(xp) I think Bill Oddie got annoyed at the idea that it was seen as a kids show but then he's annoyed at everything.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
it was on at 7, even benny hill was on at 8
it was generally on at 5-6pm in Australia, and quite frequently cut. They did a stage tour in 2005 which was largely them sitting down, talking about the episodes that had been censored, and then showing the censored bits on a big screen.
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
lol
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
i liked the one where they knew the end of the world was about to happen bcz the pages in graeme's diary were blank after a certain date, aged 11 i thought this tremendous stuff
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
I remember one episode that was a parody of Clockwork Orange - not exactly a kids' film!
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
i think the parody involved them dressing up then falling down
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link
IIRC, Cleese appears in The Goodies as a genie emerging from a can, shouts "Kids' programme!" and disappears.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
everything the goodies have done since the goodies is better than anything john cleese did EVEN IN MONTY PYTHON there i said it
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
Some of them were definitely broadcast later than 7, I wasn't allowed to stay up for them. Altho that was probably mainly on the grounds that my dad "wasn't watching that rubbish".
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link
yr dad otm tho i loved em (silly men falling down was my jam)
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
Yeah I had the books and watched the TV show whenever the opportunity presented. The books were *definitely* not kids material despite the fact that yeah it's just gussied up slapstick mostly
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
I still fondly remember the Bronson The Wonder Man and "many moods of Charles Bronson" jokes from the Goodies' Disaster Movie book in the school library, despite having not seen Death Wish at age 8, nor any subsequent age
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 29 November 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link
Is that a dagger I see before me? No, it's Trufo the wonder dog!
...sorry I seem to have derailed a Python thread into a Goodies discussion haha.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link
monty python and the holy grail" is one of the most historically accurate movies about the medieval era
Unlike almost every other film, MP films really got onscreen filth right. Like, literally, the cast often looks like it'd been rolling around in the dirt and mud before shooting a scene.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
holy grail is probably their finest achievement in so many ways -- a consistently funny script, fine performances, just enough animation -- that i wish i hadn't burned out on it so long ago
still laugh whenever i think of "what, the curtains?"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link
Yeah. Probably not an uncommon story, but The Holy Grail deeply resonated with me and my nerd (USA) friends in middle school in the mid 90s. Like actually revelatory, shaped our senses of humor and inspired us to write comedy bits that we passed back and forth. It was an obsession for a good year or two.We delved deeper into all the other Python stuff but it was mostly never on the same level in our minds. Not entirely sure of the alchemy, that one wrecked us scene to scene but the other movies and show mostly fell flat.
― circa1916, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link
Is this where I can reveal that I changed all my AOL sound effects to Holy Grail .wavs
― circa1916, Thursday, 29 November 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link
It’s SO much funnier than ‘.. Brian’ that it’s not even a debate anymore.
― piscesx, Thursday, 29 November 2018 05:07 (five years ago) link
incorrect
like incorrect on both counts but so incorrect on in not being a debate that you should be banned
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link
Since we brought up The goodies, bill office was quite the musician/songwriter, two songs a week on. I’m sorry i’ll Read that again for ten years.
Needless to say there is a lot of Python in ISIRTA and the earlier series probably have a similar hit/miss ratio. Ferret song stands with most of the best python sketches.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 29 November 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link
out of em all was bill oddie or gilliam or who the biggest prick
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link
tim brooke-taylor clearly the worst ito no actual talent coattailing
Oddie the worst in terms of glaring me down when I saw him on a bus one time and was thinking of thanking him for his work
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:04 (five years ago) link
A glare that intimated the real possibility of verbal assault if I dared to acknowledge him
― Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link
old cunt
― old yeller-at-clouds (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link
t/s getting slotted by Bill Odie vs Rory McGrath.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:17 (five years ago) link
Hate to say it, but Oddie used to be a regular customer when I worked in the jazz department of London's biggest record shop and he was always perfectly fine - clearly knew and loved his music, didn't expect or demand any special treatment, no trouble at all.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:18 (five years ago) link
I know someone who used to work with his ex-wife and, yes, ex-wives and all that, but...
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:22 (five years ago) link
... or Cleese or Idle.
Just watched the episode with the Clockwork Orange parody for the first time in several decades ( https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ewjb0 ) and it's pretty insane. And is in fact a parody of 2001 as well. Graham sends rabbits to the moon, Bill and Tim follow suit and get kidnapped by the moon rabbits who have become a super race and are sent back to earth as rabbits to terrorise the population (The Transistorised Carrot). How in hell they dreamed that up I don't know. It sort of holds up.
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:28 (five years ago) link
And it references Monty Python too!
