But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

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That sucks, I was going to replace my piece of shit Apple TV with a Roku soon.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:27 (five years ago)

I guess I have to buy an Apple TV now? I mean, I guess that’s the cheaper option as opposed to buying a new gaming platform. Frustrating.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:34 (five years ago)

Yeah I was wondering about tha lack of Roku. (I'm not entirely fussed, I ended up with HBO via AT&T being my cell provider so HBO Max is just a free addon as far as I'm concerned.) Various articles about it today, including this:

https://www.cnet.com/news/warnermedia-has-hbo-max-apps-ready-for-amazon-and-roku/

I did appreciate all the Twitter chatter about how deep the various hubs actually are on the service -- namely, not entirely:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/before-subscribing-to-hbo-max-nerds-might-want-to-take-1843702700

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:40 (five years ago)

That said, TCM and all the classic WB cartoon stuff being in place = works for me!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:46 (five years ago)

xxp - I had a NVidia Shield TV that worked great before a power surge blew it up.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:08 (five years ago)

That sucks, I was going to replace my piece of shit Apple TV with a Roku soon.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z),

come on

Dan S, Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:33 (five years ago)

Both of my current gen Apple TVs have been incapable of maintaining a decent wifi speed. One couldn’t even maintain non-buffering speeds over Ethernet. They also need restarting more than any streaming device I’ve owned.

Never owning another AppleTV.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 05:09 (five years ago)

we watched the first ep of The Great tnite -- fun!

Mordy, Thursday, 28 May 2020 05:12 (five years ago)

I don't know, I've had my share of connection problems but I don't think that it's been about Apple TV. I had to have somebody come in and make a direct cable connection to the room I was viewing in, that made a difference

Dan S, Thursday, 28 May 2020 05:18 (five years ago)

i used a plug-in wifi extender from netgear and it helped immensely. I don't get how these things work (they leverage the power circuit in your house); prior to this I always had buffering issues with appletv and wifi. but I had worse problems with the Roku I had (which was older).

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:47 (five years ago)

I have an Orbi, the main unit is in the living room plugged into the modem. The satellite is in the bedroom, ethernet connected to my AppleTV there. My thinking is that the satellite is getting a better signal however it does and by using the ethernet cable there the AppleTV isn't using wifi at all.

but I'm out at the inlaws now and appleTV is on WIFI and it's fine.

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:00 (five years ago)

ORBI uses 5G (!) to connect the main unit to the satellite so it should be a very fast connection between them. from there a wired connection should give you no speed penalty - so yes, a good solution. (i have an ORBI setup too and like it a lot)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:05 (five years ago)

my apple tv works flawlessly

orbi uses 5GHz range, not 5G iirc

mh, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:07 (five years ago)

5g fuck! Why didn’t anybody warn me. Gonna rip that shit out and just run Ethernet everywhere.

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:08 (five years ago)

oh yeah, the only apple tv issue I ever had was when I got the 4k one and the remote seemed unresponsive and some videos would freeze up

it turns out it was my older hdmi cable not handling 4k well, and all the error correction going on was overloading it!

mh, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:09 (five years ago)

lol yes sorry - not 5G

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:24 (five years ago)

HBO Max is really clunky. I thought they might spend the time to improve on what HBO Now was, but it's basically the same thing with more content. And a lot of the content that's there isn't presented well compared to other services.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:38 (five years ago)

(But Looney Tunes)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

I guess the clunkiness won't bother me, it's already sub-optimal to have to only watch on my phone or laptop. Figure I'll give them a few more weeks to hopefully iron their shit out with Roku, or else I'll end up canceling. I know it all comes down to money, but at least Disney had the good sense to hammer these deals out before launch.

Early to tell yet, but this HBO Max launch feels like a relative dud, compared to Disney+ at least. Even aside from shutting off roughly 70% of their market by not finalizing deals with Roku and Amazon, I keep reading complaints about how little material are in the hubs, as Ned noted upthread. Apparently the DC stuff on offer is way less than what people had expected. Other than the scattered folks excited for Looney Tunes or Studio Ghibli, I'm reading more complaints about what the service is lacking than any sort of excitement. Doubt this is the narrative they hoped for after launch.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

only thing that got me slightly interested was hearing they have a lot of alan partridge content

na (NA), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:05 (five years ago)

I feel the exact opposite, we just got HBO Max and there's an absolute treasure trove of stuff I'd want to watch on here relative to Disney+. (But we get it free with AT&T internet, I wouldn't pony $15/mo for it.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:19 (five years ago)

Same. TCM and Looney Tunes plus HBO content beats the shit out of D+

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:57 (five years ago)

Hold up, I have ATT Internet (1000), does that mean I get HBO Max? What is the difference between HBO Max and HBO Now? Also, I have a Roku smart TV, does that mean even if I get it for free I ... can't watch it? Where do they expect me to watch HBO Max, on my computer?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:16 (five years ago)

Yes to all that for now, in essence. But at the least, yeah, you should be able to get HBO Max for free.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:32 (five years ago)

So weird, I'm trying to sign in via my PS4, but it's not letting me. To customer service I go!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:40 (five years ago)

OK, ATT confirms yes, but their sign-in system is currently broken.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

I was hoping my mobile plan would qualify me, but no dice

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:04 (five years ago)

Mission accomplished, got it working. I'm not sure I even would have known this was a service were it not for ILX (even though I get it for free, or at least "free"). There's some good stuff, most conspicuously a ton of stuff I have ... not legally downloaded over the past several months.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:30 (five years ago)

Just got a note from Comcast that I get free Peacock. Any good stuff on there?

