it's probably a little confusing to figure out how this fits into the larger tapestry.
Okay, I thought you meant were confused at the movie.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 12:18 (five years ago) link
Look, I'm all for youse guys declaring favorites and bombs and ranking however you see fit but declarative statements about everybody agreeing that this particular movie is garbage or that everybody thought BP was a BP lock makes me wonder what planet you're living on. Hala? Tarnax IV?
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link
xpost I will never be the one saying that, at the very least, as I'm always the one explaining everything to everyone. I think it's just understood at this point that I'm an acceptable facsimile of a walking Marvel Handbook.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 12:22 (five years ago) link
I'm assuming that, second only to the film's themes of female empowerment (which are way more understated than one might've been led to believe), the shut-ins will be largely up in arms about the revelation of how Fury lost his eye. But it was kinda hilarious and perfect imo.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
I don't know if I'd call them understated (I was expecting a "Nevertheless, she persisted" chyron at a crucial point), but they are fairly specific to her.
HEAVY fucking lol at the "Nah man, I won't be seeing this, I don't dig films that glorify the military-industrial complex" 'critique'
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
tbf the promo material was pretty heavy on US Air Force tie-ins, unusually so even for a contemporary action movie
― Simon H., Monday, 11 March 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
Also tbf that is extremely in keeping with the character in general (note: not in any way a fan of the military-industrial complex but facts is facts) but also she isn't even an Air Force pilot in this movie.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
was not a big fan of the usage of i'm just a girl in that particular fight scene. seemed kinda tacked on.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
I get that they wanted to use that song, and they wanted to do it with an action scene to drive the point, but it seemed like a really bad mismatch in that particular scene
― mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
It was on the nose but I think it fit the fight choreography nicely.
Tbf I didn't think the female empower ment was over the top. Other than the "you know why they call it the COCKpit montages, most of the rest of the film seems focused on her amnesia, an Ender's Game-ish misdirection, and a commentary on the uncomfortable relationship between jingoistic patriotism and militaristic imperialism (so basically Kree-Skrulls is Israel-Palestine)
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah, the Skrulls came out of this very well, considering that they're also a dangerous group of mad bastards.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
The Kree have been painted pretty unequivocally as intergalactic shits of the highest order for years on Agents of SHIELD so it was nice to feel, even if just for a moment, that the TV side of the MCU actually had some relevance.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
Quite enjoyed it but it did seem like a somewhat lesser Marvel film.
Wondered about when the Kree became seen to be bad. & the Skrulls to be victims.BUt Nazis do tend to portray themselves as being heroic, virtuous meritocrats who deserve to rule the universe don't they?
Looking forward to the next Avengers, funny to see the retrofit origin of the group name.
Also need to look up what else was retrofit in this. Carol Danvers seems to have taken on some of the iconography of the male Captain Marvel along the way.
― Stevolende, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
too bad we didn't get to see the big head version of the supreme intelligence
― mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link
It was a shame but perhaps they were just waiting until Reed Richards is inducted into the MCU so that they can moosh several of his alternate reality analogues into that thing (which is, I believe, still the current constitution of the Intelligence in the comics).
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
yeah p much. not really knowing much at all about capt marvel as a character both made me less interested (wouldn't know if there were interesting/disappointing departures from the comics) and intrigued (who's captain marvel???)
tryna do galaxy math and figure out how she's supposed to be one of the most powerful characters in the MCU, tho
― gbx, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link
"the dog ate my homework but I actually had all the answers correct" iirc
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:18 (five years ago) link
felt v triggered watching Annette Bening groove to “Come As You Are”it was all i could do not to yell UGH MUM STOP IT
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:39 (five years ago) link
I was like "yr probably more into the mid 90s Meat Puppets"
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:45 (five years ago) link
I liked this, I liked the soundtrack
I didn't like the "I shot the engine, now I'm absorbing its powers" moment but I was admonished by my friends like "that is how comic books WORK."
