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They're losing a whole bunch of other stuff, too, but gaining a bunch of random stuff as well

so exactly like netflix every month

and... the HBO network, historically

I mean, yes, but ... come on, I'm not captain save-a-service here, but this is a new streaming service that happened to launch during a pandemic when people are as close to literally being stuck inside as they'll ever be, sold on the basis of a few marquee titles (many of them kid-friendly): DC superheroes, Harry Potter, etc. Harry Potter gets its own *section* on the home page. So yeah, Netflix loses stuff all the time, but not stuff promoted as *exclusives*. I get that there are licensing agreements that send these titles all over the place, but then what's the point of an HBO Max streaming service if its only exclusives are HBO shows?

It’s the same price as HBO Now was so anything beyond what HBO was is a bonus.

the point is that it has enough stuff at any given time to keep you suckered in. if that stops being true for you just unsubscribe.

honestly netflix seems to have made the constant churn work for them, ime they advertise the crap out of movies the month they arrive and the month they leave. all they have to do is keep that FOMO mechanism triggered in everyone's brains and most people won't complain, even though they lose more than they gain every month. most people are mainly sticking around for their tv shows anyway! sounds like a business model to emulate

I don't pay for HBO Max, I get it "free"with my cable. The thing that irks me the most is the titles it boasted of at launch that it's already losing, for whatever reason. I've never seen a Netflix ad, nor have I seen anything other than Netflix produced titles dangled out as subscription enticements. But I did see ads for HBO Max and stuff like Harry Potter was heavily promoted, making its reported disappearance just a couple of months later really odd. And yeah, I do get it, shitty companies being shitty, true to form, what else is new. Doesn't make it out of bounds for complaints, imo.

Like, each of the streaming services, they've got to have some stable staples right? what if, for example, the criterion channel lost everything by Bergman or Kurosawa? that would be nuts.

it's not shitty companies being shitty, it's license periods having finite terms. streaming services' only perennials are the material that they own.

The Criterion Channel has existed for less than fifteen months, so it's probably a little premature to speculate about what would be nuts for them to stop signing new deals to license over and over every two or three years for 20 years, regardless of whether anyone has watched it in the previous year, or ten years.

you do seem to be the only person who has seen any ads for HBO Max anywhere tbf. No idea what its interface is like, but HBO Go has "new this month" and "leaving this month" as permanent features on the home page.

why would they need stable staples? they don't need to have anything more than they think they do to keep investors investing. apparently catalogue instability hasn't been a deterrent. (and again, there IS stability when it comes to shows and movies they produce)

i'm not saying you don't have a right to complain but i'm definitely saying you don't have a right to be flabbergasted by it anymore. publicly traded companies don't care if they make sense to you or not. they don't care about you at all!

xp

i also haven't seen ads for it. when i talk about netflix "advertising" i mean the movies they push the most when you're logged in.

I'm not flabbergasted, I'm just surprised to see such high profile titles leave so soon.

Honestly I think these news services are just scrambling for a belated piece of the pie.

HBO has had a streaming service for five years, Max was just a bungled attempt to control their ratings data by launching a third app that wasn't available third-party

Exactly. Operative word being "bungled," which is the source of my armchair surprise.

Harry Potter, iiuc, is heading to ... NBC/Universal until 2023?

who curr

All the Harry Potter movies should be walled off on their own pay service, and the names of anyone who signs up for it made public, so they can be shunned by civilized people.

The shunning of shithoused millennials.

Operative word being "bungled,"

the bungling is in expecting people to switch back to streaming from their computers to their televisions, when the field has become based on in-device or plug-in apps, not in magically removing the entire concept of copyright from the world!

in magically failing to remove the entire concept of copyright from etc, I bungled my attempt at that post

binged Indian Matchmaker this afternoon. very light. enjoyed it, and came to like almost everybody on it. surprising hits of lots of colorism, ablism and mental illness.

You/we all can defend/criticize HBO Max all we want, but apparently the bungling goes deep:

HBO Max is off to a slow start. In its first month, the service that debuted May 27 garnered just under 3 million new sign ups while only about 1 million existing HBO subscribers have accessed the HBO Max app, which is free to all HBO subscribers https://t.co/fpP71Nk1Os

— Variety (@Variety) July 23, 2020

doesn't work with roku or fire!

I was about to say.

Definitely doesn't help!

