Also, whatever dialect Graham Chapman is using in the "flying sheep" sketch never fails to make me laugh.
Yes! "Notice they do not so much fly, as ploomet."
― Drunk Charles Nelson Reily violating Paul Lynn at a toga party (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
Aussie Netflix has fawlty towers and yes minister, there’s probably more but I can’t say I’ve loooked too hard.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
There's a reason why Netflix isn't re-running the Goodies
There's plenty of racism in The Goodies and at least one incidence of blackface (specifically Tim Brooke-Taylor in blackface as an African-American boxer in 'Kung-Fu Capers'). The BBC did a 'Goodies Night' a few years ago and IIRC they couldn't show an entire episode. Instead they kept showing clips and then cutting back to Tim/Grahame/Bill in a studio in front of a live audience.
― Chequers Plays Pop (snoball), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
A kind of generic West Country yokel accent. Or East Anglian.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
ha ha, searching for Yes, Minister on US Netflix brings up:
Fawlty TowersThe IT CrowdWorld War II In Colourthe US remake of House Of CardsBodyguardThe Good PlaceDeath In ParadiseFriends Life Of BrianThe Roosevelts: An Intimate Historyand Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
My first exposure to Python was via a CBBC programme called 'Boxpops' which also featured this sketch from NTNOCN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asUyK6JWt9U
Which, while somewhat true, isn't half calling the kettle black in NTNOCN's case. And re-watching it on YouTube a year or so ago, it's probably aged much worse…
― carson dial, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
i certainly think SCTV w/ the peak cast was better than 50/50
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
is SCTV streaming anywhere?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
It is strange how poorly the UK looks back on the Goodies - it was very very popular in Australia in the 80s as a kids show! Apparently even the cast members were a bit taken aback.
I dont recall weather what we saw was edited much, but probably not given how shithouse Australians tend to be about caring about racism/sexism in media in the first place ("its just a jooooke cant you take a joke" etc)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
haha never saw that NTNOCN skit. Funny.
― akm, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link
AFAIK the Goodies never ran in the US, at least not with any regularity; maybe a few PBS stations picked it up in the 80's. I've never seen it and only knew about it from books on Python.
― akm, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
It is strange how poorly the UK looks back on the Goodies - it was very very popular in Australia in the 80s as a kids show!
It was generally considered a bit of kids show in the UK tbh.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
it was a kids show
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
it was on at 7, even benny hill was on at 8
Many episodes parodied current events, such as an episode where the entire black population of South Africa emigrates to Great Britain to escape apartheid. As this means that the white South Africans no longer have anyone to exploit and oppress, they introduce a new system called "apart-height", where short people (Bill and a number of jockeys) are discriminated against.
Huh.
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link
(xp) I think Bill Oddie got annoyed at the idea that it was seen as a kids show but then he's annoyed at everything.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
it was generally on at 5-6pm in Australia, and quite frequently cut. They did a stage tour in 2005 which was largely them sitting down, talking about the episodes that had been censored, and then showing the censored bits on a big screen.
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
lol
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
i liked the one where they knew the end of the world was about to happen bcz the pages in graeme's diary were blank after a certain date, aged 11 i thought this tremendous stuff
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
I remember one episode that was a parody of Clockwork Orange - not exactly a kids' film!
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
i think the parody involved them dressing up then falling down
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link
IIRC, Cleese appears in The Goodies as a genie emerging from a can, shouts "Kids' programme!" and disappears.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
everything the goodies have done since the goodies is better than anything john cleese did EVEN IN MONTY PYTHON there i said it
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
Some of them were definitely broadcast later than 7, I wasn't allowed to stay up for them. Altho that was probably mainly on the grounds that my dad "wasn't watching that rubbish".
