But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

HBO has had a streaming service for five years, Max was just a bungled attempt to control their ratings data by launching a third app that wasn't available third-party

Exactly. Operative word being "bungled," which is the source of my armchair surprise.

Harry Potter, iiuc, is heading to ... NBC/Universal until 2023?

who curr

All the Harry Potter movies should be walled off on their own pay service, and the names of anyone who signs up for it made public, so they can be shunned by civilized people.

The shunning of shithoused millennials.

Operative word being "bungled,"

the bungling is in expecting people to switch back to streaming from their computers to their televisions, when the field has become based on in-device or plug-in apps, not in magically removing the entire concept of copyright from the world!

in magically failing to remove the entire concept of copyright from etc, I bungled my attempt at that post

binged Indian Matchmaker this afternoon. very light. enjoyed it, and came to like almost everybody on it. surprising hits of lots of colorism, ablism and mental illness.

You/we all can defend/criticize HBO Max all we want, but apparently the bungling goes deep:

HBO Max is off to a slow start. In its first month, the service that debuted May 27 garnered just under 3 million new sign ups while only about 1 million existing HBO subscribers have accessed the HBO Max app, which is free to all HBO subscribers https://t.co/fpP71Nk1Os

— Variety (@Variety) July 23, 2020

doesn't work with roku or fire!

I was about to say.

Definitely doesn't help!

TS: launching without a deal with Roku or Amazon vs. launching exclusively as a cell phone only streaming service.

tbf "launching without a deal with Roku or Amazon" is the exact specific bungling I originally cited, not a new, deeper level of bungling.

in australia the only way to get anything like hbo max is to give money to rupert murdoch, which is probably fine if you like funding neonazi oligarchs

btw quibi still exists somehow

We laugh now, but next week when the Emmy nominations come out, just you wait.

They should stream the Emmys exclusively on phones.

Golden Arms For Everyone!

U-God to host!

with musical performances by Canibus and a-ha

Exploring Peacock now, it's crazy how much random shit has landed there. Bunch of Hitchcock and Marx Brothers, but also, say, Sleepaway Camp, Topsy-Survey, Wild Style and the Universal Monster movies. Interface is the typical mess, of course, unless you know exactly what you're looking for. (Yeah yeah, I know, JustWatch.)

Today I learned neither Blade Runner 2049 nor All About Eve are currently included in any streaming service.

AAE is Fox, so Disney's burying it in favor of a Demi Lovato reboot.

BR-2049 is rentable for $9.99 from Bezos Junior Samples Prime

Also: Hee Haw isn't streaming anywhere!

These movies are almost always rentable. Except Better Off Dead, which is not available to rent or stream or anything, full stop, afaict.

What is Lost Highway doing in Peacock? It was October Films, but I'm trying to untangle this knot:

October Films was a major U.S. independent film production company and distributor founded in 1991 by Bingham Ray and Jeff Lipsky as a means of distributing the 1990 film Life Is Sweet.

A series of mergers and acquisitions began when Universal Pictures (then a division of the Seagram Company) bought a majority stake in October Films in 1997. Universal then sold its shares to Barry Diller in 1999, who renamed the company USA Films and merged it with Gramercy Pictures. Vivendi then acquired USA Films, who in 2002 acquired Good Machine and merged it with USA Films, forming Focus Features.

Sometimes I think Hollywood is just a system of money laundering.

Blade Runner 2049 is on Prime here in the UK

Focus Features is owned by Universal.

Also: Yes on your money laundering theory.

BR2049 is on TV (seemingly) every other week here - Sony movies, freeview ch32

standard disclaimer note that 65% of everything not available on streaming services is available on torrents BUT HOW DO YOU GET THEM TORRENTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhTomqDTzE

btw, i posted this on "rolling race" but it should maybe be here too: Black Journal is newly available to the public for streaming.

https://americanarchive.org/catalog?f%5Baccess_types%5D%5B%5D=online&f%5Bseries_titles%5D%5B%5D=Black+Journal&sort=episode_number_sort+asc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7g9ROouhpQ

In the spring of 1968, the nation was reeling from protests in hundreds of cities in response to the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., racial inequality and school segregation, and the Vietnam War. Media reports on these issues came from white-dominated network news programs.
It was at this crucial moment that New York City’s National Educational Television (NET), the precursor to WNET and the PBS network, launched the public television series Black Journal, produced by Black talents. Premiering on June 12, 1968, the first episode included the recently widowed Coretta Scott King speaking that very day at Harvard University, a progress report on Dr. Martin Luther King’s Poor People’s Campaign, and a study of the African American political reaction to Robert Kennedy’s assassination, which had occurred that week.
Black Journal’s broadcasts spanned 1968 to 1977 and 59 episodes from the series are available to stream for the first time, thanks to The WNET Group’s participation in The American Archive of Public Broadcasting.

https://www.thirteen.org/blog-post/historic-black-journal-streams-for-the-first-time/

xpost Oh, I torrent like crazy. In fact, what often happens is that I torrent something, don't get around to watching it, then see it's popped up on a streaming service, so I delete my torrent but then don't get around to the streaming service until it's left the service, and so have to torrent again.

Speaking of which, here's something I can't figure out. Netflix (US) has the first four seasons of Better Call Saul, so I ... acquired S5 elsewhere. But the copies I got start with the Netflix insignia and noise and then designate the show a Netflix Original Series. I think I saw that Netflix is the exclusive video-on-demand provider in some territories, or that they've bought the rights in others, but does that allow them to call it a Netflix Original Series, when it's neither exclusive to Netflix not, afaict, produced or paid for by Netflix?

