Best CHEERS character

i will never stop praising roger rees

19th of his name

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9pm was late for me but i was 10 tbf

just remembering the episode where Frasier was reading the bar adulterated versions of Dickens stories and LOLing

I was just reading Willli9am Goldman talking about A Bridge Too far so thinking about John Ratzenberger as a macho action supporting cast actor before he got cast in this. Not sure tow hat extent that was his standard role just do remember seeing him as a marine in that, I think he's one of the guys in the boat or inflatable raid that Redford is commanding. Think I saw him in some other stuff too.
Was he intentionally cast against type for this?

First appearance of Lilith last night, absolutely hilarious performance from someone who was presumably only originally meant to be in it for one scene?

he's in one of the joan collins vehicles as a sleazy stud but i don't think he got enough work to have established a "type" really

the reason frazier is bad not good is that lilith isn't in it (and daphne is)

" Candi Pearson : I'm Candi.

Dr. Frasier Crane : Yes, so I see from your necklace, Candi with an 'I'.

Candi Pearson : Well, I used to spell it with a 'Y', but nobody ever took me seriously, so then I switched it to an 'I', you know, like Gandhi."

they must have had superb audition screening for one-ep roles, bcz so man of them are genuinely funny

(by contrast the unspeaking background ppl at the bar seem to have been screened for anonymous undistracting uselessness: the legendary "Al" can't act to save his life, as a comic or anything else -- which is kind of funny and briefly becomes an implied running meta-joke)

(obviously he's still better than roger rees)

Lilith does make a few appearances in Frasier. I don't mind Daphne, but all her many unconvincing Britishes relatives and boyfriends are one of the series major drags.

Daphne is p good as someone who stops Frasier and his Dad from tearing into one another. She could kill the show -- and her relationship with Niles eventually does -- but there are a lot of strong characters and scripts in the early seasons.

Never seen Cheers beyond the odd clip. One day I'll give it a go!

I think Cheers is still on C4 in the early mornings, but sadly they don't have it on All4 or whatever it is now.

Cheers>>>>>Frasier for me, primarily because Cheers so rarely devolved into "whoops those are my trousers"-style farce; Frasier's reference points might have been highbrow, but the comedy was often much broader.

Like, Cheers is one of the sharpest US comedies about class, for me.

cheers is all-time

*cut to eddie the dog with the cutest expression*
*cut to mark s throwing eddie out of the window of the high apartment block*

Eddie was the Roger Rees of Frasier eh

Won't hear a word against Eddie.

(xp) Excuse me, Eddie was talented!

In his last year of life he suffered from dementia and deafness. He died of natural causes at home at the age of ​15 1⁄2 years on June 22, 2006.

So that's what happened to Roger Rees then :(

Eddie...

... managed to rehearse, preview and open in The Visit on 23 April 2015. By the middle of May, it had become too difficult for him to speak, and he left the show.

I must have missed this poll but I'd have been all DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE I CAN'T because Cheers is loaded with great characters. I remember thinking they couldn't replace Coach or Diane but it kept going and Woody ended up one of my favourites.
If I absolutely HAD to choose I'd probably go with Norm for the entrance gags.

I used to watch Frasier when it was on, but the thought of re-watching it does not appeal at all, whereas I would def like to binge-watch Cheers at some point. The first 3 series of Seinfeld are on All 4 at the moment so I'll probably watch those first

they must have had superb audition screening for one-ep roles, bcz so man of them are genuinely funny

Harry from Night Court is in S1, as a two-bit bar grifter! (2 years before Night Court began) - already with the fedora and his whole schtick

harry pops up a few times in the entire run: his thing feels as if it might already have been a stage bit? like everyone is winking to everyone else when he turns up (but perhaps that's in the later appearances)

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don't make me repost my frazier = hannibal graphic

i think i said this upthread but cliffie and his mom are both in OUTLAND (1981) tho the family relationship is not re-restablished

Frasier rudely ignored his dad when he came to Cheers to write a jingle, really committed to pretending he was dead

The earlier episodes in particular feel very stage-y - like you can tell everyone involved is a terrific theatre actor, they way they physically use the set is very different to later sitcoms. Danson and Long I've already singled out but Rhea Pearlman is absolutely phenomenal at it.

perlman and devito MVPs for life

lol ok actually they separated (twice) but are still friends and refuse to divorce

Like, Cheers is one of the sharpest US comedies about class, for me.

This is clearly one of the writers' main aims from the word go. One of the reasons Boston works so well as a setting is that you can have an equal proportion of sports fans and eggheads and it feels more or less natural them all being in the same bar.

all otm

the physicality is just incredible

Started a rewatch from the beginning due to insomnia. Perfect show for comfort viewing, the theme is like an old blanket. I forget how great Coach is. Last night I saw the episode where his daughter is engaged to a jerk because she doesn’t think she can do better. The exchange between father and daughter about her looking like her mother made me blink back tears. So good.

Last night I saw the episode where his daughter is engaged to a jerk because she doesn’t think she can do better. The exchange between father and daughter about her looking like her mother made me blink back tears. So good.

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I had this exact experience (only it was Monday, not last night). That's a beautiful scene.

Yes, message board, you now have me re-watching Cheers from the beginning, too. I'm already surprised by how well I remember some of these episodes (like the one about Carla and the obnoxious Yankee fan) and not others (strangely, even though I know I've seen all of these multiple times, I don't recall ever seeing the one with the would-be monk tying one on and making a pass at Diane, which is a GREAT episode, btw)

That episode is amazing. Also, always loved Agnes Dipesto.

been rewatching as well and that scene with Coach and his daughter is really touching

I’m on the Cheers train as well.

I really thought I’d see all of these but so many eps in the first three seasons are new to me. I guess I started watching in real time w my parents right after Frasier arrived and before Coach passed, and maybe caught some of the earlier episodes in reruns through the years. As noted numerous times in this thread, Danson and Long are just phenomenal. This round I’m really enjoying Carla more than I remember. Watching her occasionally physically bully these large dudes just kills me. That scene with her kicking the shit out of Sam in his office is perfection.

think I started watching it during the original run at same time you did. there are a lot of early episodes that I think I just never saw until netflix.

Just got to the first appearance of Ma Clavin - where he tries to marry her off to a rich old guy in the bar.

Also the guy playing him later turned up as Leonard in Community, meaning he'd been playing old giffers for at least 30 years. He died last year :(

Weird thing that occurs to me while I am watching this is that most of the principle actors were younger than I am now.: in the first season, Long was 33; Danson was 35; Perlman, Ratzenberger, and Wendt were a mere 34. Everyone on this program always seemed so much older, somehow (but I will concede it is likely because I was six years old when this show first aired).

Also, (thank you, Wikipedia), am I the only one that never realized that Coach was in fucking Raging Bull?!

... and directed a couple episodes of Columbo - the one with John Cassavetes as a conductor and... the one with Johnny Cash!

there's a nice bit in one of the articles listed above where, when woody showed up, all the dudes pushing 40 were like 'let's kick his ass!' and instead got repeatedly owned

lol yes

I think they also tried keeping up with his drinking/casual drug use and got destroyed

maybe not Kelsey, he was always kind of an ongoing experiment in self-destruction

With the exception of Danson they all look older than mid-30s.

They probably were. Actors always lie about their ages.

i feel woody harrelson owns everyone just by his character being called woody tbh