― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I doubt whether Channel 4 enforced any 'nicening'. You know, maybe Barley always looked like that in Brooker's head, and if you boil the actions in any of the episodes down to the kind of 3-sentence description that you would find in TV Go Home, it wouldn't be that different. But TVGH gave the impression that Barley was a cartoonishly horrible amoral grotesque, and that's not what we got in the TV show. We got 'idiots'. I hoped it would be either venemous or ridiculous and it was neither.
― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
pt. I
pt. II
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link
i lolled?
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh okay, I didn't read the website so I didn't know what was supposed to happen, I only saw (and liked) what did.
― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link
'TDT' radio show was 1992. he was doing big things on london radio about then too.
'blue jam' dropped at the arse-end of '97 and was hot into the double-nine.
for me it went bad with 'jam' but then i was a student contrarian at the time, maybe i missed out.
it's just that there was a looong hiatus between the underwhelming 'brass eye '01' and 'nathan barley'.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link
ie 'on the hour' (in b4 sotcaa smackdown).
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link
on which Morris had only as much if not less input than Lee, Herring, Marber, Baynham etc. [/sotcaa swot]
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link
fig 1the day today = bendsbrass eye = ok computerblue jam = kid ajam = amnesiacBES = hail to the thiefnathan barley / it crowd = the eraser
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link
as a team they really were a 90s Python only with a much more 'subliminal' influence on everything after (they're all known but not really as celebrated as Python gang were after they disbanded). i know the comparisons only stretch so far.
After Python there seemed to be quite a gap between something like that and early 80s 'alternative' 'edgy' stuff (Comic Strip etc.), only a handful of decent well crafted sitcoms in the 70s - which seems stranger and stranger looking back. perhaps we're seeing a similar effect even now with Whitehouse having killed laughtrack sketchom only for it's reanimated corpse to stalk the lands taller than ever before in Little Britain and Tate. Gervais is an anomaly with ridiculous carte blanche but can take 'credit' for pushing 'reality comedy' into mainstream. The conventional sitcoms remains thwarted, no show in that vein unable to command mass appeal of even mid 90s predecessors.
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link
i think you're gonna have a very different perspective than me tbh, my dad knew about him before i did via radio 4 and he basically made me watch 'the day today', and then there was the radio one music show which was a revelation -- but also not infallible. so yeah the post-jam mystique is a bit lame, but it really is a recent development within his career, and arguably it ended with 'nathan barley' anyway.
xpost
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link
or the Mel C.
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes, his very best work is probably behind him but I have a lot of time for most of his stuff post-BE. It was the "utter shit"/"I turned it off during the ad break" reaction of many posters on the SOTCAA/NotBBC/CaB forums to the BE P43d0 Special back in 2001 that made me realise that I just wasn't going to hack it as one of that crowd. Maybe I'm too easily amused.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link
cook - morrismiller - marbermoore - coogan (ok it breaks down a bit here)bennett - iannucci (wheels: off)
but he's still sort of otm.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link
iannucci has come back from post-TDT mediocrity (imo) to awesomeness. to be fair he's more of a producer than the other stuff but even still.
'TMWRNJ' has never been underrated on this talkboard.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40897000/jpg/_40897670_crackpipe203spl.jpg
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Whither Lionel Nimrod?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link
also surely the true inheritors of brass eye are balls of steel and the friday night project. in a roundabout kinda way. alex zane mocking anne frank writer is speak yr brain fed through the millenial vice mentaility.
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link
you made me sick up a little
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link