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:32 (five years ago) link
That NTNOCN sketch is great, and sent me back to the original, which I still think might be their finest moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKWVuye1YE
― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Thursday, 29 November 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link
if you can bear it, the bill oddie "who do you think you are" was interesting, if also wrenchingly sad (one of the saddest i remember): http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/past-stories/bill-oddie.shtml
it doesn't quite expunge the "don't be a prick" rule but it does explain what maybe turned him into one
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
If Marcello was here he could list all the jazz/improv musicians who played on the Goodies records. I know Dave Macrae, from Matching Mole, was heavily involved. Also that "Funky Gibbon" was inspired by Parliament/Funkadelic, though it sounds more like "Smash the Social Contract" by Cornelius Cardew.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link
... actually it's the other way round "Smash the Social Contract" sounds like "Funky Gibbon".
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link
*hurries off to the wire to steal that insight for a thinkpiece*
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link
isn't it also the "vote for nigel barton" tune tho? i think it's something repurpoised from the common realm
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link
Yes, I think you're right, nonetheless I refuse to give up on the idea that Goodies inspired Maoism was a thing at some point in the 70s.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link
the guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish on a (three-man) bicycle swims in the sea
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:28 (five years ago) link
Here: http://www.alwynwturner.com/glitter/funky_gibbon.html
Bill Oddie:You won't believe the musical pretensions that went on in my head. I listened to a lot of jazz and a lot of funk, and that period of the '70s for me was fantastic - it was really the era when fusion started. The people I liked were Sly Stone and early Parliament, and I listened to what was happening in jazz at the time, when Miles Davis was coming up with some very interesting hybrid music. With 'Funky Gibbon', I started off - it's almost unbelievable considering how stupid the song is - trying to get the feel of a Miles Davis track, I can't remember which, probably just after Bitches Brew and that sort of era: some really choppy Miles Davis-type rhythm, again with a Sly Stone influence.We had marvellous musicians on those sessions, but they couldn't get it. They knew what I was sort of trying to do, but I probably listened to that sort of thing more than they did, and it was driving us nuts, so we sent the drummer and the bass-player and the guitarist home. And I had a keyboard player called Dave Macrae, who'd played with Matching Mole and Robert Wyatt and people like that - governor player - and he started playing some clavinet, very Stevie Wonder-type feel to it, and I said, 'That's fine; could you do a synth-bass on it?'And then I literally started whacking the top of the grand piano. So the actual rhythm-track of 'The Funky Gibbon' has only got me and Dave on it - he plays clavinet and synth-bass and we miked up the top of the piano. Then we got the horn section of Gonzales playing a Memphis Horns-type thing. It was lovely for me to be able to use musicians I liked and try to reproduce sounds which I also listened to. And then put the stupid song over the top of it. The idea that all that effort went into 'The Funky Gibbon'!It sounds like Parliament on a bad day, or something like that (laughs), that kind of thing. I think subconsciously people feel it - this was always my theory about it, I thought: I want the music to sound good or authentic, whatever style it happens to be in.
― fetter, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link
the deeps of this man! no wonder he is always cross
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link
I have a positive Oddie story that involves a large bag of chocolate peanuts. It was Halloween and we kids knocked on his door. Always had time for the man after that but now re-evaluating my whole childhood.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 29 November 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link
I had a better impression of him than of Mel Smith who I also 'met' around the same time when he was filming something in a mate's house.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link
Still the NTNOCN hi-fi shop sketch remains classic at least until I decide to watch it again and I can't remember anything specific from The Goodies.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
Henry was to meet a grisly end. While working as a semi-retired night watchman in his late 60s - back then a comfortable retirement was a luxury not extended to the working class - he died after tripping into a vat of boiling brine.
sniff, I heard he was remarkably well preserved.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
lol i knew you'd enjoy that bit
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link
If Marcello was here he could list all the jazz/improv musicians who played on the Goodies records. I know Dave Macrae, from Matching Mole, was heavily involved. Also that "Funky Gibbon" was inspired by Parliament/Funkadelic, though it sounds more like "Smash the Social Contract" by Cornelius Cardew.― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:09 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink... actually it's the other way round "Smash the Social Contract" sounds like "Funky Gibbon".― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:18 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink*hurries off to the wire to steal that insight for a thinkpiece*― mark s, Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:20 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkisn't it also the "vote for nigel barton" tune tho? i think it's something repurpoised from the common realm― mark s, Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:21 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkYes, I think you're right, nonetheless I refuse to give up on the idea that Goodies inspired Maoism was a thing at some point in the 70s.― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:24 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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The 'who killed Cornelius Cardew' plot thickens...
― GG Allin: The Musical (Matt #2), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
Are you suggesting a tricycle was seen speeding away from the seen of the crime?
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
well, speeding then falling over
― mark s, Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
'the seen of the crime' nice
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:08 (five years ago) link