Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

HE TOUCHED THE BEARD. O_O

lol @ "agreeably metal" I'd forgot about the severed baby head part :/

When I stroke the beard, thusly

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— Jason Isaacs (@jasonsfolly) February 5, 2019

Jet Reno!

so whats with the bearded Vulcan, is he evil?

Are you talking about the season 2 promos? Because that's (yet another rebooted) Spock.

This was back to pretty-good-ness again this week!

Could've done with less space blob and more universal translator shenanigans - the show finally comes up with a killer, interesting idea and then fixes it five minutes later.

Tilly/Stamets/JET! are a great threesome tho

i don't really like saru, but i kind of hope he turns into an ice-cold killer now

did you watch the short about his journey to starfleet?

Ha, he’s prob my favourite regular cast member - he’s the most trad Trekky, well-rounded character, but he does such a great job of emoting through all that latex fish shmutz. I like that they’ve found a new place for him to go, too.

“Death” scene went on way, way too long tho

these "death of a regular cast member" episodes haven't aged well in the past. everyone knows worf isn't going to kill himself.

I suppose the sentient planet episode in S1 (which was very bad) was set-up for what Saru will become.

I think I missed something what was the lie that Saru mourned his people still labored under? Was it that you could lose your ear gland things and still live or was there something else/more?

i didn't get that either.

Makes a but more sense if you watch the short from a couple months back

So did I understand it correctly?

I think the death scenes are so drawn out because the writers were trying extra hard to establish Burnham and Saru as becoming such close friends as to be family, when before this episode any time their relationship was a focus it was more adversarial.

I liked the scenes where Meet snarks on Stamets, but otherwise I didn't care for the episode. The vastly more intelligent alien sentience trying to communicate with humans who interpret it as belligerent has been done to death imo so I was really impatient for Disco to figure it out.

Nice to see Number One though, especially without giving her a proper name yet.

Either something different is happening with Saru’s biology because he’s not with his people or they’ve been told a big lie about their lifespan. The implication was that at a certain age they are either harvested or have to do this ritual that kills them.

It really looks like maybe it’s actually a second puberty-like thing and after they lose their fear tendrils they enter another life stage. Which is an interesting concept — having an earlier adulthood with an excess of caution followed by another where you’re not guided by fear.

In the Saru short it was shown that the Kelpians' "gods" come to harvest them regularly, with the obvious implication being that they technologically advanced aliens taking advantage of less developed species... So apparently that's the lie Saru figured out in this ep. But I find that weird, because he should've figured out what the "gods" really are as soon as the Starfleet took him in and he saw their technology.

I guess it's possible he still thought those aliens were doing them a favour by harvesting them before their glands kill them, but I still don't find it credible he wouldn't have looked closer into this whole thing during all his time in Starfleet.

respect for tradition plus the prime directive, I’d guess, but it looks like there’s more to come

Im going to guess the ganglia were some kind of fear implant controlling kelpians for the benefit of the ba'ul (or however its spelt). And maybe not naturally a part of them at all.

tig notaro going "yo, anybody got gum?" and tilly immediately hooking her up with gum is a portentous clue that things are not what they seem.

I didnt think of that.

I did like that she appeared to use the gum as a jerry-rig fixit device though!

That's particularly suspicious when she specifically mentioned duct tape earlier. Why brag about duct tape but then use gum?

Whats yr thinking, theyre in another reality again or sometin?

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Leee, all I know about this show is the subway poster.

lol Philip

Just seen the Saru short. God the prime directive is literally the worst! Yeah you can go ahead and slaughter these intelligent beings because y'know they haven't invented spaceships yet.

i watched it too. that bit doesn't make sense to me either. why would they allow another advanced species farm a second sentient species for food just bc the second species isn't as advanced? that's fucked up and makes the PD look like an attempt to allow civilizations to progress organically and more like some isolationist make the federation great again bullshit.

makes the PD look *less*

feel like it's a good time to withhold judgment when they're definitely going to continue down this line of inquiry

we're also assuming the people doing the harvesting aren't also kelpians

the prime directive was always bullshit. a rule designed to show how often it should be broken -- like asimovs'.

Yeah, don't think Brightest Star actually explained what happened to the Kelpians that were taken, did it? xp

we've got some expectations based on the alternate universe people eating kelpians, but who knows?

Remember that scene where Evil Georgiou (before she came over) was eating Kelpian brain? I wonder now if that somehow links in.

Dammit I literally did not see mh saying exactly what I just said. Durgh.

we're also assuming the people doing the harvesting aren't also kelpians

this wouldn't make it any better imo since it would suggest that spacefaring races are allowed to keep subcastes in ignorant squalor

fwiw it doesn't really bother me vis-a-vis the consistency of the universe the federation has been shown to have questionable ethics and some kind of "not our business" PD could make plenty of intuitive sense even tho i feel like maybe this is generally a darker federation than in other series? but i'm not really an expert.

they keep referring to it as 'general order one', which i guess may not precisely be the PD?

I think that's what TOS calls it (TNG calls it the PD).

Yup

General Order 1: "No starship may interfere with the normal development of any alien life or society." (TAS: "The Magicks of Megas-Tu") General Order 1 was also better known as the Prime Directive. (TNG: "The Drumhead") It superseded all other laws and directives, with the exception of the Omega Directive. (VOY: "The Omega Directive")

enough with the corny-ass burnham voiceovers

Enjoyed this week's. Seemed to have some grit in my eyes at times too. Lol at all the fanboys whinging at the science fantasy aspect of it, as if Trek has always been some paragon of hard sci-fi.

But yeah, the voiceover at the end was a bit much. Had to check it wasn't the mid-season finale as it had that kind of vibe about it.

did the show hire voyager's science advisor? because it felt like a writer wrote down "(TECH) will save him!" and an advisor replaced it with "DNA".

feels like they are trying to explain things from TOS that didn't need to be explained. like how season 1 was trying to explain why TOS Klingons looked human... never mind that they were only spies in their first TOS appearance and that it was clearly a budget issue. now we have an extradimensional network that could explain how spock put his mind in mccoy. i'm guessing the whole spock plot in discovery is trying to explain Jerk Spock from The Menagerie part 1 -- he was a jerk because roddenberry was a bad writer.

Getting through the second half of season 1 was pretty tough, enjoying the first couple of S2 much more. If they kill Tilly at any point, I'm done with the series.

The awful expository dialogue (explanation of WWIII to a room full of people who definitely had history classes at Starfleet Academy) is the worst part.

I’m still amused by the fact one of my work team members convinced us to name our software development team “Section 31” way back in 2012 or thereabouts, before the trek writers decided to throw that premise into... everything

if only we were still around, we could have had team merch

Technobabble saves the day? Well, that's a Trek tradition too, unfortunately.