The frustrating thing for me is watching a national battle play out over what are properly local fucking issues. I understand why the protestors are jeering the mayor. People watching on Twitter, probably a lot of people watching on this thread, won't, and will dismiss it as the radical left eating its own.
I don't think the President and his forces are engaging in divide and conquer tactics on purpose. I'm not convinced he's smart enough for that. I don't think it matters.
I have friends overseas who don't understand why the President is still in office, who don't understand why we don't do something about it. Well, of course, it's because we have no legal recourse. And I have... well, I guess people who I considered friends, and they say that what the federal officers are doing is bad, of course, but that doesn't excuse what the protestors are doing, and they are just going to have to sit this one out, sorry.
I am way more afraid of the federal government than I am of the protestors. Way more afraid. Since I don't have recourse to the law, since the federal government does not consider itself bound by the law, my only hope is that a decisive number of people will see it the same way and that they will make their decisions, live their lives, in accordance with those beliefs.
At this point it's basically a blind hope, and I'm not very good at that.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
Oh, that wasn't my intent. I was thinking specifically of the protestors in Madison, WI, who took down a statue of an abolitionist and a monument to women's suffrage. That's the kind of inchoate rage I was referencing. If Portland's mayor has a history, then by all means, boo away. But if he's part of the problem and not the solution, then I don't know who is going to push to get the feds out of there. The AG? Governor?
― Josh in Chicago
Jo Ann Hardesty.
Oh, that wasn't my intent.
No worries, I figured as much. It just struck me in the moment as misguided, hence my response.
Hardesty does seem great, but I haven't lived in OR for years now (and that was Eugene anyway) so I will shut up now.
― rob, Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
Anybody who wants more information - here, people will read it, other places, people are less likely to - this OPB article explains pretty well what the situation is here.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-faces-protesters-and-tear-gas-head-on/
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
Ted Wheeler deserves the tear gas tbqh
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
yep this is about as far from "inchoate rage" as you can get
A list of demands projected on the wall above his head as he spoke concluded with a call for him to resign.
Wheeler showed no inclination to do that, and he provoked more boos each time he told questioners that he does not plan to hand over day-to-day oversight of the Portland Police Bureau to Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty as she has demanded.
is that fucking specific enough for you, Josh?
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
An hour or so after Wheeler departed, his own Portland Police Bureau declared the event a riot and ordered people to leave downtown or face “arrest, citation or riot control agents.”
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 July 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link
meh
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/federal-judge-finds-state-lacks-standing-denies-oregon-attorney-generals-motion-to-restrict-federal-police-actions.html
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link
5,000 or more downtown last night, who knows how many tonight
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 26 July 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link
interview with local journalist on the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTauwlVYMNg
― anvil, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/politics/portland-federal-agents-leaving-protests-homeland-security/index.html
― XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
The feds never left. They stationed a garrison of 130 troops behind, when the original detachment was 114. The cops naturally returned to beating people and slashing tires last night over on the eastside.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
which federal property over there did they find to protect from chants and drums?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link
There’s a precinct or a sheriffs joint on E Burnside
In this video we hear a Portland Police officer discuss his desire to shoot pepper spray up a protester's ass.Is this acceptable behavior from an officer @ChiefCLovell? Do you like hearing this @tedwheeler? Should this man be allowed to stay on the force, @DAMikeSchmidt? https://t.co/pWloQ8LewY— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) August 4, 2020
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link
absolutely excessive brutality last night
https://twitter.com/IwriteOK
― sleeve, Monday, 7 September 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link
I guess this is the Portland thread as such? Great because guess what you're all doing on April 22 -- joining us:
https://www.megaphonic.fm/live-2023
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
ooh
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
Yeah be there or else. Or something.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
ugh i have to work that night but maybe i can sneak in for the first hour or so, would be nice to see former ilxor casuistry!
― Clay, Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
Pity but yes, do make it for the start at least! His main podcast will record first.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
Might have to stop by
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
Just a quick reminder that this is happening two weeks from today!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 April 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
Okay, one last reminder for tomorrow if you can make it!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 April 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
ahhhh FUCK how did i miss this thread, i have a date booked for 5 pm today :( i've never met any ilxors in person... idk maybe i'll talk with my girlfriend and see if we can make it anyway...
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
update: i changed my mind and decided to go anyway, really enjoyed meeting you ned and the podcast was a lot of fun - i've never been to a podcast taping before!
