

it's extremely uncanny. a machine's vision of pornography, which doesn't even render actual bodies.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 26 November 2018 03:21 (six years ago)

three months pass...

this is from someone with a dog in the race, and the numbers are shaky, but the basic point seems sound to me: no autonomous vehicles any time soon, except in very simple situations (or, if the super rich are able to swing it, unless we establish legal no go zones for non-autonomous vehicles)

https://medium.com/may-mobility/the-moores-law-for-self-driving-vehicles-b78b8861e184

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 18:34 (six years ago)

That's a nice combination of simplified explanation and corporate self-promotion. I bet it is based on a presentation that CEO has given to dozens of VCs and banks.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 March 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

I don't doubt any of it, but it does seem like a pretty convenient way for him to say essentially "It's okay that my company's cars are bad at autonomous driving (and aren't getting better fast enough), because everyone else's are too!"

Dan I., Friday, 1 March 2019 19:44 (six years ago)

yes, stipulated in my post (and his!). doesn't change the fact that he's right: it will be many decades before self driving cars actually work in the way typically claimed in the human environment we live in today.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:07 (six years ago)

I realize that, if this article were attempting to be rigorous, it wouldn't derive a 'Moore's Law for Autonomous Vehicles' by citing two data points for autonomous cars and one data point for human-driven cars and graphing them. It's miles from any kind of rigor. But what it suggests is more convincing to me than the claims that such fully autonomous vehicles will be arriving much sooner.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:20 (six years ago)

Between human performance (10⁸ miles per fatality) and the best-reported self-driving car performance (10⁴ miles per disengagement) is a gap of 10,000x. Put another way, self-driving cars are 0.01% as good as humans.

AYFKM

This ... only works if every disengagement would have resulted in a fatality.

I mean this is all messy stuff, I'm not saying his time estimates on general self-driving are wrong. But if Waymo removed its safety drivers early I think we'd see a lot more stuck vehicles than fatalities.

lukas, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:55 (six years ago)

trump otm

In conversations on Air Force One and in the White House, Trump has acted out scenes of self-driving cars veering out of control and crashing into walls. https://t.co/RMUC3kcXKR

— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) March 17, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 March 2019 17:36 (six years ago)

lukas mentioned it above, but that medium article makes an incredibly disingenuous, apples-to-abstract-photography argument.

Between human performance (10⁸ miles per fatality) and the best-reported self-driving car performance (10⁴ miles per disengagement) is a gap of 10,000x. Put another way, self-driving cars are 0.01% as good as humans.

this is the graph that accompanies to quote:

https://i.imgur.com/POKRZWK.png

if we're asking self-driving cars to encounter a "disengagement" ("when the technology fails and a safety driver must take over") as often as a human being in a car has a fatality, then yes, it's going to be a while. but i'd argue that a better comparison would be human accidents to self-driving accidents. in the U.S., drivers have accidents roughly every 165,000 (a little over 10 to the 5th power). it's still an unfair comparison to compare human accidents to self-driving "disengagements", but even doing that makes things look quite a bit different:

https://imgur.com/IJ5wuxA

and just for fun, maybe it would be useful to compare self-driving "disengagements" to "human fuck ups". how often have you been in a car when the driver, perhaps yourself, did something catastrophically dumb but you escaped physical harm? personally, i have done so hundreds of times. i have had 1 accident in my life, and it was a low speed one and it was 99% the fault of a very confused elderly woman in a parking lot. anyway, i think i can conservatively estimate that at minimum, human drivers "fuck up" but escape physical harm 10 times more often than they have accidents. so that's at least an order of magnitude less frequent than accidents, or 10 to the 4th:

https://i.imgur.com/07LZsJo.jpg

so if the premise of the medium author's argument is right, self-driving cars should start having "disengagements" less frequently than human fuck-ups sometime a few years ago. i have no idea if that's true, but i think more than anything it suggests the whole argument is off

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 00:19 (six years ago)

Another point to consider is that if a significant fraction of cars were driving autonomously, the driving AIs might well communicate to each other, or with Google maps or w/e, so that driving speeds and routes might be chosen so as to avoid risky situations altogether.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:31 (six years ago)

I hate AI. Kill it.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:34 (six years ago)

the driving AIs might well communicate to each other, or with Google maps or w/e, so that driving speeds and routes might be chosen so as to avoid risky situations altogether

Can you imagine how much chaos could be created by hacking into that network?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:35 (six years ago)

Doesn’t mean they won’t make it

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:43 (six years ago)

