rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread

he projects victory and mindless triumph

I really want to move honestly. And it’s an aesthetic decision more than anything else maybe, which makes me a snob. But I don’t want to live in a country that elevates this king of person, it’s too depressing.

*kind

I mean, I’m also concerned and horrified even at what he’ll do. But right now the country’s acceptance of him — their acceptance of his mistreatment of THEM — is repellent. I can’t

The problem is, will a European country accept us, thanks to COVID?

My fiancee wants to stay in the nyc metro area to be near family so I’m staying here I guess.

my mother has been in hospital for 3 weeks. it would cost $25,000 to see her in my own country a month from now, because of Covid

Sorry to hear that sic.

^ do not agree with the capitalisation style guide here, will be moving all my posts to substack

Retiring abroad sounds significantly more appealing now

xpost to treeship He and his kind and what they mean for someone like myself - educated, middle aged creative freelancer with no health insurance and no prospects of barely getting above the poverty line - leave the US two years ago. It hasn’t been easy with covid hitting just as I was starting to gain impulse here but I haven’t regretted my decision one bit.

*are what made me leave

So, we're all going to die of Covid or in the approaching civil war.

My dad said to me yesterday, "never overestimate the racism and stupidity of the American populace."

Today begins the research in earnest on how to get the fuck out of this absolute shithole

Pre-pandemic I was planning to fly to Sweden and request asylum if Trump won. Now nobody's taking Americans. (N.B. I still think Biden is going to win. He's ahead. But yeah, this isn't victory, this is just staving off extinction, and that means the USA is not a country worth saving, really. For now, I'll just limit myself to hiding in NJ, safely blue and governed with relative sanity.)

Hey guys remember when ILX was sooooooo sure Trump was going to lose? That was yesterday!

if by ILX you mean a faction of short-fused willful optimists who can't abide anybody questioning them....

Looks precariously "good" right now though.

edit: looks fucking miserable but that Trump will get the boot

Yeah this is the exact scenario a ton of people (including many on this board) were predicting was gonna happen, I heard “Biden’s gonna win but Trump will be ahead on election night and will declare victory” takes everywhere. I don’t blame anyone for freaking out though given the stakes.

I mean yes it does appear that there will be severe polling errors in several states but why is everybody coming in here and dunking on people who were mildly optimistic Trump was gonna lose (which, btw, he's still likely to), as if this is a sporting event, and not something that is actually mentally and physically affecting us?

it's a dick move.

it's weird in that some states seem like they were called correctly, others off wildly

Yeah I really don’t care for Biden but why come and gloat over people upset at this moment ffs

Because several people were calling us the hysterical ones all year!
I'll say it again: you can't underestimate the racism and stupidity in this country. Though I admit I'm even taken a little aback that Trump has a higher vote count than 2016

I'm not yet sure how "the" Latinx vote went, but if "we" broke more for the current USA president than we did in 2016, it's a reminder that anti-Black racism in the USA is going nowhere.

xpost so you come into a thread taunting us when Trump actually is still likely to lose?

ok

like idk if you're aware, some of us live in *red states* and know full well of the racism and stupidity in the country. many on this board actually *experience* it on a regular basis.

if "we" broke more for the current USA president than we did in 2016, it's a reminder that anti-Black racism in the USA is going nowhere.

https://www.chapo.chat/pictrs/image/r1kGCRy2WN.jpg

White men not so bad after all?

as NWH's manager said in Fear of a Black Hat - "white man - no good"

Neanderthal I don't think anyone in here has been dunking on the "mildly optimistic." I count myself among the mildly optimistic!

It does seem though that when someone expresses a reasonable fear equal in emphasis to the expressions of reasonable confidence, that that person gets agressively shut down and told to shut the fuck up.

We have all been srsly traumatized and could use a little room to breathe when it comes to those fears

these pronouncements of what people were and weren't doing aren't especially helpful because they assume ILX posters are homogeneous, but they also rely on everybody's faulty memory. I'm not interested in going back through all of the threads and seeing who said what, and I know there was battling, but many people objected yesterday to the non-Trump is gonna win thread being shitted up with freakout posts that weren't based in any actual data. because some of us have anxiety and it triggers us.

this wasn't 2016. we were cocky in 2016. map yesterday said they were freaked out, so did ums, so did I for that matter - I don't think running into this thread like Nhex did and going HAHA SEE WE WERE RIGHT TO WORRY is helping anybody. I wasn't assuming a slam dunk yesterday even despite the odds. I was scared, even despite my optimism.