DJI, Friday, 29 May 2020 01:32 (five years ago)

37 seasons of Law and Order SVU

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 02:21 (five years ago)

Ha I am just seeing your dn

I am taking full credit for this

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 29 May 2020 02:39 (five years ago)

Mythic Quest is like a big budget 2009 web-series.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 03:40 (five years ago)

I love it

DJI, Friday, 29 May 2020 03:48 (five years ago)

it's rapidly improving after the second episode

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 05:37 (five years ago)

That show doesn't really get much better or worse.

As for HBO Max, it's pretty obvious that all of these streaming services surely know how to better optimize and organize their interface, they just for whatever reason choose not to. For example, down on the bottom of the start screen they have a handful of thematic groupings (like TCM, or Ghibli, or Looney Tunes, etc.). Click on TCM and they give you (iirc) the option to see featured titles vs. A-Z, but A-Z is not even remotely comprehensive. That is, they'll have Babe in the mix, but if you want to see Babe 2 you have to search for it. Similarly, along with Casablanca and Seven Samurai and the like there are seemingly random '80s movies like Police Academy, but if you want to see Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol (because, duh, of course you do) you have to search for that separately, too. And then, just searching for other stuff, I see literally *zero* Mad Max movies, which is a problem. None of the Matrix movies are up there, none of the Christopher Nolan movies, only a couple of Kubrick's ... hopefully this will all work out, maybe they're just waiting for rights to revert before declaring "mine!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

I saw a listicle of some missing movies. For example, the Christopher Reeve Superman (despite DC superheroes getting their own section). Matrix movies apparently were even in the HBO Max trailer, but right now all three are on Netflix. No "Exorcist," confirmed no "Mad Max," no Nolan (Nolan Batmans were reportedly also in the HBO Max ad), no Austin Powers, no Blade Runner, no Iron Giant, the first and third but not second (!) Hobbit movie ...

Actually, just saw this:

As can be seen above, HBO Max's launch line-up is missing a whopping 57 movies and TV shows advertised as launch titles in their past press releases. One wonders if these titles were ever actually planned for launch, or some type of confusion caused them to be mistakenly listed as such. It looks like several of them might be added soon, as they're set to expire from rival streaming services, and presumably all will end up on HBO Max before the end of the 2020. Either way, the fact that Warner Media has gone back and retroactively scrubbed these titles from its press materials suggests they're a bit embarrassed about the mix-up.

So probably just a matter of corporate dicks tripping over their corporate dicks. More weirdness summed up here: https://www.theverge.com/21272149/hbo-max-catalog-streaming-tv-movies-library-content-missing .

As a service, HBO Max offers you a lot but promises little. In its marketing, it tells you what you can expect (Batman Begins was in its promotional ads), but not when to expect it (none of Nolan’s Batman films are on the service).

Who even knows when or if smaller or classic MIA movies will show. Like "McCabe and Mrs. Miller?" I want to watch that now!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:51 (five years ago)

Oh, wait, apparently June: https://www.slashfilm.com/movies-coming-to-hbo-max-in-june-2020/

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 17:51 (five years ago)

How many Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies are on HBO Max? Wikipedia says there are 1000+ shorts in total...I'm sure a lot have been left off for racism...

Irritable Baal (WmC), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:19 (five years ago)

the director's cut of Doctor Sleep is NOT good lol

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

Max has Looney Tunes organized very oddly. For example, Season 1 lists three episodes:

Ep 1: Smile, Darn Ya, Smile! (1931)
Ep 4: Hollywood Capers (1935)
Ep 5: I Haven't Got a Hat (1935)

A lot or all of the seasons also appear to have episodes missing like that.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:43 (five years ago)

I think it’s based on seasons from a syndicated Looney Tunes show?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 20:58 (five years ago)

xp WmC, you are thinking of the Censored Eleven:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censored_Eleven

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 22:46 (five years ago)

I figured they would put up the historical notice about these being "products of their time" like they do on the DVDs, but I guess they didn't want to bother

Nhex, Friday, 29 May 2020 22:53 (five years ago)

lol I have an uncanny gift for zeroing right in on what HBO Max is missing. "Edge of Tomorrow!" No. "Unforgiven!" No.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 22:56 (five years ago)

xxp -- yeah. I read about them when I bought a copy of the LT Golden Collection but had forgotten the name for the group.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Friday, 29 May 2020 23:06 (five years ago)

Missing in what way?

massage angry pixels (sic), Friday, 29 May 2020 23:34 (five years ago)

"Missing" in that they are high-profile WB properties that I would expect to be on HBO Max.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2020 23:59 (five years ago)

I don't think there's any reason to assume that any given feature film theatrically distributed by Warner Bros Pictures is a) currently not licensed to any other home video or broadcast entities and b) would be on HBO Max if it weren't, tbh

massage angry pixels (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2020 22:50 (five years ago)

As pointed out upthread, there are several titles that were featured in the lead up fanfare that aren't available as part of the launch, which at the very least we can agree is shitty on the part of WB.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 May 2020 23:16 (five years ago)

I understand that not everything can be available, but Unforgiven, for example, stars one of the most high-profile frequent Warner Brothers actors ever, in a movie that cleaned up at the Academy Awards. I'm not even sure it's on any streaming service right now.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 May 2020 23:52 (five years ago)


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