TS: launching without a deal with Roku or Amazon vs. launching exclusively as a cell phone only streaming service.

tbf "launching without a deal with Roku or Amazon" is the exact specific bungling I originally cited, not a new, deeper level of bungling.

in australia the only way to get anything like hbo max is to give money to rupert murdoch, which is probably fine if you like funding neonazi oligarchs

btw quibi still exists somehow

We laugh now, but next week when the Emmy nominations come out, just you wait.

They should stream the Emmys exclusively on phones.

Golden Arms For Everyone!

U-God to host!

with musical performances by Canibus and a-ha

Exploring Peacock now, it's crazy how much random shit has landed there. Bunch of Hitchcock and Marx Brothers, but also, say, Sleepaway Camp, Topsy-Survey, Wild Style and the Universal Monster movies. Interface is the typical mess, of course, unless you know exactly what you're looking for. (Yeah yeah, I know, JustWatch.)

Today I learned neither Blade Runner 2049 nor All About Eve are currently included in any streaming service.

AAE is Fox, so Disney's burying it in favor of a Demi Lovato reboot.

BR-2049 is rentable for $9.99 from Bezos Junior Samples Prime

Also: Hee Haw isn't streaming anywhere!

These movies are almost always rentable. Except Better Off Dead, which is not available to rent or stream or anything, full stop, afaict.

What is Lost Highway doing in Peacock? It was October Films, but I'm trying to untangle this knot:

October Films was a major U.S. independent film production company and distributor founded in 1991 by Bingham Ray and Jeff Lipsky as a means of distributing the 1990 film Life Is Sweet.

A series of mergers and acquisitions began when Universal Pictures (then a division of the Seagram Company) bought a majority stake in October Films in 1997. Universal then sold its shares to Barry Diller in 1999, who renamed the company USA Films and merged it with Gramercy Pictures. Vivendi then acquired USA Films, who in 2002 acquired Good Machine and merged it with USA Films, forming Focus Features.

Sometimes I think Hollywood is just a system of money laundering.

Blade Runner 2049 is on Prime here in the UK

Focus Features is owned by Universal.

Also: Yes on your money laundering theory.

BR2049 is on TV (seemingly) every other week here - Sony movies, freeview ch32

standard disclaimer note that 65% of everything not available on streaming services is available on torrents BUT HOW DO YOU GET THEM TORRENTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhTomqDTzE

btw, i posted this on "rolling race" but it should maybe be here too: Black Journal is newly available to the public for streaming.

https://americanarchive.org/catalog?f%5Baccess_types%5D%5B%5D=online&f%5Bseries_titles%5D%5B%5D=Black+Journal&sort=episode_number_sort+asc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7g9ROouhpQ

In the spring of 1968, the nation was reeling from protests in hundreds of cities in response to the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., racial inequality and school segregation, and the Vietnam War. Media reports on these issues came from white-dominated network news programs.
It was at this crucial moment that New York City’s National Educational Television (NET), the precursor to WNET and the PBS network, launched the public television series Black Journal, produced by Black talents. Premiering on June 12, 1968, the first episode included the recently widowed Coretta Scott King speaking that very day at Harvard University, a progress report on Dr. Martin Luther King’s Poor People’s Campaign, and a study of the African American political reaction to Robert Kennedy’s assassination, which had occurred that week.
Black Journal’s broadcasts spanned 1968 to 1977 and 59 episodes from the series are available to stream for the first time, thanks to The WNET Group’s participation in The American Archive of Public Broadcasting.

https://www.thirteen.org/blog-post/historic-black-journal-streams-for-the-first-time/

xpost Oh, I torrent like crazy. In fact, what often happens is that I torrent something, don't get around to watching it, then see it's popped up on a streaming service, so I delete my torrent but then don't get around to the streaming service until it's left the service, and so have to torrent again.

Speaking of which, here's something I can't figure out. Netflix (US) has the first four seasons of Better Call Saul, so I ... acquired S5 elsewhere. But the copies I got start with the Netflix insignia and noise and then designate the show a Netflix Original Series. I think I saw that Netflix is the exclusive video-on-demand provider in some territories, or that they've bought the rights in others, but does that allow them to call it a Netflix Original Series, when it's neither exclusive to Netflix not, afaict, produced or paid for by Netflix?

I torrent something, don't get around to watching it, then see it's popped up on a streaming service, so I delete my torrent but then don't get around to the streaming service until it's left the service, and so have to torrent again.

Netflix have always done that Josh xp

Amazon tend to differentiate with Amazon Original and Amazon Exclusive

(Also all seasons of BCS are on Netflix in the uk)