Maron says on WTF today that Sarandon phoned him after he proposed wrapping the story with a single Netflix movie and explained that the health concerns made that impossible.
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link
This is obviously a radical departure from how network TV has done things for a half-century, but why shouldn’t it be? Netflix doesn’t make money the way broadcasters did. The streamer doesn’t need shows it produces to build up a catalogue of 60, 80, or 100 episodes so that it can make hundreds of millions of dollars in selling syndication rights to other platforms because Netflix shows are designed, by and large, to live their entire lives on Netflix.
where does this romantic idea about the networks nurturing underperforming shows come from? if the viewership wasn't there, it got canned. this was as true in the network days as it is now. maybe more so - there are many stories of shows that got cancelled after two or three bad weeks. that doesn't happen on netflix. and the stuff about syndication - networks only made hundreds of millions in syndication rights from big hits. a tiny fraction of what was commissioned!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/According_to_Jim#Ratings
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link
okay good point
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
it is increasingly hard to remember but pre-internet cable used to desperately need content because, for the most part, they didn't make their own! The paradigm has definitely shifted to the point where I would like to lobby for #LessContentPlease
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
for sure
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
until it's safe to film most of them physically rubbing all over their colleagues and sitting on each others' heads
wrestling still exists ftr
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
i think the presumption is that wrestlers signed on for physical dangers, THESPIANS not so much so
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
They're all filmed in Florida, with a state govt corrupted by the McMahons... so not good.― Nhex, Friday, October 9, 2020 6:49 AM (three hours ago)
― Nhex, Friday, October 9, 2020 6:49 AM (three hours ago)
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Thursday, 8 October 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
If Vince McMahon destroys the long-term physical health of several uninsured contractors, business as per his entire decades-long career. If Ted Sarandos murders union members Alison Brie and Geena Davis, it might generate some bad publicity, lawsuits and cancelled subscriptions.#voteNOon22
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Thursday, 8 October 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
The way Netflix pumps out content makes it seem like they're going for basic cable status - always there with something different but not necessarily memorable, let other services be the premium cable option.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 8 October 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
This looks great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpGNnaDzeE
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 9 October 2020 13:25 (four years ago) link
This is a mess, unfortunately. It barely resembles what you could expect from the trailer and the bulk of it just seems superfluous. Argh! I really wanted it to be good because the trailer seemed so promising.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 12 October 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link
New season of Kipo is out today 🙂
― groovypanda, Monday, 12 October 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link
I saw some webinars with teh people who were making taht 40 year old version a couple of months ago and it did look very promising.MUst see if I can find a way of getting it.
― Stevolende, Monday, 12 October 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
Oh nice! Season 2 was pretty good but its animation quality took a dip, so given such a surprisingly quick turnaround for S3, I don't expect it to have improved.
― Fisherman's Worf (Leee), Monday, 12 October 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link
Finished Kipo and it's excellent. The animation is still dodgy (save for one episode) but the story is lovely -- I'd say that it's part of the post-Avatar/Korra cartoon boom.
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link
Oh man The Queen's Gambit is extraordinary.
― akm, Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
Been wondering about that, as I remember liking the book many years ago.
― brain (krakow), Friday, 30 October 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link
Just seen this and thought it was fantastic. Anya Taylor-Joy's performance was riveting from start to finish, and I really liked the way all the different themes were explored - addiction, mental illness, sexism, adoption/parental neglect, the loneliness of genius, the tension of high-level competition and all in a lean, clean seven episodes. Also incredible outfits.
Might pick up the Walter Tevis book now too - loved "Mockingbird" but never really checked out anything else by him.
― Roz, Sunday, 1 November 2020 07:09 (four years ago) link
iswydt
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Sunday, 1 November 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link
ha! didn’t do anything tbh, purely unintentional ;)
― Roz, Sunday, 1 November 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
omg @ Queens Gambit -can’t stop watching!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 06:20 (four years ago) link
I watched the first ep of Queen's Gambit yesterday and I found it to be the strangest mix of boring and upsetting. Too many kid-genius story cliches seemed to be in play: the stone-cold precociousness; the curmudgeonly teacher; handily trouncing the older kids...playing chess on the ceiling was a cool visual idea which I found annoyingly redolent of A Beautiful Mind. I'm going to stick with this because Taylor-Joy is a really compelling actor and I'm assuming it gets more interesting as the character & plot develops.
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
I'm 3 episodes in, it's certainly not high drama but I find it rather comforting and definitely not too upsetting - every time they seem to telegraph some hugely traumatic event it ends up not working out that way - even the end of ep 2 gets smoothed over pretty much instantly. It all seems a bit Young Adult. The magic drug that causes lucid, persistent and controllable hallucinations within 5 seconds of taking it is lol but ok.
― neith moon (ledge), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
I've been catching up on Dark, but QG definitely caught my eye, looking forward to starting that.
― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link
yes I had a friend who stopped queen's gambit 20 minutes into the first episode because he couldn't deal with the orphanage/drugging kids/etc (he's overly sensitive IMO). I told him that all stops with the second episode but he didn't listen to me and went off and watched something stupid
― akm, Monday, 2 November 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link
The magic drug that causes lucid, persistent and controllable hallucinations within 5 seconds of taking it is lol but ok
I don't think this is what it's supposed to be doing though? I just figured it was reducing her anxiety/clearing her mind so she could then visualise the board
― Number None, Monday, 2 November 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
yeah it’s just a tranq
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
*just* lolyeah it’s not causing hallucinations it’s just in taking them she discovered she can visualize the board - my take id she could prob do that without them but she associates w tranqs and thinks that is what helps her maybe
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
my take ~is~
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
ok i will accept these hot takes. (the book was 99p in kobo so i bought it & yes she does just seem to be particularly adept at visualisation.)
― neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 08:48 (four years ago) link
the lady chess show is very watchable bcz ATJ is extremely watchable -- i never found *her* boring even when festooned w/tropes (or the child that plays her in the first ep). it's kinda hokey schematic bullshit storywise, the moral arc of the drama is 7 eps and it bends towards EXACTLY what you expect at every juncture (but in a pleasing enough way on the whole)
the section in the mid-late eps where she was losing it bcz she's alone and too smart and angry and chaotic and beautiful i found stressy to watch bcz it reminds me of a good friend, who is also sometimes a bit stressy to watch bcz all these same things -- and bcz irl conflicts and causes don't tidily dissove the way hokey schematic-dramatic ones do so i was worrying a bit on my friend's behalf (and wondering if i shd direct them to this show: probably not)
― mark s, Sunday, 8 November 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
just finished it, even allowing for hokey schematics it whipped ass. acting, production design, cinematography all about as good as i've seen in a limited series/made for streaming thing.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:46 (four years ago) link
Yeah, "Queen's Gambit" is some solid entertainment, whole family enjoyed. Probably didn't need to be 7 episodes, but not going to complain, because it always looks good and Anya is a compelling presence.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 November 2020 04:49 (four years ago) link
Is it watchable with kids? How young?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 November 2020 05:06 (four years ago) link
Too many kid-genius story cliches seemed to be in playannoyingly redolent of A Beautiful Mind
oh wait now maybe I don't want to watch this actually
xpost teens, probably.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 November 2020 05:12 (four years ago) link
I enjoyed watching the QG but agree it was a weird mix of sort of Truthbomb and Cliche. The relationship with Alma would've surely been quite a strong influence and yet I don't feel i really got a handle on that character at all. was there supposed to be some fabrication about Beth's age somewhere? At least there was one character who didn't pop up at the end as I was sort of expecting.
― kinder, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link
chess is for VLs
― ||||||||, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link
was there supposed to be some fabrication about Beth's age somewhere?
When she gets adopted she's 15 but the adopters want a 13yo so the governess nods at her to lie about her age. I don't think it's ever mentioned or of any relevance later.
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link
yeah we wondered about that - did she fess up, or go into the wrong class at school? it didn't look like the latter but odd to leave it unclear.
― neith moon (ledge), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
We just finished last night. I was just kinda along for the ride at first (and, like the rest if y'all, for ATJ, who is great and who I expect to be great in lots more stuff if they ever start making movies again) and thought it was okay if a little boilerplate biopic-ish, but I was pretty much sold by the end. It won me over, maybe stoked a tear or two, who can say.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link
I think it was a bit Wes Anderson - really stylized, and I don’t think I would’ve liked it at all otherwise (I generally dislike biopics or fiction films in that style, I’d much prefer a documentary).
I somehow totally missed the revelation Townes was gay and was confused for a minute by their conversation when they meet up in Russia
― just1n3, Monday, 16 November 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
We’ve been watching the (a&e?) Leah Remini Scientology survivor series. Some messed up stories!
― DJI, Monday, 16 November 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link
watched the first ep of the queen’s gambit last night, and have the same reservations many itt do: my biggest eyeroll is the tranq (I assume thorazine?) which knocks her out during the day but somehow leads to extremely vivid and clear visions of an upside-down chessboard at night. (how quickly she picks up the game also stretches belief a bit but that’s ok.) and her “addiction” to them I thought was handled in a pretty hokey way. I hope the series takes the time to show us a little more about the secondary characters; everyone other than beth seems like a pretty leaden cipher to me
it looks nice though and everyone says it gets better so I’ll watch a couple more today
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
I really liked the way her mother was written & acted, very believable and affecting
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
Harry Belkin gets a pretty good arc as well (I think we have one or 2 more to go)
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
i enjoyed the dad's reappearance in the last ep. it's not a deep or complex show but there are some nice touches and some really good character work.
― the 120 days of sod 'em (ledge), Saturday, 21 November 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
My impression was that the ceiling chess was figurative not literal - she doesn’t actually see the game playing out on the ceiling, she’s seeing it in her mind
― just1n3, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link