I torrent something, don't get around to watching it, then see it's popped up on a streaming service, so I delete my torrent but then don't get around to the streaming service until it's left the service, and so have to torrent again.

Netflix have always done that Josh xp

Amazon tend to differentiate with Amazon Original and Amazon Exclusive

(Also all seasons of BCS are on Netflix in the uk)

Between the ones I shell out for myself and borrowed family logins and gifted subscriptions and what have you, our household has access to...what, seven streaming services, at least? And I still, nine times out of ten, just wind up buying a physical copy of most movies I want to see because most movies I want to see aren't available on any of those services*. These things mostly just expand the pool of tv series I have access to AFAICT (with a random bonus assortment of movies that I don't really care about).

*e.g. bought a DVD copy of both Better Off Dead and One Crazy Summer a month or so ago, so I can watch them whenever I like!

Even Criterion (which I don't currently subscribe to) only ever seems to have a smattering of the fancy arty and/or old-timey movies I'd like to see.

I think Netflix has put money into producing BCS since at least season 2 (co-funding AMC)

Yeah we have Netflix and Prime for the tv shows and it's just a nice bonus any time they have a mainstream movie we haven't seen xps

Each of the streaming services we get for free or subscribe to - Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Criterion, HBO Max, Tubi, Disney, Kanopy, Hoopla, probably something I'm forgetting - has enough content to last me for months or years. And yet I'm still shocked how often I come across something not available (that is, not included) on any of them. For example, we watched "Total Recall" the other day, and I told my daughter when it's time for another popcorn flick we should watch "Predator." But "Predator," at least right now, is only included with Starz, DirectTV and ... something called Eros Now?

The problem I also come across is one of organization, them as well as me. It would be nice if I could arrange watch lists by order or priority or by genre or style or something. For example, there were a bunch of great looking spaghetti westerns someone suggested on the Morricone thread, so I immediately/instinctively downloaded them. Then I discovered several were available on various streaming services, but adding them to an epic watchlist is like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, just putting them somewhere I will never find them again. If I could create my own "spaghetti western" folder on a steaming service, I'd know just where to go when the mood strikes.

Blade RUnner sequel was on Prime in the US as of two weeks ago, must have rotated out

Josh you may just have to get over it and digitally rent Predator, it'll cost like three or four bucks which might beat old-school VHS rental prices, adjusted for inflation.

I do however agree 100% about needing tools to organize shit. Obviously these services aren't designed around the needs of movie nerds with serious analysis paralysis, but half the fatigue of deciding what to watch comes from the fact that (at least on Roku), the My List interface for all these things amounts to a linear one-way scroll, with the newest-added stuff at top. So the longer I've been meaning to watch something, the further it is out of reach, and the more impatient my partner gets as I scroll around trying to pick something. Just a mess and really tedious if you really get into adding every kinda cool movie that pops up over time.

The other thing that's desperately needed, but will never be implemented, is a quick button to take something out of all listings, so that if I'm scrolling through comedies or action movies or whatever, I don't have to keep scrolling past the same movies I have no interest in watching, often appearing in multiple categories. Of course, they want to create the impression of incredible abundance, but it ends up backfiring and feeling like they only have 10 titles I'm seeing over and over.

^^I was going over Prime last night because a friend asked about 'off the beaten path' stuff she could stream, and oh man the repeats.

We watched "The Conversation" on Amazon last night, and no joke, the initial search resulted in three or four entries returned for the same film, each with slightly different art, and only one of which was active/live.

yeah, none of the services have any useful kind of organising of watchlists at all - it really speaks to the idea of just keeping you watching ~whatever~ on their service, and attempting to sap viewers of the very concept of choice or control.

I think Netflix has put money into producing BCS since at least season 2 (co-funding AMC)

I do not think that Netflix co-funds AMC, and I'm fairly sure that even if they did, this would have no 1:1 effect on the production of a programme that AMC does not own, but I'd be interested to read about either

but does that allow them to call it a Netflix Original Series, when it's neither exclusive to Netflix not, afaict, produced or paid for by Netflix?

I've not been DMing with Sarandos for the last eight years or so but I've reached a conclusion: the dude simply does not seem to give a fuck

the repeats are especially annoying on Prime because the service in fact is stacked with deep cuts, but you'll never find them in the genre listings because of all the repeats filling them up. best bet is to find one movie in the genre you're after and start going down the "Customers Also Watched" rabbit hole. acres and acres of kung fu movies, blaxploitation, direct-to-video Mad Max knockoffs, 1960s Italian and Japanese scifi, beach party movies, dim transfers of old VHS releases of noir films, head-scratching minor animation, bottom-tier 80s comedies, and on and on. or, hey, want some Altman? well, the service might tell you about The Long Goodbye being available for streaming, but unless you know you're looking for it, you might not realize that right now this fuckin thing has Images, Buffalo Bill and the Indians, Come Back to the Five & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean AND a restored California Split with the never-released-on-video theatrical soundtrack. it's a bewildering and frustrating cornucopia.

With Prime, you can actually filter things quite well on the web interface, though it's well hidden.

This url shows all English-language Prime movies released in 1970s and 80s, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=movies-tv&bbn=2649512011&rh=n%3A2625373011%2Cn%3A2625374011%2Cn%3A2649512011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A2651258011%7C2651259011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_n_availability%3A8219609011&dc&fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1596241647&rnid=8219608011&ref=sr_nr_p_n_availability_2

And you can also make it just show you ones that have been added in the past 7 days, 30 days or 90 days. Or restrict it to certain genres.