ILX Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball League 2003 -- Part 2 . . .

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Re: wit & the Chicago Cubs (copyright Baseball Prospectus & their constituents):

"It usually isn't the Cubs if something disappointing hasn't happened, and sure, enough, that's the case here. Now sure, Bobby Hill could have helped himself by having a great camp, but he was good enough to win the job last spring, last summer, and last fall. Why should a little bit of March yips change anything? Because the new sheriff in town probably needed to see something, in the same way that he's convinced that Mark Bellhorn's not good enough if he's only hitting homeruns or drawing walks. But again, perhaps far too predictably, a Dusty-designed team favored the graybeards. So Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek will play, although at least Hee Choi managed to hold onto a job-sharing arrangement at first. And then you've got a Cubs bench loaded with some of the scrubbier scrubs around, Tom Goodwin and Lenny Harris and Troy O'Leary, all years removed from utility, plus Ramon E. Martinez, who, like Goodwin, is another one of Dusty's guys from the Giants. You can almost sense the disappointment that Antonio Alfonseca wasn't healthy, so that Kyle Farnsworth could be flagellated for contributing to the unlamented departure of Don Baylor. Rod Beck had a good enough camp to make it, but having overcommitted to guys like Dave Veres and Mark Guthrie already, the Cubs were a bit hamstrung in terms of their choices in the bullpen. Should they finally find a partner to deal for Farnsworth, they'll have made space for someone appropriately old enough to not be mistaken for one of the batboy's fathers."

Yip!

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 12 April 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ouch, Zito [Felicity close your eyes NOW] coughing up 7 in 5 innings. That along with Pedro yesterday, who'd'a thunk.

But haha to whoever picked up Dempster after me.

Haha and Weathers gets the 2-inning hold but Benitez blows it AND Rocky Biddle gets the win in the same game!

Leee (Leee), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Berkman FINALLY got his first rbi! And HR! Yay!

Leee, you have to call him the Rockmeister.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh hold me Rockmeister.

Leee (Leee), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maddux FINALLY

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Weathers gets the 2-inning hold but Benitez blows it AND Rocky Biddle gets the win in the same game!

Leee, always a pleasure doing business with you. Being a pedigreed former CDK pitcher always carries with it a certain guarantee of quality. I demand retractions from everyone who even contemplated vetoing the Lo Duca for Biddle trade for being too one-sided in my favor.

OMG, KKKKKKKKKKerry Wood threw a gem yesterday.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

TORII HUNTER GET IT TOGETHER ALREADY

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread is eventually going to become the true equivalent of the Jay-Z/Nas throwdown thread, isn't it? A passionate bunch of insiders debate and hurl insults while the rest boggle on...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

aw yeah aw yeah

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Leee and Felicity in "Strange Bedfellows" shocka!

Leee (Leee), Sunday, 13 April 2003 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

did you finally seduce zito, felicity? is that where his brane was today???

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's so nice to see World Champions the Anaheim Angels getting the respect for which they have worked so hard.

Maybe Zito just wants to fit in with the other Hall of Famer pitchers who have been stinking it up. He's impressionable. It's been worth it for the sweet extra Smoltz footage talking about what's wrong with Maddux on BT.


felicity (felicity), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who's The Fighting Songs again? I made you a trade proposal.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 13 April 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's maura.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love Sunday Night Baseball. There's just something comforting about it. Like it's a nice way to ease into the realization that the weekend is over. I like Joe Morgan, can't understand why people hate on him so much.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

If someone can get me Werner Herzog's e-mail address, I'd be more than happy to eat my shoe re: the LoDuca / Biddle boondoggle. (Boondoggle on my end, of course.)

Felicity, do you realize how many KKKKKKKs your team has right now? It's obscene.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know, I'm like Scrooge McDuck about the strikeouts. Like I'm sitting here surrounded by my big bags of "K"s.

felicity (felicity), Sunday, 13 April 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Really, it's just the Cubs' rotation. The sad thing is I also kind of lust after Kerry Wood for my team. And Clement hasn't even turned it up yet. It's also wicked strange how having a high K-rate seems to go along with good WHIP, ERA and Ws, n'est-ce pas?

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

(i didn't start wood yesterday! i forgot! GULP)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 14 April 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

At least you didn't pick up and start Ryan Dempster. Doh!

bnw (bnw), Monday, 14 April 2003 02:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I Love Baseball is like the poor, plain, neglected cousin to Yanc3y's $$$ league.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 03:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey Felicity-- Your trade offer was totally fair but I couldn't justify messing with my team right now... if it ain't broke, etc.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 14 April 2003 11:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a big day for Pocket starters as I got three going today:

'Grape' Appier, Vazquez, and Brian Anderson (who was just picked up in a fit of homeritis). 'Zippo' Leiter pitched another great game.

I'm seriously considering starting a Tim Couch bobblehead doll at third base.

This is the Pocket minute for April 14th.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My team continues to be an offensive juggernaut, but yesterday we got some decent starts from Lowe (whose blood blister appears to have healed), Wells and Day... vaulting our team ERA up to 9th place. But only in fantasy land could a team have 3 wins and 6 saves!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dropping Pokey Reese was another in a long line of genius moves on my part- he's got 5 errors already this year.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aaron W., good sportsmanship on your part, rowr. Just keep it in mind if anything changes.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Will do! Just you wait... in a month or so when my team isn't batting .300 no more I'll be begging and pleading.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

here i sit, debating to trade the big unit for better infielders ... dum de dum ...

maura (maura), Monday, 14 April 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

gygax!, if possible, can you cancel my accidental dropping of E Burks? I meant to drop Counsell.

If you can't do it, or don't think it's right that's ok, too.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maura and I pulled off a pseudo-blockbuster just now! Wilkerson and Olerud for Stewart.