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link
yr dad otm tho i loved em (silly men falling down was my jam)
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
Yeah I had the books and watched the TV show whenever the opportunity presented. The books were *definitely* not kids material despite the fact that yeah it's just gussied up slapstick mostly
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
I still fondly remember the Bronson The Wonder Man and "many moods of Charles Bronson" jokes from the Goodies' Disaster Movie book in the school library, despite having not seen Death Wish at age 8, nor any subsequent age
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link
Is that a dagger I see before me? No, it's Trufo the wonder dog!
...sorry I seem to have derailed a Python thread into a Goodies discussion haha.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link
monty python and the holy grail" is one of the most historically accurate movies about the medieval era
Unlike almost every other film, MP films really got onscreen filth right. Like, literally, the cast often looks like it'd been rolling around in the dirt and mud before shooting a scene.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
holy grail is probably their finest achievement in so many ways -- a consistently funny script, fine performances, just enough animation -- that i wish i hadn't burned out on it so long ago
still laugh whenever i think of "what, the curtains?"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link
Yeah. Probably not an uncommon story, but The Holy Grail deeply resonated with me and my nerd (USA) friends in middle school in the mid 90s. Like actually revelatory, shaped our senses of humor and inspired us to write comedy bits that we passed back and forth. It was an obsession for a good year or two.We delved deeper into all the other Python stuff but it was mostly never on the same level in our minds. Not entirely sure of the alchemy, that one wrecked us scene to scene but the other movies and show mostly fell flat.
― circa1916, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link
Is this where I can reveal that I changed all my AOL sound effects to Holy Grail .wavs
― circa1916, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link
It’s SO much funnier than ‘.. Brian’ that it’s not even a debate anymore.
― piscesx, Thursday, 29 November 2018 05:07 (five years ago) link
incorrect
like incorrect on both counts but so incorrect on in not being a debate that you should be banned
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link
Since we brought up The goodies, bill office was quite the musician/songwriter, two songs a week on. I’m sorry i’ll Read that again for ten years.
Needless to say there is a lot of Python in ISIRTA and the earlier series probably have a similar hit/miss ratio. Ferret song stands with most of the best python sketches.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link
out of em all was bill oddie or gilliam or who the biggest prick
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link
tim brooke-taylor clearly the worst ito no actual talent coattailing
Oddie the worst in terms of glaring me down when I saw him on a bus one time and was thinking of thanking him for his work
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:04 (five years ago) link
A glare that intimated the real possibility of verbal assault if I dared to acknowledge him
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link
old cunt
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link
t/s getting slotted by Bill Odie vs Rory McGrath.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:17 (five years ago) link
Hate to say it, but Oddie used to be a regular customer when I worked in the jazz department of London's biggest record shop and he was always perfectly fine - clearly knew and loved his music, didn't expect or demand any special treatment, no trouble at all.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link
I know someone who used to work with his ex-wife and, yes, ex-wives and all that, but...
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link
... or Cleese or Idle.
Just watched the episode with the Clockwork Orange parody for the first time in several decades ( https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ewjb0 ) and it's pretty insane. And is in fact a parody of 2001 as well. Graham sends rabbits to the moon, Bill and Tim follow suit and get kidnapped by the moon rabbits who have become a super race and are sent back to earth as rabbits to terrorise the population (The Transistorised Carrot). How in hell they dreamed that up I don't know. It sort of holds up.
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:28 (five years ago) link
And it references Monty Python too!
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:32 (five years ago) link
That NTNOCN sketch is great, and sent me back to the original, which I still think might be their finest moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE
― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link
if you can bear it, the bill oddie "who do you think you are" was interesting, if also wrenchingly sad (one of the saddest i remember): http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/past-stories/bill-oddie.shtml
it doesn't quite expunge the "don't be a prick" rule but it does explain what maybe turned him into one
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
If Marcello was here he could list all the jazz/improv musicians who played on the Goodies records. I know Dave Macrae, from Matching Mole, was heavily involved. Also that "Funky Gibbon" was inspired by Parliament/Funkadelic, though it sounds more like "Smash the Social Contract" by Cornelius Cardew.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link
... actually it's the other way round "Smash the Social Contract" sounds like "Funky Gibbon".
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link