Or fail to protect it adequately.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 01:47 (six years ago)

I don’t know what to tell you if you think self driving cars coordinating is a good idea in the present security environment.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:05 (six years ago)

Indeed, but done right it could seed traffic with a kind of "swarm intelligence" so that autonomous vehicles were acting in ways which improved overall flow. It sounds a little creepy, but I have no problems with traffic lights being managed to do the same thing, or routers managing the network traffic I use.
The collabortion (decided to let the typo stand) between Boeing and the FAA doesn't fill me with confidence though.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:06 (six years ago)

remember the robot bees yall

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:07 (six years ago)

remember _KILLER_ bees yall, like when they were gonna be something that killed everyone

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:27 (six years ago)

not everyone. only the poor sods who lived far enough south to allow Africanized bees to survive the winter.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 03:47 (six years ago)

so are they still a problem? i dont recall hearing a word about killer bees for at least a decade.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:06 (six years ago)

If the NY Post no longer pays attention to them, then I guess they've proved to be a manageable problem.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:09 (six years ago)

the killer bees murdered all the other bees and then went into hiding

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:12 (six years ago)

Background: Last night, Google Maps' pricy contract with Zenrin, the high resolution map service in Japan, ended.

Google's cost savings solution was to implement their AI based on user behavior to build their new maps (what could possibly go wrong?):

https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/b44wwt/so_many_people_were_cutting_across_the_konbini/

mountain shadows become lakes:

Googleマップが劣化したらしいと聞いて、近所の地図見たら、山影が湖になってたw pic.twitter.com/B237RUOpPA

— りん (@rin_kawakoubou) March 22, 2019

roads travel through/into buildings:

線路上や路上に建物あったり… pic.twitter.com/c2dqP1065D

— りん (@rin_kawakoubou) March 22, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

somewhat tangentially related: https://onezero.medium.com/how-googles-bad-data-wiped-a-neighborhood-off-the-map-80c4c13f1c2b

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:38 (six years ago)

Apple maps and NAVITIME have have been better in japan for some time now, this definitely explains a few things.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:29 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

NLP's moving so fast that benchmarking tasks introduced only a year ago are having to be replaced because they're running out of headroom: https://med✧✧✧.c✧✧✧@w✧✧✧.a✧✧✧.✧/introducing-superglue-a-new-hope-against-muppetkind-2779fd9dcdd5

Dan I., Friday, 19 April 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

well, I've run out of shits to give about getting this link to post correctly

Dan I., Friday, 19 April 2019 14:47 (six years ago)

looks like we won't be running out of headroom here anytime soon

difficult listening hour, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:48 (six years ago)

Oh, I've got tons of empty space up there

Dan I., Friday, 19 April 2019 14:50 (six years ago)

thanks

Dan I., Friday, 19 April 2019 14:56 (six years ago)

eh if NLP was solved then you'd notice in real life

seandalai, Friday, 19 April 2019 17:03 (six years ago)

good article
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/15/the-age-of-robot-farmers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 April 2019 17:16 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

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imago, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:43 (six years ago)

missed this, from march:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/endel-alogrithm-major-label-deal

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 15:33 (six years ago)

Over the last few years, the rise of AI in music technology has been heralded as a portent of the crack of doom. With Spotify determining what we listen to based on algorithms and playlist placement guiding the creative process for artists, the concern is tech will render true musicianship obsolete. Well, if that’s the case, then welcome to the end times, because an algorithm just signed a major label distribution contract.

Berlin-based Endel today announced that it had become the first algorithm to strike a deal with a major label, in this case Warner Music Group. The product uses various inputs — weather, heart rate, time of day, and your body’s circadian rhythms — to craft soundscapes out of stems with the intention of boosting your mood, enhance focus, and encourage relaxation or sleep. While the Endel app is currently available for iOS and Android, as well as an Alexa skill, the AI is expected to release 20 albums before the end of the year, with five already available on streaming services.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

for your convenience, here are two optimistic and pessimistic takes that you can feed into your personality algorithm

if your moods are so basic that a playlist of stock ambient synths can quantify and appease them, then I guess go to town

— Holly Herndon (@hollyherndon) March 22, 2019


this is a warning shot though, that we are about to be inundated with automated and procedurally generated music systems, producing good enough music to appease most people for most situations

— Holly Herndon (@hollyherndon) March 22, 2019

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 15:36 (six years ago)

meanwhile, Endel has a touch over 1000 monthly listeners on spotify

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 15:37 (six years ago)

but every one of those listeners went out and wrote their own algorithm

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 May 2019 20:49 (six years ago)

this seems like the optimistic take to me

automated systems are ultimately only threatening to musicians who have the emotional range of a bot tho

