Prior to when? Prior to that point in time.
― punning display, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
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― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
When students use the phrase, at least I get it: word count requirements. For example: "Prior to lunch, I went to the gym."
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link
Consonance is occasionally a factor.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link
tbh my attitude to most stuff in this thread is: go for it! not only don't get OFF my lawn, get ON it! my generation left yours an utterly fucked world, even if most of us don't acknowledge this yet, and i'd rather spend time being charmed by the babble of the invention of new silly habits than aggrieved that it's no longer something i get to do
― mark s, Thursday, January 18, 2018 1:03 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the problem with "nailed it" and "spot on" in my experience is less to do with age than with judgment: the people who use it are always wrong, and what they're pointing at excitedly is always bad not good
― mark s, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link
Besides, doesn't "nailed it" carry unsavory associations in this Me Too era?
― punning display, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
I disapprove of this slangy use of "went" as the past tense of "go", tell your students they should be using "yode"
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with disliking some innovations in language (or even some older parts of language) and if enough ppl dislike them they probably won't have staying power. acknowledging that language is an evolving thing and that there isn't an abstract or platonic right way to speak it doesn't preclude finding certain innovations in it clumsy, redundant, obscuring meaning, trite, vapid, etc.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
Maybe but then why is this thread so unrelentingly bad
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
level 1. SAE the way i was taught in school (or by my grammatically anal retentive parent) is the correct way to speak and write and people who stray from this are monsterslevel 2. any way ppl want to speak and write is fine bc language evolves and we should be descriptivists and ppl who criticize are monsterslevel 3. lots of ppl use language in stupid + clumsy ways often cribbing cliches that they learnt yesterday on twitter/in the boardroom nonetheless we should always be open to creative + novel uses of language bc it can enrich our lives
put some exploding brain meme pic next to each of those or something
― Mordy, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
this thread is bad for the same reasons ilx is bad would be my guess
ILX is brimming with journalists, copy editors, teachers and the like.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
Because there are as many Englishes as there are English speakers, and while some defer even their own native speaker intuition to Standard English(es), as I noted earlier we don't have as much control over language as we think we do - there is a part of you that hates certain novel language features, but there is another part of you, call it your animal language, that eats that shit up because it is wired that way. That conflict won't go away, and being both literate and Internet-saavy will make it worse.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
The rest are closet classicists.
xp
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
I just want to congratulate the whole web team, we set some very ambitious targets for last quarter and all of us, everybody who worked late nights during the launch -- and Rich of course -- we really smanged those goals. Thanks, guys.
― mick signals, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link
I avoid these uncomfortable work exchanges by never accomplishing anything
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
lmao mick
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
― Mordy, Wednesday, June 12, 2019 1:40 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
when one reads ilx all day the typical ilx-isms like "imo" "iirc" "otm" "bad not good" "that's my Raggett" "thanking you" etc. all kind of get old/annoying after awhile
― Evan, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
"bad not good"
hm
― mark s, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
ilx isn't so bad, this other forum i frequent, it's like 'fighting to preserve white identity' this 'fighting to preserve white identity' that, every 2 seconds. we get it, enough already!
― lumen (esby), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link
maybe it's time you stepped up and told them you're sick of them being so repetitive. they may even thank you for letting them know and apologize. after all, online relationships can't flourish without a willingness to be honest.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
'smashed my gym goals'Seriously?
Seriously?
Yes, seriously, but this is from a very lovely gentle person who isn't showing off in this case as it's related to a physical problem - it's not so much the 'showing off' element but the 'smashed'. I just hate it."Crushed it" I associate with Rebel Wilson that is not a fat joke
― kinder, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link
Closecists.
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link
"your biases are showing"
― groovemaaan, Thursday, 13 June 2019 07:28 (five years ago) link
Solecists.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 09:23 (five years ago) link
'I'm not crying, you're crying.'
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 10:14 (five years ago) link
that should be the title for this thread
― mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 10:15 (five years ago) link
'I'm not crying, you're crying.'ugh i will join in on this onewhat a scourgei'm not crying and if i were i would not be posting about it on the internet
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link
starting to be annoyed by all words & phrases
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link
Language is bad not good.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link
irritability/crankiness and anger can be a manifestation of depression
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
pom otm
― mark s, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
worth pointing out that lots of ppl are ~really bad~ at picking apart subtleties of language and very often -perhaps understandably- feel personally attacked by usages of language that are not 100% literal
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link
Also: possible cultural variations.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
Ezra Pound came to this conclusion as well.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
I don't object to literalism or florid metaphor either. I keep reposting this sentiment but it's really just grating to see anyone write anything that anyone else has ever written before. Not that I'm not guilty of doing that; surely we all are. But I already have enough deja vu without people resorting to stock sentiments.
ilx injoke phrases are good not bad though
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
xp hm I'm probably obliged to take the opposite stance as Ezra Pound on anything
Cratylus would have loved for 100% literalism to be achievable and I concur. But I've yet to encounter it anywhere, including (perhaps even especially) in imagism.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
being densely, anarchically literal is fun and funny as Amelia Bedelia proves
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that makes sense. But there's another reading of that scenario... most people are actually pretty damn good at picking up subtleties of language, as long as they are the subtleties of their in-group. Feeling personally attacked by having to make efforts to understand others is not a linguistic problem, it's a kind of privilege. Taking the time to figure out other sociolects you frequently encounter isn't super hard, but "this is too hard for me to learn" is a great excuse to be lazy and let others continue to do the hard work of understanding.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
i should aha make clear aha that i am decidedly not of the on group to which i refer
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
Dialectical counterpoint: when everything is ironic, nothing is.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link
hahaha, no, no reference implied to anyone here!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link
'the exact same'
― meaulnes, Saturday, 15 June 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link
Going waaaaaaaay back, here's a couple of jokes me and my brother made up:Q: What do you call a Glaswegian rock 'n' roll singer who is a recovering alcoholic?A: Chuck Bevvy.That was mine, this was my brother's:Q: What do you call a Glaswegian impressionist?A: Zack Same.I'm sure there's more I can't remember right now.― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:10 (two years ago) Permalink
Q: What do you call a Glaswegian rock 'n' roll singer who is a recovering alcoholic?A: Chuck Bevvy.
That was mine, this was my brother's:
Q: What do you call a Glaswegian impressionist?A: Zack Same.
I'm sure there's more I can't remember right now.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 August 2016 10:10 (two years ago) Permalink
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 June 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
I really hate "stuck the landing".
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
"Double-click" as a synonym to "follow through". E.g., "I will double-click on you later this week."
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link
excuse me what?
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
yeah im sorry nobody has ever heard that and been free to post on a message board after, even with a kind judge its eight to ten for manslaughter
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
i don't have the bandwidth to double-click on you right now
― forensic plumber (harbl), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link