rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

Xpost It also mentions Trump refusing to concede, and concession isn't legally required. Roy Moore never conceded in Alabama, Doug Jones was still certified. It's just a formality.

everyone, look out on the streets tonight: granny dainger isn't afraid of proud boys with baseball bats and the police, because that's just what they want. so they're going go kick some proud boy ass tonight. thanks for standing up for us!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not scared of anyone and have the scars to prove it, so fuck off

Can we not do this, GD

I am definitely not "not afraid" of far-right wing hate groups or the rest of the country that's armed to the teeth. I may not be worried about Trump refusing to leave office or shit that could happen 6 months from now, but i am afraid of the lunatic violent right wing kooks that are in the street right now, and the cops that let them slide cos "lol libs"

Good, get out there and take care of business rambo

woah i didn't realize cottonwood arizona was like a wesley snipes movie

granny come on, you're perennially worried that trail runners are breaking their ankles i don't think you're a black belt

Articles like Vox seem to assume all that's required for him to keep his office is that he says "hell no, i won't go", and by virtue of enough Republican politicians saying "we agree", boom, he keeps his job.

Lol, someone was born after Nov. 2000. Enough Republicans = 5 very specific ones if things are close enough.

We need Biden to win convincingly so that even if there are 1-2 close/disputed races, everyone can shrug and say it wouldn't make a difference. Plus, I just want to see Trump emasculated.

whats gonna suck is the massively increased # of mail in ballots delaying the results for several days

except that they will actually get counted for once?

Lol, someone was born after Nov. 2000. Enough Republicans = 5 very specific ones if things are close enough.

We need Biden to win convincingly so that even if there are 1-2 close/disputed races, everyone can shrug and say it wouldn't make a difference. Plus, I just want to see Trump emasculated.

― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Thursday, June 4, 2020 5:26 PM bookmarkflaglink

I'm 39, motherfucker, and I live in Florida. You think I don't remember that election?

whats gonna suck is the massively increased # of mail in ballots delaying the results for several days

Yeah, I'm dreading the thought of the night of November 8, 2016 dragging out for a week instead.

It's perfectly reasonable and rational to fear armed men who roam the streets and attack unarmed people with impunity while the police look the other way. That's sort of the definition of the kind of thing a normal person fears.

it's not about what white men think, though. it doesn't matter how scared i am or you are about the proud boys. they're not targeting me. so when people ARE scared, and it's the very people they're targeting, it's more than appropriate to take them seriously - it is necessary. it's the least we can do, to take at least listen and take it seriously. actually, the least we can do is mock the concern entirely and advise scared, targeted people to fight back, without being right there next to them to back up words with actions

that's what's pissing me off. missing the forest for the trees, a life

Besides, that is very different than what is being described. SCOTUS didn't unilaterally step in and overturn election results. They ruled on a recount in one state.

Gore lost Florida on the initial count and the state-mandated recount (largely because of two counties that didn't complete their recount on time, which meant going with their original results). He tried to contest the results, originally got the Florida Supreme Court to grant a recount of undervotes, before SCOTUS overruled the lower court and sent it back to them mere hours before the deadline.

That's a fairly far cry from Trump going I LOST BUT I THINK A LOT OF ILLEGAL PEOPLE VOTED SO I SHOULD BE PRESIDENT, and SCOTUS ruling "ok, yr still President". They couldn't do that if they wanted to. There isn't any framework for it.

But if there's a dispute in a specific State and a candidate is contesting a result, yeah, they can rule on the legal ramifications of a State Supreme Court ordered recount.

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Who are we arguing with at this point? GD stopped posting and I said above I am scared of these hate groups (well ok, I said not "not afraid", which is the same thing).

I am afraid of people in the street that yell "hey" at me, much less armed hate groups

I think there's a difference between "fear" and being terrified, fwiw. Fear is an appropriate response to something dangerous. Being terrified is what happens when you are completely powerless against the dangerous thing. I don't think we should believe we are completely powerless at this point.

xpost i don't know, not with you though! i think it's mainly because i mentioned the proud boys stuff yesterday (not on ilx), that same incident, and got a very similar, dismissive reaction. from a white guy, of course. so mainly i'm here yelling at clouds now

Yeah i think fear of the Proud Boys is nothing to make light of for sure!

Thinking that two people who are confronted with seven baseball bat wielding people, surrounding and threatening them, won't be "scared" because they can simply decide not to feel fear is beyond ridiculous.

thanks! i needed to hear that, even though it seemed obvious. sometimes i feel like i am losing my mind

Sorry Neanderthal, just meant it as gentle ribbing.

I'm just saying I'm not really worried about Trump in a Tony Montana scenario in the White House, I'm worried about a close election being thrown to the Supreme Court.

it's ok, was exhausted after a long day of training. sorry for being mr blunt force :/

We're good.

"Well I hate Biden, and Trump is obviously not going to give up the White House even if he loses, so what's the point".

is the second part here really a thing? People are saying they won't vote because they don't expect Trump to leave if he loses? This is the first I'm hearing this.

This thread is in essence a lot of white male writhing.

I mean it might not be a national 'thing', but it's definitely a 'thing' i've seen in quarters recently. though the real reason they won't vote is cos Bernie lost, they don't like Biden, and they think Biden has no chance (or that even if he wins, Trump will never leave)

iow, a bunch of rationalizing

xxpost Feel like there should at least be some Erasure throbbing in the background or something.

Give this thread no credit for writhing.

People are saying they won't vote because they don't expect Trump to leave if he loses? This is the first I'm hearing this.

I hadn’t heard this either. It is a supremely dumb attitude. If Trump loses the election, he is leaving.

if he loses we get to throw tomatoes at him until he gets removed from the white house by one of those offstage cartoon canes

It will be a beautiful day.

I mean I know he absolutely loves being on TV all the time but I've never seen a more miserable looking president in my life

the chestburster's been tryin to get out for 3 years

why would you waste tomatoes I can use in one of my lunch wraps

throw human waste at trump on his way out of office

Like throwing bricks at a brick wall afaict

always got that huffy pouty look of a toddler who knows you know he's lying, but trying to bluff it out

this whole thing is crazy right? https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

pretty cursed

does it make you feel better or worse to know that "obama will refuse to step down after his terms end" was a staple of hysterical right-wing fantasy?

talking about how a President could retain power due to using voter disenfranchisement is a worthy discussion.

talking about how a President could retain power in the context of shitty Tom Clancy fanfic that has zero chance of materializing is not only tedious by now, but should be read by nobody.

I blame umair haque for its resurgence, fair or not.

like I seriously want to know what people get out of it. It's not "telling uncomfortable truths" because it's not based in any fact, just unhinged speculation. and it's described in ways that clearly indicate that the "people" would have no way of stopping it, and it keeps imploring people to "act now", but how can you "act now" against a threat that nobody has actually made?

umair haque is such a worthless idiot. I read one or two of his interminable Medium posts and couldn't believe I had wasted time I could have spent watching actual pornography.

if we do manage to beat this motherfucker i am luxuriating in the certainty that none of the republicans will learn the tiniest thing from it. they won’t reflect on the unpopularity of their policies with the broader electorate. they’ll find excuses in the pandemic. good.

xxpost and almost every one of these writings seems to come from people that think Trump could steal the election by calling Mr SCOTUS on teh phone and saying "I disagree with the results" and them replying "OVERTURNED, UR STILL PRESIDENT". or that he could snap his fingers and the entire US Army will show up