rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

i believe they built it on theft and swindle

I think about this article a lot whenever someone brings up the argument that "Trump is a fighter". he's hilariously bad at defending himself and if not for the electoral college making us sweat we'd be all in on the fact that Trump has essentially run the worst re-election campaign of all time

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-lies/

They built this bubble

They built this bubble on rock and roll

― Kabob Dylan (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:16 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i believe they built it on theft and swindle

― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:17 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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I've said before that Trump is good at fighting his way out of a corner -- in fact he seems to thrive on it.

Unfortunately, declaring bankruptcy is not a viable strategy in electoral politics.

IDK what's with the corny need to deny that he's good at anything at all, and I think this has consistently led to democrats underestimating him. What was said upthread about the rich could be said about most republicans and a lot of democrats. It could be said about Hillary Clinton. Somehow Trump defeated a field of standard-issue Republicans and then also defeated Hillary Clinton in an election. He has something - he's not particularly intelligent, but he has an energy, a certain amount of cunning, and a complete lack of shame, and it makes him dangerous. I don't know why it's so hard to admit that and I hope that the polls prove right.

I was about to retort, but this is the Trump is going to win thread, so fair play.

maybe we're just splitting hairs here - yes, he's "good" at certain things, but those things tend to be massive character flaws which no sane country would reward the way the USA does. his victory over Republicans is on the media, who treated the debates like WrestleMania and gave Trump way more speaking time than anyone else, not to mention literal billions of dollars worth of free coverage. his victory over Clinton was mostly a function of the electoral college and an FBI director choosing to take the unprecedented step of reopening an investigation into what was her one big albatross, TEN DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. as I've noted many times in the past, he is in many ways the ultimate Republican - as whiny and ignorant as the people who vote for them, but even more shameless and disconnected from the truth. he talks the way idiots in rural bars and YouTube comment sections talk.

and yes I do admit that there is a political skill there, something that the left needs to learn from. Bernie has it, Ilhan & AOC have it, Biden and Obama **kinda** have it, Hillary and Pete do not. the big thing people hate about politicians is that they're inauthentic. I'm not saying Trump is authentic, in fact he's almost certainly the most dishonest politician in history. but the anger and whininess is real.

he talks the way idiots in rural bars and YouTube comment sections talk.

And they seem to love him for it, so in that sense I guess he's good at it.

I'm not saying Trump is authentic, in fact he's almost certainly the most dishonest politician in history. but the anger and whininess is real.

Yeah, the weird thing is that (despite the obvious dishonesty) his supporters say they like him because he tells it like it is, keeps his promises, is straight with them. They might admit that he exaggerates here and there, but the overall sense is that he's truthful because he says what feels right to them, and he amplifies what they believe. Which is a kind of authenticity.

I guess what you could say he and Bernie and the others you mention have in common is they have the ability to connect with people's feelings and not just a vague bourgeois sense of propriety and the-way-things-are-supposed-to-work-as-i-learned-in-civics-class. A power that can be used for good or ill.

I would say Trump has an emotional authenticity to him.

He's authentically an asshole, yeah

Right, that's the appeal! The idea that it takes an asshole (someone unconcerned with propriety or tradition) to actually get things done.

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jaymc "he's the bull in a china shop we need"

people say they can tolerate his assholeishness because of his policies but I think it's closer to they tolerate his policies because they love what an asshole he is

ums otm

The only way to stop a bad guy who is an asshole is with a good guy who is an asshole.

Hillary and Pete do not.

Pete is finding a very good role as a rich white creep who can go on Fox News and tell them they're total full-of-shit assholes to their faces.

the Tucker Carlson of Fox, if you will

should clarify, I mean primary Pete, not this weird Fox News Pete who I strangely kinda like

Secondary Pete

Here we go: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/election-news-live-results-trump-biden-latest-polls-b1553700.html

lol that headline

the 4 "flipped" states are ones Biden doesn't need and they're only favoring Trump due to the deluge of garbage R-leading polls that came out at the last minute which pushed out the better ones. this is just how RCP works

Everything seems to be going fine and I am sort of starting to sweat and freak out thinking about what if there's a giant surge of voters in the all-white rural towns and non-towns, I wouldn't even know it was happening until the returns started to come in, there are certainly people there who don't usually vote and maybe they've been activated by the idea that only Trump stands between their front porch and the platoon of Antifa supersoldiers at the highway offramp awaiting instructions from General Soros

I get what you're saying, this is gonna be an all-time high turnout election and it's not 100% clear who all these new voters are

that said

1) there's a reason the GOP is trying so hard to get votes thrown out right now and
2) 2018 was a record setting midterm and that went pretty well for Dems

I can't see there being a significant chunk of people who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 who have been convinced based on how this term has went. but I do see plenty of people who didn't vote Clinton who are now very very enthusiastic about never having to hear from Donald Trump again. so my feeling is pretty good right now. but after 2016 I'm not gonna feel great until it's 100% clear that Biden won.

otm. Midterm /= presidential elections, but, uh, that evening Dems exceeded every expectation, the size of which became apparent a few days later.

Trump's base didn't grow and if anything may have shrunk a tiny amount in four years, and it was only ever a third or less of the population. plus a lot of them died because they were 116 years old.

I am feeling ok so far.

BREAKING: USPS fails to meet deadline set by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to sweep facilities and immediately deliver remaining mail ballots. As of this week, USPS said there were some 300,000 ballots that lacked a delivery scan pic.twitter.com/5ODluNmk0Z

— John Kruzel (@johnkruzel) November 3, 2020

Thanks guys

if this election is even close there’s a pretty simple chant for democrats

COUNT
THE
VOTES

just had a small panic attack

sometimes I like to make orrible jokes with me ilxor chums to pretend like I don't care that much but then it creeps up and honestly if Trump wins how do we go on??

who has standing to sue the Postal Service?

cos this isn't "someone got an absentee ballot and didn't return it", this is someone completed a ballot, sent it, had it accepted by USPS, and then never had it delivered.

hopefully some of them noticed and went to vote in person (if their state allows them to spoil it). but file lawsuit IMO - even if Biden wins, this cannot stand.

yeah i was feeling good this morning but i'm a little panicky now

i'm panicky but not because of any reason other than "fuck, we're here"

yeah

i could do with a snack tbh

i can do with a pill that ends in -cet

Fuck I would gobble a perc

hope this helps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQRIAAwzdls

Love that guy video

Hi friends, c'mon in. Water's fine.

Biden's not gonna win North Carolina or Texas, that's not our territory, it's Pennsylvanis or nothing, goddamnit

itv letting farage have untold long minutes of time to just say whatever old crap comes into his head

sorry wrong thread

lol my partner went on the NYT needle page and now our household is on the verge of becoming a new level of hell

I’m just like whatever man

I have to be able to take care of my family when the proverbial effluvium impacts the impeller, I can’t afford to get excited by any of this

Frankly tombot that’s masculinist bullcrap

One of us is nine, the other one is staring at her phone in an emotional state, I don’t get the privilege of being a hot mess right now. I’ll grant that it might be masculinist but it’s not bullcrap