— Holly Herndon (@hollyherndon) March 22, 2019

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 12 May 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

(I'm not saying it's wrong)

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 12 May 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

but shouldn't their optimism, or lack thereof, be founded on the emotional range of their listeners, not just on their ability to speak to that?

j., Sunday, 12 May 2019 22:17 (six years ago)

She seems to assume that if there are humans capable of exceeding machines in emotional expression, there will be listeners capable of discerning that. Seems fair.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 12 May 2019 23:39 (six years ago)

Ok I'm getting a bit obsessed with https://talktotransformer.com/, where you type/paste a piece of text and a huge NN continues the text for a bit, using random draws from its internal learned language model. The results range from nonsensical to dreamlike to funny to downright spooky. I think I've got the best results when seeding it with a shortish incomplete sentence with some (not necessarily sensible) specificity (the boldface parts below are the parts I've entered, the rest is the AI completion):

The plot of the film "There Will Be Blood" involves a man who wants to die but will never die. He is a "troll." He watches "Fright Night" and ends up in New Zealand's Taranaki Forest. He sees a deer, sees it again and sees it again. Finally, he can see the deer's head, and, after it shoots it's shot out of a tree, his hand is shot off, and he gets up with a rope around his neck. The film ends with the hero, having been shot by himself, walking off into the world and thinking: "There are days I really wish that I could leave this place and go wherever I please. I would go home and watch some of 'The Simpsons,' and maybe eat some cookies. I'd go for a beer and read some books. But I'm afraid I can't. If I went away, I could always come back."

It is interesting to compare to a "real" scenario such as this one where a person who did not "act out" would actually die of "fear."

A popular pastime in most Portuguese cities is ibrícao. A small wooden square with a wooden pole is attached to both sides by wooden posts. By placing the posts over the poles and setting them in place the horse will gallop around for hours, sometimes for weeks."
A "solar corvete", (turtle wheel), is not as common as it used to be. In rural areas, this is usually a small box with a corvette attached to the end where the person sits. It has a rope attached to the center to turn a wheel on a rope. It's a way of keeping the corvette from sliding down into a lake or pool while running.

A similar method is seen in the town of Avelário, near Lisbon (which, in Portugal, has a lake). As the sun rises, a young person, wearing only boxer shorts, goes swimming (or swimming-shopping), with a friend. At night he runs around to the town with the person sitting beside him. He would place a wooden cross on the ground for the person to reach on their next swimming session.

On their next practice session the person might sit under the cross while the coach runs along the front


The most legendary meme of 1538 was the following poem, which is from the poem collection of the medieval German scholar Johannes Gärtner:

Eintrag au und sein dessen Hoebe, sich auch häufig, das es kurzelzährig und das mit dem Erwachsen beim eining ötzere. Die Hoebe ist die Einzelungen gab einen den Hoeb, daß in dass diesis beim Hoebe.

It is often translated as "Hoebe is a ghost," but the phrase in English is sometimes translated more literally: It is a beautiful ghost, you see.

The poem is a commentary on a verse in the Gospel of Matthew. According to the translator, Matthew refers to the Hoebe as a ghost and how beautiful, intelligent, and beautiful she is. We now know that the text in a German translation did in fact refer to the human Hoebe as a ghost. In 1538, English language sources often use the English term by substituting in modern English for one of the "old" German words.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 25 May 2019 22:44 (six years ago)

in tears here

The most beautiful word in the French language is not only the word for flowers, but also the word for a human hand to wipe the perspiration off the lips and hands of those who come near them. That word is boulevards.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:19 (six years ago)

The most misunderstood rule of baseball involves the "two-run" rule. The rule states that if two runners get two outs and the score is tied, both teams should settle for the inning's first hit if they can take two outs at the same time and then a double to score. While there seems to be less play in baseball these days, teams still usually have to settle for two outs if there's even a single hit. Here are some other baseball rules you need to know:

1. There is an exception to the two-run rule in cases of double plays. For example, if a single hits a double (or is hit by one of the runners), the runner with the base on foul is declared out. This allows a team to come back to within striking distance or to advance to the sixth inning and the extra inning for extra relief, which can cost a team another chance to win. In that case, a team is still allowed a double play, meaning both runs would carry only two hits.

Source: MLB

ok I'll stop now, as there is literally an infinite supply of these.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:26 (six years ago)

i do like this new baseball rule idea

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:35 (six years ago)


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