David Lynch - Classic or Dud

Dunno if I’d say that but it is way lynchian for sure

If I define his ethos, broadly, as, "unearthing the unexpected in the most banal of surfaces," then TSS is at the top of the triumphs.

I think a lot of ppl would say a certain type of dread is a necessary component (but tss isn’t even completely free of that!)

The most Lynchian is definitely a stretch, especially now that we have the all-you-can-eat Lynch buffet that is Twin Peaks season 3.

i was full after ep 8

I find the surfaces of TSS among his creepiest.

I think he called it his most experimental film - he’s also called eraserhead his most spiritual film, and there’s no reason not to take him at his word in either case but I think most would swap those two around (or have IE supercede both on both counts)

The Return is his masterpiece

Have you seen the straight story?

I just went looking for home-video releases of TSS and that is a disgusting situation -- a DVD with package design so bad it looks like a bootleg, and no blu-ray. I demand the Criterion Collection do something about this soonest.

are there different dvd versions? there appear to be at least 3 different cover images for it. I think it's the only feature of his I've never seen. I doubt it will surpass The Return for me, however

Yeah it's afaik the only Lynch work I still haven't seen (aside from the Duran Duran film but come on). They really do need to make with the blu-ray already, gahdammit.

It's still a great movie on DVD.

I will watch it!

Not Straight Story Bluray news but...

Dear Twitter Friends, A Blu-ray of LOST HIGHWAY will be released very soon. It was made from old elements and NOT from a restoration of the original negative. I hope that a version from the restoration of the original negative will happen as soon as possible.

— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) June 22, 2019

Hih, that's disappointing

great way to kill that BR release...!

Xpost way upthread to Alfred - sure I would say its def not uncommon for me to meet ppl who profess to be super into lynch but aren’t really able to discuss (or in many cases haven’t seen) his movies that don’t feature IN YR FACE horror & grotesquerie. In my experience these are usually people under 40 for whom Lynch’s oeuvre is Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, Mulholland Drive, and [everything else].

those ppl usually haven't seen The Elephant Man either

Or any of his appearances on The Cleveland Show. Philistines.

Kino Lorber responded to David Lynch's tweet from over the weekend. It sounds like Lynch's dissatisfaction with the release is partially his fault.https://t.co/J8NrKe7jLm pic.twitter.com/o1hSEYGKcn

— Eric Dienstfrey (@SignalsToNoises) June 24, 2019

I know that Tim Lucas recorded the commentary track for the Kino Lorber release that Lynch nixed (on general principle - he just doesn't like 'em).

kino strike me as 'budget criterion'.

which isn't to say they haven't put out good things.

I'd say your impression is accurate on both counts.

A Deep Dive Over At The Criterion Forum

Lost Highway, more like Lost Opportunity

it's not his worst (that would be Wild at Heart) but Tuomas is right in that it's clearly a dry run for the shifting identities and inverted realities of Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire, Twin Peaks: The Return etc. But it contains a bunch of sequences that don't really work, and several of the stunt cameos (Marilyn Manson, but also Richard Pryor) take me out of the movie.

I think Lost Highway actually is his worst, but most people can probably come together and at least agree that the worst Lynch project featured the involvement of Barry Gifford (had actually literally forgotten that Hotel Room existed until this very moment).

yup, Gifford was a bad influence

Probably not I reckon

or at least a mismatch as far as collaborators go

one and a half of the hotel rooms are actually pretty good imo

No judgment inasmuch as I haven't seen them recently enough to judge, just recalling that they were another Gifford joint and among the less feted Lynch works.

yeah, i agree! i liked the crispin glover episode, and i like Wild at Heart too, but they're way down on my Lynch list

One of the many ways ppl read twin peaks s3 was as a kind of résumé, Lynch working in all these modes he’d worked in before, with bits that felt like eraserhead, dune, his paintings... what was maybe most surprising was that along with all his features and the two Lynch/frost series there was a decent bit of hotel room in the return’s dna

I think of the Gifford era as Lynch's 'try hard' period. He didn't seem to have as much faith in his otherwise-uncanny instincts. Which I think was best encapsulated for me when I finally saw the deleted scenes from Wild at Heart. In most other instances, material that doesn't make it into the final cut of a Lynch film feels like added texture, something of a piece with the greater whole but not particularly necessary. With respect to Wild at Heart, some of the excised scenes felt rather more integral and as if they'd been cut just to make the finished film seem WEEEEIRD. One of the rare instances where I feel like an expanded cut would make for a better film.

But I was mainly disagreeing that there was consensus about a Gifford project being his worst. A lot of people really don’t like dune or inland empire, and both wild at heart & lost highway are beloved

I watched Lost Highway for the first time a week or so back and liked it a lot, although as everybody mentions it has a lot of similarities to Mulholland Drive. I've only seen Blue Velvet (decades ago), Twin Peaks (original series), Fire Walk With Me, this, Straight Story, and Mulholland Drive. Although none of them near enough to one another for comparison purposes. What makes Lost Highway suck so bad, in so many people's eyes?

The only sequences that work in LH are the opening credits using Bowie's "I'm Deranged" and the wizardry editing of Bill Pullman's late night free jazz performance. Everything else is a rehash (Robert Blake doing Frank Booth), clearly the end of a method.

I agree w that

I wouldn't say it sucks (even the worst Lynch is better than the majority of extant things), rather that it just feels like thin soup to me. Most of his work is a deep well from which I can drink full over and over, but I just don't get much out of LH.

there are good moments and scenes throughout tbf. I love the scene w Robert Blake with the phone at the party, for example.

the end of one method but the beginning of another (Möbius strip timelines)

xp

David Foster Wallace's essay for Premiere on its making is the best thing it inspired.

the end of one method but the beginning of another (Möbius strip timelines)

― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone)

Oh sure. The Straight Story was an unexpected, delightful return, more successfully "Lynchian" than LH. Then along came Mulholland Drive.

Robert Blake doing Frank Booth

... no i disagree with this

DFW essay is great. Also responsible for convincing me to reconsider the implications of the final shot of Blue Velvet.

Yeah do you mean loggia?

I was lukewarm on LH at the time but it'll be of interest longer than most movies from 1997. Seeing it projected on a huge screen took it to another level for me.