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 April 2023 05:13 (one year ago) link
Oh shoot, I hadn't seen this until now.
Anyway. Formally a Portland resident as of April 1!
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 23 April 2023 05:15 (one year ago) link
xpost It was a treat of a night and a joy to meet ya!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 April 2023 06:00 (one year ago) link
Way cool Eazy! Open invite to folks here - if anyone is in the PDX area and wants to hang out, drop me a DM. :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link
same offer goes for me in Eugene!
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
Aw man, I missed this yesterday
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 23 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
But yeah, if we ever want to do a meetup in Portland, I’m in.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 23 April 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link
sorry I couldn’t make it last night, just couldn’t swing logistics with that and work, glad it went well! and obv also down for a hang if something comes together
― Clay, Sunday, 23 April 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
Definitely up for that as well, whenever most people can make it. I'm in SE near Ladd's Addition, but open to wherever (especially with spring on the way).
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 23 April 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
I'm near Foster-Powell. What sort of timing are we thinking? Is a weekday lunch OK? My work schedule is pretty flexible and a lot of times I'll go to Pizzeria Otto FoPo, they have a Margherita lunch special at a really good price. That's just an opening suggestion, though, I have a car so I can go damn near anywhere.
Sleeve I've been planning to visit some friends down in Eugene for, well, literally years now. If I ever actually get down there you're on the itinerary. :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 24 April 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
<3
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 24 April 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
Weekday lunch would work for me as well, and otherwise have a flexible schedule at least for the next few weeks (and pizza sounds good too)
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Monday, 24 April 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link
I work in Tualatin so I’m more open on weekends/weeknights
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
i used to live out by beaverton, i'm meeting up with eazy for lunch early next week, i figure we can take it from there :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:43 (one year ago) link
Had a great lunch with Kate today at Pizzeria Otto FoPo ($8 for a wood-fired Margherita pizza!). I love how Portland still has good cheap meals for $10 and under (no sales tax makes a big difference).
Anyway. Hope more of us can meet up this spring/summer!
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link
I am happy my visit helped indirectly spark more of this!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link
Glad to have a chance to finally meet some of y'all! I'm kind of a ghost when it comes to the public Internet - this is the only public social space on the net I still hang out on!
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link
I am visiting and this is my last night here. Trying to find a way to get into the sold-out Conner O'Malley show at the Aladdin Theater.
― Chris L, Friday, 2 June 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
ice storm is looking pretty bad tomorrow... i'm hunkered down in my girlfriend's apartment. it was built for student housing so the insulation is pretty good, unlike with my apartment where the walls are made of paper. expecting widespread power outages tomorrow. we got food and plenty of blankets and we should be ok. hope everyone in the area is staying safe.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 02:33 (five months ago) link
i haven't lost power through the first part of this other than blips and it came right back, but yeah tomorrow's the real test. should all burn off wednesday
― Clay, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 02:43 (five months ago) link
so icy down here in Eugene, haven't left the house since Saturday mid-day. not even the buses are running!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 02:48 (five months ago) link
actually I did manage to take the pup for a short walk this afternoon, she seemed to enjoy it! but it is an ice rink, 20-minute walk and I almost fell twice
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 02:49 (five months ago) link
Power was out at the office, okay in the neighborhood. Picked up an electric heater on Saturday morning after one night of the wind getting thru the windows into the bedroom. Cats have mainly been indoors for the past 3 days and are complaining about it
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 06:28 (five months ago) link
We lost power for three hours Saturday morning, got it back, then lost it again at 1:30pm as the thermometer was hitting 15F with 35 mph winds. We lived with wood-burning fireplace heat and a camp stove for the next 52 hours or so. Our living room eventually stabilized at 47F. We set a timer at one hour intervals all night to feed the fire, taking turns.
We got power back yesterday (Monday) at 5pm. Since then we've raised the house back up to 68F, got some sleep, and today we've been prepping like mad for the next outage from the coming ice storm. We still have lots of wood, but only about 65% of what we had going into this storm. We'll survive. We've lived through similar events multiple times. Just not much fun.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 23:28 (five months ago) link
Car windows here (Southeast) iced over solid in about 15 minutes. Can't imagine what 12 hours of this will be like if the graupel continues. Have been lucky keeping heat and power this past weekend and mostly hunkering down, though the snow has been un-slippery the past two days and easy for walking.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 00:23 (five months ago) link