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:16 (five years ago) link
it isn't
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:29 (five years ago) link
it is tho
― gbx, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 05:06 (five years ago) link
U guys aren't doing "Epic" right
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 05:07 (five years ago) link
Annette Bening should play Liz Warren
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 07:16 (five years ago) link
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, March 11, 2019 11:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Would you have preferred power transference via Psyche-Magnitron? Would you??? Trust me, the MCU architects make this stuff way more palatable for the lay viewer.
sic is (quelle surprise) being pedantic. This is very much how SUPERHERO comics have often worked. Many times, the craziness is even more absurd. I would recommend googling the first two words of my current dn if you doubt me.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
I thought they made the case fairly clearly when she wiped out fleets of fighters and flew the long way through a dreadnought-style warship?
I shot the engine makes about as much sense as "I absorbed a gamma bomb and it gave me emotion-based powers", in fairness
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:43 (five years ago) link
This is very much how SUPERHERO comics have often worked. Many times, the craziness is even more absurd.
My favorite crazy example of this was the Captain America villain Solarr, who...got lost in the desert in Nevada, got real hot, and woke up shooting fire blasts from his hands.
― 27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:37 (five years ago) link
I mean, as you do.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:44 (five years ago) link
For sure. It was also minutes after she broke from the Supreme Intelligence.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:44 (five years ago) link
I really loved that scene. It really captured how Carol “fights” in the comic. She runs into objects and they explodes!
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:46 (five years ago) link
“they explodes"
In other words, SHE FLY @ U FACE.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:47 (five years ago) link
― 27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:37 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
IIRC Electro was literally just struck by lightning and *bam* electricity powers.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:53 (five years ago) link
Plus the thing where Hank Pym went from having to use a variety of chemical supplements until it finally dawned on him to avoid the science altogether and just think real hard about changing his size.
But we could be here all day on this topic if I get started.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link
The other side of the road isn't much better. They've got a guy who can do nearly anything because the sun on his home planet was... different
― mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link
uh the energy from the sun is pretty fuckin incredible man have u ever ~~~~~~~~thought about it~~~~~`~```~`
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
too often
― mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link
I thought everybody would know by know taht there were extra scenes during and after the credits of Marvel films. I was the only person to see the last one. Are people not seeing this as worth waiting for. GUess there weren't a massive amount of people in the screening anyway.
BUt quite fun and ties in elsewhere.Maybe the bits of the film that do tie in elsewhere are not as totally important to be tied up as to change things massively.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
you can just read what happened in them on your phone from the lobby or in the line for the restroom
tbh I should have done that. restroom line was ridiculous
― mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
Disney was fairly canny re: the release date for this one inasmuch as it leads in to the next Avengers film and won't be (legally) viewable anywhere but the theater before Endgame is released next month. So that probably cranked up the urgency a bit with at least some of the audience.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
oh noes legalities
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link
Ah, misread the thrust of 'Are people not seeing this as worth waiting for'. But yeah, most people in my theater had also already split before the post-credit scene. You can't imagine at this point that this is everyone's first MCU rodeo so who knows what they're thinking.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
that the scenes are small and relatively ephemeral?
I mean, one was a teaser for a film that's coming out in less than two months with the implication some version of that scene will be in the next movie, and the final one was there for laughs
I've left as the credits rolled a few times now
― mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
Yeah the credit crawls have ceased to have "new shocking info" since all of the origin stories are now done and Thanks actually showed up. Still fun tho.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
I dunno, maybe it's just my obsessively completist mindset but the notion of leaving a movie while there's still more movie left to watch is just anathema. Can't walk in late, either.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
leaving a movie before it's over can feel quite liberating
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
Re: consequentiality of end credits: Well if the flerken contains multiple universes it’s possible the tesseract from the CM universe just appeared in the current Fury-less universe. I just thought of this I don’t know how flerken guts work FYI but I will revisit this in the future if I am right
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
i meant, like, vis a vis thanos, not the other heroes
― gbx, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
The implication at the end of Infinity War is that he's burnt out the gauntlet, so he's probably just like super-super-powerful now instead of God Mk. II.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
ohhhhh
― gbx, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link