rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

we're really never going to forget/forgive the year 2020 are we

lads lets not let one bad night ruin what's otherwise been an amazing year

lol

BREAKING: at 62.6 million votes, Donald Trump about to cross his 2016 vote tally of 62.9 million votes.

First time since 2004 an incumbent President would win more votes during re-election campaign than first campaign.
— US Politics Polls (@USPoliticsPoll) November 4, 2020

This is so insane. Why is it seemingly impossible for Trump to face negative consequences for his egregious actions?

I said the same about Bush in '04.

people like what he's selling apparently

You were right then too. But there is something freaky about this Trump stuff. The grandiosity, the lying, the scapegoating, the rallies that caused 700 covid deaths — it’s all so baroquely obscene and in your face.

Like i have never encountered a person who seemed less trustworthy than him. I can’t even squint and pretend to understand what people like about him anymore. This current campaign wasn’t even political—he wasn’t taking about onshoring anymore—it was all personality cult and he *expanded* his base!

he projects victory and mindless triumph

I really want to move honestly. And it’s an aesthetic decision more than anything else maybe, which makes me a snob. But I don’t want to live in a country that elevates this king of person, it’s too depressing.

*kind

I mean, I’m also concerned and horrified even at what he’ll do. But right now the country’s acceptance of him — their acceptance of his mistreatment of THEM — is repellent. I can’t

The problem is, will a European country accept us, thanks to COVID?

My fiancee wants to stay in the nyc metro area to be near family so I’m staying here I guess.

my mother has been in hospital for 3 weeks. it would cost $25,000 to see her in my own country a month from now, because of Covid

Sorry to hear that sic.

^ do not agree with the capitalisation style guide here, will be moving all my posts to substack

Retiring abroad sounds significantly more appealing now

xpost to treeship He and his kind and what they mean for someone like myself - educated, middle aged creative freelancer with no health insurance and no prospects of barely getting above the poverty line - leave the US two years ago. It hasn’t been easy with covid hitting just as I was starting to gain impulse here but I haven’t regretted my decision one bit.

*are what made me leave

So, we're all going to die of Covid or in the approaching civil war.

My dad said to me yesterday, "never overestimate the racism and stupidity of the American populace."

Today begins the research in earnest on how to get the fuck out of this absolute shithole

Pre-pandemic I was planning to fly to Sweden and request asylum if Trump won. Now nobody's taking Americans. (N.B. I still think Biden is going to win. He's ahead. But yeah, this isn't victory, this is just staving off extinction, and that means the USA is not a country worth saving, really. For now, I'll just limit myself to hiding in NJ, safely blue and governed with relative sanity.)

Hey guys remember when ILX was sooooooo sure Trump was going to lose? That was yesterday!

if by ILX you mean a faction of short-fused willful optimists who can't abide anybody questioning them....

Looks precariously "good" right now though.

edit: looks fucking miserable but that Trump will get the boot

Yeah this is the exact scenario a ton of people (including many on this board) were predicting was gonna happen, I heard “Biden’s gonna win but Trump will be ahead on election night and will declare victory” takes everywhere. I don’t blame anyone for freaking out though given the stakes.

I mean yes it does appear that there will be severe polling errors in several states but why is everybody coming in here and dunking on people who were mildly optimistic Trump was gonna lose (which, btw, he's still likely to), as if this is a sporting event, and not something that is actually mentally and physically affecting us?

it's a dick move.

it's weird in that some states seem like they were called correctly, others off wildly

Yeah I really don’t care for Biden but why come and gloat over people upset at this moment ffs

Because several people were calling us the hysterical ones all year!
I'll say it again: you can't underestimate the racism and stupidity in this country. Though I admit I'm even taken a little aback that Trump has a higher vote count than 2016

I'm not yet sure how "the" Latinx vote went, but if "we" broke more for the current USA president than we did in 2016, it's a reminder that anti-Black racism in the USA is going nowhere.

xpost so you come into a thread taunting us when Trump actually is still likely to lose?

ok

like idk if you're aware, some of us live in *red states* and know full well of the racism and stupidity in the country. many on this board actually *experience* it on a regular basis.

if "we" broke more for the current USA president than we did in 2016, it's a reminder that anti-Black racism in the USA is going nowhere.

https://www.chapo.chat/pictrs/image/r1kGCRy2WN.jpg

White men not so bad after all?

as NWH's manager said in Fear of a Black Hat - "white man - no good"

Neanderthal I don't think anyone in here has been dunking on the "mildly optimistic." I count myself among the mildly optimistic!

It does seem though that when someone expresses a reasonable fear equal in emphasis to the expressions of reasonable confidence, that that person gets agressively shut down and told to shut the fuck up.

We have all been srsly traumatized and could use a little room to breathe when it comes to those fears

these pronouncements of what people were and weren't doing aren't especially helpful because they assume ILX posters are homogeneous, but they also rely on everybody's faulty memory. I'm not interested in going back through all of the threads and seeing who said what, and I know there was battling, but many people objected yesterday to the non-Trump is gonna win thread being shitted up with freakout posts that weren't based in any actual data. because some of us have anxiety and it triggers us.

this wasn't 2016. we were cocky in 2016. map yesterday said they were freaked out, so did ums, so did I for that matter - I don't think running into this thread like Nhex did and going HAHA SEE WE WERE RIGHT TO WORRY is helping anybody. I wasn't assuming a slam dunk yesterday even despite the odds. I was scared, even despite my optimism.

I had chest pain last night that was merely a bad panic attack that scared me for 5 mins.

so can we stop the Sharks vs Jets shit? if people wanna worry that Trump is gonna win, they can continue to post it here. but not the "rolling POINT AND CALL OUT YOUR FELLOW ILXOR FOR POSSIBLE CRIMES" thread. I can start that thread if need be.

https://www.chapo.chat/pictrs/image/r1kGCRy2WN.jpg

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:01 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

white men...welcome to the resistance

Xpost Agreed. I was saying to my husband last night that the problem isn't that I didn't know this country was full of racist idiots, but that the full extent of its idiotic racism is on full display during elections, and makes me never want to leave my majority-minority home city ever again, except to move to another place that isn't so godforsaken

if it makes you feel any better, my "haha" is more extreme bitterness than boastful dunking

i run into racist idiots all the time in my deep blue state. if i had to live in a red state i'd be even more hopeless

Purposely didn't post (or read) the thread up until now, partly because I thought it would be a rollercoaster of seeming different ways at different times. Mainly because of the red mirage stuff. Knowing about the red mirage factor didn't help the feeling of riding the rollercoaster

the red mirage will turn into a red dawn; with the help of mr. putin, we will drive these commie liberals from our shores once and for all

I was very optimistic. The polling was super stable (which to me implied it was accurate) and common sense told me any polling error would likely be in Biden’s favor. I’ll push back against the narrative that polls were wrong in 2016...they were only off by a point. And in 2018 they were pretty spot on. They missed big this time though. Bigger than Obama in 2012

to think that the type of person who'd vote for 2scoops might lie to pollsters. why i never

i still want to move to New Zealand

I’m sorry you got shook, but come on, Biden voters, JFC. There have been plenty of people everywhere — even on ILX — talking about how this would play out, from places of knowledge and experience, and you refused to actually honor them.

Now you’re stuck backpedaling furiously on the landslide narrative, in an effort to save face. Meanwhile, if Biden does somehow eke out a win, you’ll forget about this moment of uncertainty and double-down on your initial position and we’ll do some variation of this in four years.

If they were lying to pollsters then that’s a new thing that they didn’t do in 2016. And only in certain states it seems. There’s got to just be a major flaw in the polling methodology this year