I kind of got rooked, but my team needed a shakeup.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 14 April 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Holy crap! How come I didn't know there was a player named Milton Bradley??

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 14 April 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

ah, old Milton's a gamer. He's been with the Tribe for a couple of years.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vazquez stikes out the side in the first inning!

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

How could you not know about Milton Bradley? Watch your Sports Center!

Vazquez stikes out the side in the first inning!

oh?

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

i wuv this thread :)

i also wuv sunday nite baseball but living the wrong side of the atlantic means it doesn't get going til ONE IN THE MORNING, which is rub when one has to go to work on monday :(

i'm still toying with the idea of signing up to NASN (http:\\www.nasn.com), but ten squid a month seems a little excessive, and also means you don't get the fantastic channel five presenters who are v funny.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

ALSO, i need some kindly american to tell me which team to support, as it's all very well watching, but rooting for someone has to be better :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

mitts off Vazquez, felicity.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wuv "stike"outs. At this rate VazKKKKKKez is going to shatter RJ/K. Wood's 20-K record.

Carsmile, wherefore nasn.com? Can't you follow games on Yahoo.com => Sports => MLB => Game Channel or ESPN.com Game Cast? Or is that TV?

Carsmile you should root for the Dodgers. They have a wonderfully distinguished history, the best radio announcer (Vin Scully) a great ballpark, the best uniforms in baseball, great weather and could really use some sincere overseas fans. Trust me.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Carsmile-- Don't root for the Tigers!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh and the Dodgers are unrepresented by fans on this board -- they will make your year exciting or misery but Fox, who owns them, spends enough on the Dodgers in salary so it's not like being a doomed Tigers or Orioles fan -- it will be worth your fandom. I like 'em ok but I have enough going on with the Cubs to really hoist the Dodger petard. Theset best is that as a Dodger fan you can get into excellent trash talking with Giants fans Leeee and gygax! (Hint: call them the "gnats" or "jints").

Did I mention the Dodgers have the best uniforms? How do they get their whites so white?

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Whatever you do, don't adopt the Yankees. You understand that's like suddenly becoming a Champions League football fan and adopting Manchester United, right?

The Dodgers would be more like Newcastle or Liverpool or some other team that is in no danger of relegation and occasionally wins but are not hated, overspending perpetual winners. Is there a famously long-suffering perrenial Premiere League team that doesn't get relegated but still never wins? That would be the Cubs.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dodgers do have the best uniforms.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

well yes, i realised the yankees was a no-no :)

sorry about rub link skills, nasn is a new satellite channel showing mlb, nhl and loads of college sport (nasn = north american sports network) oh and nascar too (yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnn, and i'm a formula 1 fan). it's http://www.nasn.com obv. not entirely convinced it's worth the money, i imagine most of their subscribers are ex-pats and military types (and insomniacs) over here...

dodgers are also NL aren't they? can't be doing with this DH nonsense ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

"dodgers" is a good nickname too. God, think if the team you root for was called the "Magic" "Heat" "Spirit" etc...

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh and the Dodgers are unrepresented by fans on this board -- they will make your year exciting or misery but Fox, who owns them, spends enough on the Dodgers in salary so it's not like being a doomed Tigers or Orioles fan -- it will be worth your fandom. I like 'em ok but I have enough going on with the Cubs to really hoist the Dodger petard. Theset best is that as a Dodger fan you can get into excellent trash talking with Giants fans Leeee and gygax! (Hint: call them the "gnats" or "jints").

buh-leeve me, i hear enough of the dodger fandom in my reality baseball life f.

my dad is originally (and now) from los angeles and he gives me enough grief. most of my friends are dodgers fans.

and hold your horses, before you think i'm 100% behind the giants. i think i mentioned earlier that i hated the 1980s giants (will clark barf) but warmed when barry signed with them. (my favorite team in the 70s-early 90s were the Pirates.) one of my most hated players last year was a giant. his initials are Jeff Kent. i was never huge on dusty baker (or darren baker even!) giants pitchers are mediocre at best, their "stars" are ridiculously over-rated... very lucky.

the dodgers have been so mediocre in the past few years, i almost feel sorry for them. i do have some giants paraphenalia, but it's only in tribute to bonds. i have no respect for the management.

[i'm actually in a great mood right now, hard to believe]

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

They are "Dodgers" as in the Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, dodging their way between trolleys in Brooklyn but you can think of them like the 2-step UK Garrige Artful Dodgers if you prefer, innit.

Dodgers are NL yes. Double-switch or die! Jim Tracy's a gem of a manager, you'll enjoy him. Oh yes, you get Shawn Green and Eric Gagne, very exciting team . . .

See, the Dodgers and Jints have one of the Classic Rivalries in all of sports. Learn about Bobby Thomson and 1951.

felicity (felicity), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

"dodgers" is a good nickname too. God, think if the team you root for was called the "Magic" "Heat" "Spirit" etc...

or even "the devil rays", what's that all aboot? maybe if i support the expos they'll come and play some games in london :)

gagne's the awkward looking closer with the funny beard, yes?

i shall ponder this a little longer i think, anyway, anything's better than supporting exeter city (curse you, hopkins and your persuasive ways, "just come to one game" he said, "what harm can it do?" he said, four games this season and scanning the results feverishly every saturday, and a future of trolling round non-league grounds is where it leads i fear...)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

pac bell is a great park though, i encourage all of you to visit.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 14 April 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gagne is French Canadian, and Green is Jewish, and they have Kaz Ishii whose Japanese, so you get all that multiplicity too!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 14 April 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and Nomo too! Between him and Gagne that's like two of the most fun pitchers to watch!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 14 April 2003 21:26 (twenty-one years ago) link


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