rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

I think there's a difference between "fear" and being terrified, fwiw. Fear is an appropriate response to something dangerous. Being terrified is what happens when you are completely powerless against the dangerous thing. I don't think we should believe we are completely powerless at this point.

xpost i don't know, not with you though! i think it's mainly because i mentioned the proud boys stuff yesterday (not on ilx), that same incident, and got a very similar, dismissive reaction. from a white guy, of course. so mainly i'm here yelling at clouds now

Yeah i think fear of the Proud Boys is nothing to make light of for sure!

Thinking that two people who are confronted with seven baseball bat wielding people, surrounding and threatening them, won't be "scared" because they can simply decide not to feel fear is beyond ridiculous.

thanks! i needed to hear that, even though it seemed obvious. sometimes i feel like i am losing my mind

Sorry Neanderthal, just meant it as gentle ribbing.

I'm just saying I'm not really worried about Trump in a Tony Montana scenario in the White House, I'm worried about a close election being thrown to the Supreme Court.

it's ok, was exhausted after a long day of training. sorry for being mr blunt force :/

We're good.

"Well I hate Biden, and Trump is obviously not going to give up the White House even if he loses, so what's the point".

is the second part here really a thing? People are saying they won't vote because they don't expect Trump to leave if he loses? This is the first I'm hearing this.

This thread is in essence a lot of white male writhing.

I mean it might not be a national 'thing', but it's definitely a 'thing' i've seen in quarters recently. though the real reason they won't vote is cos Bernie lost, they don't like Biden, and they think Biden has no chance (or that even if he wins, Trump will never leave)

iow, a bunch of rationalizing

xxpost Feel like there should at least be some Erasure throbbing in the background or something.

Give this thread no credit for writhing.

People are saying they won't vote because they don't expect Trump to leave if he loses? This is the first I'm hearing this.

I hadn’t heard this either. It is a supremely dumb attitude. If Trump loses the election, he is leaving.

if he loses we get to throw tomatoes at him until he gets removed from the white house by one of those offstage cartoon canes

It will be a beautiful day.

I mean I know he absolutely loves being on TV all the time but I've never seen a more miserable looking president in my life

the chestburster's been tryin to get out for 3 years

why would you waste tomatoes I can use in one of my lunch wraps

throw human waste at trump on his way out of office

Like throwing bricks at a brick wall afaict

always got that huffy pouty look of a toddler who knows you know he's lying, but trying to bluff it out

this whole thing is crazy right? https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

pretty cursed

does it make you feel better or worse to know that "obama will refuse to step down after his terms end" was a staple of hysterical right-wing fantasy?

talking about how a President could retain power due to using voter disenfranchisement is a worthy discussion.

talking about how a President could retain power in the context of shitty Tom Clancy fanfic that has zero chance of materializing is not only tedious by now, but should be read by nobody.

I blame umair haque for its resurgence, fair or not.

like I seriously want to know what people get out of it. It's not "telling uncomfortable truths" because it's not based in any fact, just unhinged speculation. and it's described in ways that clearly indicate that the "people" would have no way of stopping it, and it keeps imploring people to "act now", but how can you "act now" against a threat that nobody has actually made?

umair haque is such a worthless idiot. I read one or two of his interminable Medium posts and couldn't believe I had wasted time I could have spent watching actual pornography.

if we do manage to beat this motherfucker i am luxuriating in the certainty that none of the republicans will learn the tiniest thing from it. they won’t reflect on the unpopularity of their policies with the broader electorate. they’ll find excuses in the pandemic. good.

xxpost and almost every one of these writings seems to come from people that think Trump could steal the election by calling Mr SCOTUS on teh phone and saying "I disagree with the results" and them replying "OVERTURNED, UR STILL PRESIDENT". or that he could snap his fingers and the entire US Army will show up

Tracer brings wisdom

none of the republicans will learn the tiniest thing from it. they won’t reflect on the unpopularity of their policies with the broader electorate. they’ll find excuses in the pandemic. good

And in the inevitable howls of "mAiL VotE Fraud!!!eleventy!!!"

I tend to agree that they will double down on the three-legged stool of white grievance, crony capitalism, and evangelical death-cult shit.

Remember the Obama-era "postmortem" report where the GOP was like, "hey maybe we need some outreach to minorities and woman?" Didn't happen, of course - but I don't think the broad R camp could even be able to formulate thoughts like that anymore (apart from yr fringey George Conway types whom everyone hates).

While I'm not in the mood to rule out anything at this point, it seems like that entire newsweek spec fic piece hinges on this sentence, which is just doing way too much work:

Attorney General William Barr, known for his extremist view of the expanse of presidential power, is widely believed to be developing a Justice Department opinion arguing that the president can exercise emergency powers in certain national security situations, while stating that the courts, being extremely reluctant to intervene in the sphere of a national security emergency, would allow the president to proceed unchecked.

"Widely believed" by whom? And who is the subject of "while stating that the courts..."?

newsweek's really gone to shit huh

I am 95% sure that this is mostly a fantasy, however that 5% chance of being a hubristic fool is enough to stop me tempting fate and mocking the article.

does it make you feel better or worse to know that "obama will refuse to step down after his terms end" was a staple of hysterical right-wing fantasy?

― Mordy

worse. conservatives, and especially trump people, have a habit of projecting their own desires onto their enemies. they were worried that obama would refuse to step down because they can easily imagine a scenario where their own favorited candidate (*cough cough, trump*) refused to step down.

i had Republicans telling me Kerry was "dictator material" in 2004

i then schooled them and asked them how my dic-tate

I thought we all new that current day Newsweek was click farm crap like forbes.com

Remember the Obama-era "postmortem" report where the GOP was like, "hey maybe we need some outreach to minorities and woman?" Didn't happen, of course

And turned out they did not, in fact, need to do that. Repeated lesson for republicans in recent decades has been, don't give an inch, just get more mad, and the pendulum will swing back soon enough

The Democratic Party needs to sort the fuck out of its nominating procedure

Hillary in 2016, and Joe this time.

Brilliant work everyone

is that a leftover post from February?

It's evergreen my friend

The pendulum keeps swinging back because we keep sucking

Hold on, Biden is a Catholic? How did he slip through the net?

If only my dad was still around he'd be on the first plane to the States to campaign for Biden in person.

Alfred I realise I'm not breaking any ground here but I see this as a venting thread of sorts

I'm just beyond fed up with the national party

And turned out they did not, in fact, need to do that. Repeated lesson for republicans in recent decades has been, don't give an inch, just get more mad, and the pendulum will swing back soon enough

― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins)

republicans haven't read poe

last word's redundant

Vent away!