Language is the source of misunderstandings
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
Interpretation is the source of misunderstandings
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
And everything we perceive is an interpretation.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
the amount of info we can convey with language across even the noisiest channels should make you weep with joy each morning upon waking, it's probably one of the most amazing things in the entire universe. and all the various things people complain about are, for the most part, manifestations of an underlying playfulness that is essential to making language work as well as it does.
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
otm
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
Unnecessary stains upon silence and nothingness iirc.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
if humans didn't have language, and therefore expressive silence, then the universe could not ignore itself
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
It would ignore itself passively rather than actively. A more consummate ignorance.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
dude
― reality disliker (Left), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
Cats have expressive silence, imo
― jmm, Monday, 13 April 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
booming post f hazel
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
is not the dance of the celestial bodies itself a form of
― reality disliker (Left), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
to gainsay Beckett is to agree with him, to do it out loud is a point for language. whatever else, he did give Andre the Giant rides to school from time to time.
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
'I love the word, words have been my only loves, not many.'
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
xp In his little pick-up truck, no less. One of the defining images of the last century, surely?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
Anyhow, to ground one's apologia in dialectics is to err on the side of language by default, for better or for worse (usually both).
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
adulting
fuck right off.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
yeah I hate that one
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link
Heyday of “adulting” is a couple years in the past lucky for you
― silby, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:49 (four years ago) link
where, it's still said all the time. my most recent ex used to say "adulting" and "sportsball" all the time, which drove me insane.
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
(not why I broke up with her tho)
'Adulting' is a bona fide abomination. Nor has it vanished completely, alas.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
"aspirational"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 04:48 (four years ago) link
I like how it could also mean "makes you feel like vomiting"
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link
Not quite - aspiration of vomit is when you inadvertently breathe it in (sorry for the tmi)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 05:30 (four years ago) link
i aspire to vomit
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link
better things aren't possible
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
We are saddened to learn that Legendary Wrestling Ring Announcer, Howard Finkel has passed away at the age of 69.
^^^this comma
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 April 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
that is not a good usage of commaswhen in doubt, leave it out!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
As someone who has never really been taught the fundamentals of grammar (it seemed less than an afterthought in 80s Britain) commas make me want to cry - I simultaneously over and underuse them. When students ask me, I manufacture an excuse and look the other way.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
Originally a comma was merely a clue to one who was reading aloud that the author recommended a pause to be inserted at that point. More rigorous 'rules' for their use are not rules of grammar per se, but only strictures placed on upon usage, which may be safely ignored in any writing not governed by a manual of style, as imposed by an editor.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link
yeah if you read any 18th/19th century lit, it's commas all over the damn place... we live in an age of comma minimalism
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 17 April 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
Sometimes commas call attention to themselves; sometimes they fade into the background and you hardly notice them.
They have come and gone in English usage. They're kinda like... a comma chameleon.
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:49 (four years ago) link
why do people adopt awful new slang so eagerly?
CRINGESHOWING THEIR WHOLE ASSSAYING THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD
Why are you saying these things in these ways? No one did a few months ago. Why are you now?
"Social distancing" would absolutely apply if it weren't incredibly important at the moment
remember what Laurie Anderson said: LANGUAGE IS A VIRUS!
― flappy bird, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
fwiw people have said those things for years now
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
also they're all good
― mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link
"showing their ass" appears in fuckin Reservoir Dogs
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
"Cringe" is slang? I've using that for decades (I cringe a lot). But your basic point is the fundamental question of this thread: what motivates people to start using some dumb phrase everybody else is suddenly using? It should work in exactly the opposite way.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
"been using"
they mean cringe in this formulation: "this entire thread is cringe"
― mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link
If it's being used as a noun now, then yes, that is annoying.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
this thread is now basically "new school slang u don't like"
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
i hate it, i've said this many times in this thread
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link
it's meant to be annoying, it's a mocking criticism
― mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
saying the quiet part loud is over two decades old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHt481HsFU
― Number None, Sunday, 19 April 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link
This has been around since 1950:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 April 2020 09:06 (four years ago) link
language isn't enough of a virus imo
― mark s, Sunday, 19 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link
(xpost) Honestly didn't know that--I've never heard it used that way ever. Is that more of a British thing?
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link
yes if by british you mean australian
― mark s, Sunday, 19 April 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link
They have more to cringe about. Probably not. I first heard the phrase used in connection with Scotland of course!
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 April 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link