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There is some crazy plan here in Ireland to reduce the wages of bar staff in the expectation that they will make it all back in tips, like in America. But this is not America, and people in pubs do not tip.

DV, you're joking? That will never work! Christ, most of the time we resent our bar staff charging us so much!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

US pints are smaller.

This isn't really true. Either that or you and your Britishes kind have taken me to the wrong pubs, repeatedly. Or someone has taken you to bad ones in the US :(

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, you win the most annoying post of all time award.

― I'll give you tip (dirtyvicar), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

nothing anybody says on these threads is true. <- except that.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i've had 'normal' pints in the US tho yes.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

US pints are smaller.

also our seconds are shorter and our year is only 251 days. also, a day takes 13 hours here.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure US pints ARE smaller - isn't a US pint 16oz, and a UK one 20oz?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've seen both sizes. Varies from bar to bar.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true, actually. A pint in the US is 16 fl oz, but an Imperial pint is 20. Imperial pint glasses are usually thinner (so less interior space is taken up by the glass walls) and have that bulge at the top. Some bars in NYC follow the UK model, tho I have to think they're doing it for ex-pat or global credibility reasons (ie it's an Irish or Australian bar or etc).

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure where you are all getting these standard sizes, I've been to a significant amount of US bars where beers are served in the size glass that the individual beer is supposed to be served in, ie the chimay glass, the giant pilsners, etc. That all being said, I have never noticed a difference in the size of a standard bog tap brew in either country. I think this standards myth is a myth!

xpost yes Laurel but if you can find me a bar that actually goes by standardized THIS IS A PINT IT IS 160Z and not THESE ARE THE GLASSES WE HAVE THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGIE SIZED COS THEY CAME FROM IKEA I will fall dead of shock.

― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know about the US, but in the UK a pint is always 20oz = 568ml, by law, so we do have standard sizes. Maybe it's different there though.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

life without free pouring must be so depressing.

― say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ally, eh? I have "pint glasses" in my cupboards at home (purchased at Fishes Eddy) and they are only the 16 oz kind. Pretty sure that it's an exception to the rule to have 20 oz glasses here; most bars I can think of, even respectable non-fancy ones like Freddy's and the Whiskey Ward, serve 16 oz pints. Does Ikea sell Imperial glasses? I think they usually have the little crown and a glyph etched on the side and I think you have to go looking for them.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Stop talking about pints I beg of you

― Bhumibol Adulyadej is getting so thirsty (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, you win the most annoying post of all time award.

-- I'll give you tip (dirtyvica...), January 22nd, 2007 10:52 AM. (dirtyvicar) (later) (link)

Thanks! I certainly picked the most appropriate thread for it!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

our fluid ounces are smaller

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

There are a lot of places in the US that use 14-oz pub glasses.

― manifestation of the information age taken to the max (Brian Miller), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

to the guy in the business suit at my restaurant today who ordered the salad and bottomless (making sure to enunciate this word) soup: 10% is not an acceptable tip. especially after you made me get you 4 more soups. please, do not come back. if you do, please request a different server to run their ass off for you.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I have teh total fear of going to Americky next month. I shall therefore not buy anything and let my brother do it all because he's used to your weirdy Americky ways. Hurrah!

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey, have you figured out that the only people who care when waiters bitch are other waiters? And even they don't care that much.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

get me more soup, boy

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Pls try to separate Mickey being Mickey from the shitty things that customers routinely do to waitstaff. Thank you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

See if you hate doing stuff for other people so much, why do you work as a waiter? Seriously, is there *nothing* else you can do?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

soup don't serve itself

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ailsa, while in college for a part time job - no, really nothing better than that i can do. now that i'm done with college - yes. working on it.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i spilled shit all over my shirt too so i had to rush home to try to wash and iron clothes before going back. ughhhh

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

xp The money is good and generally the people you work with are decent, but if serving makes you moan like Mickey, then quit.

Assuming a felon can get another job and all.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

milo z, otm about the felony. i'm worried.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Home soup is killing the food service industry.

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i always try to subtly get someone to get something else instead of soup. biggest pain in the ass thing to serve. slows down everything. plz do stick to campbell's.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

if you can find me a bar that actually goes by standardized THIS IS A PINT IT IS 160Z and not THESE ARE THE GLASSES WE HAVE THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGIE SIZED COS THEY CAME FROM IKEA I will fall dead of shock.

Don't die. A beer can come in any size -- there's a place on the LES that serves rounds of 11 10-milliliter shots of beer -- but if you go to a beer-centric bar they are aware of what a pint is. The first place I happened to check specifies 20-ounce pints on their menu (because they're Britishy) but I don't think being standard is that uncommon.

― Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i could drink the shit out of a snakebite or a black and tan at the moment.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

At the Longbranch in Knoxville you get beer served in a styrofoam coffee cup. It is cheap, though.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the places that serve bottled beer with a tiny, frosted glass

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i was at an afterhours dive in memphis this weekend and they poured the contents of a bottled beer into a red solo cup. it felt like a high school keg party. i guess they don't want to give patrons glass bottles at 3:30 a.m.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

many venues will also do this if the acts fear shit being thrown at them.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

so that's why the Shimura Curves broke up

― tony conrad schnitzler (sanskrit), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

1 US pint = 0.832673844 Imperial pint

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

plus, our pints are imperial

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The plastic cup thing has something to do with making their lives x% easier should the place get busted.

xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yea, well out money isn't worth shit, so we get a better deal on beer!

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

to the guy in the business suit at my restaurant today who ordered the salad and bottomless (making sure to enunciate this word) soup: 10% is not an acceptable tip. especially after you made me get you 4 more soups. please, do not come back. if you do, please request a different server to run their ass off for you.

there's something about the way you tell these stories that makes me side with your asshole customers over you.

maybe it's because i wouldn't feel like tipping someone with obvious anger issues particularly generously.

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck off lex

― UART variations (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

if you're paying $5 for a beer it's not a better deal.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

unless compared to crappy london clubs and music venues that charge £3 and give it to you in a bottle or plastic cup.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I was asked if I wanted a "proper pint" in a bar in Monterey when they heard my British accent. I urge all Americans to get 25% free by doing the accent.

― caek (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Or go to Fabric where it costs £4 for a small bottle of beer - but then you don't really go there for the beer.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I ran up a tab of six bottles of Kronenbourg then found out they were 9EUR each. I THOUGHT I'D DIE.

― caek (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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