I had chest pain last night that was merely a bad panic attack that scared me for 5 mins.

so can we stop the Sharks vs Jets shit? if people wanna worry that Trump is gonna win, they can continue to post it here. but not the "rolling POINT AND CALL OUT YOUR FELLOW ILXOR FOR POSSIBLE CRIMES" thread. I can start that thread if need be.

https://www.chapo.chat/pictrs/image/r1kGCRy2WN.jpg

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:01 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

white men...welcome to the resistance

Xpost Agreed. I was saying to my husband last night that the problem isn't that I didn't know this country was full of racist idiots, but that the full extent of its idiotic racism is on full display during elections, and makes me never want to leave my majority-minority home city ever again, except to move to another place that isn't so godforsaken

if it makes you feel any better, my "haha" is more extreme bitterness than boastful dunking

i run into racist idiots all the time in my deep blue state. if i had to live in a red state i'd be even more hopeless

Purposely didn't post (or read) the thread up until now, partly because I thought it would be a rollercoaster of seeming different ways at different times. Mainly because of the red mirage stuff. Knowing about the red mirage factor didn't help the feeling of riding the rollercoaster

the red mirage will turn into a red dawn; with the help of mr. putin, we will drive these commie liberals from our shores once and for all

I was very optimistic. The polling was super stable (which to me implied it was accurate) and common sense told me any polling error would likely be in Biden’s favor. I’ll push back against the narrative that polls were wrong in 2016...they were only off by a point. And in 2018 they were pretty spot on. They missed big this time though. Bigger than Obama in 2012

to think that the type of person who'd vote for 2scoops might lie to pollsters. why i never

i still want to move to New Zealand

I’m sorry you got shook, but come on, Biden voters, JFC. There have been plenty of people everywhere — even on ILX — talking about how this would play out, from places of knowledge and experience, and you refused to actually honor them.

Now you’re stuck backpedaling furiously on the landslide narrative, in an effort to save face. Meanwhile, if Biden does somehow eke out a win, you’ll forget about this moment of uncertainty and double-down on your initial position and we’ll do some variation of this in four years.

If they were lying to pollsters then that’s a new thing that they didn’t do in 2016. And only in certain states it seems. There’s got to just be a major flaw in the polling methodology this year

what is with these sweeping generalizations that seem to be conflating ILX 2016 and ILX 2020.

Continued marginalizing of unorthodox voices by the politix threads’ ruling elite?

I get what you're saying, this is gonna be an all-time high turnout election and it's not 100% clear who all these new voters are

that said

1) there's a reason the GOP is trying so hard to get votes thrown out right now and
2) 2018 was a record setting midterm and that went pretty well for Dems

I can't see there being a significant chunk of people who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 who have been convinced based on how this term has went. but I do see plenty of people who didn't vote Clinton who are now very very enthusiastic about never having to hear from Donald Trump again. so my feeling is pretty good right now. but after 2016 I'm not gonna feel great until it's 100% clear that Biden won.

― frogbs, Tuesday, November 3, 2020 4:34 PM bookmarkflaglink

otm. Midterm /= presidential elections, but, uh, that evening Dems exceeded every expectation, the size of which became apparent a few days later.

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 4:39 PM bookmarkflaglink

Trump's base didn't grow and if anything may have shrunk a tiny amount in four years, and it was only ever a third or less of the population. plus a lot of them died because they were 116 years old.

I am feeling ok so far.

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 4:46 PM bookmarkflaglink

― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:38 PM bookmarkflaglink

Thanks guys

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:39 PM bookmarkflaglink

if this election is even close there’s a pretty simple chant for democrats

COUNT
THE
VOTES

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:45 PM bookmarkflaglink

just had a small panic attack

sometimes I like to make orrible jokes with me ilxor chums to pretend like I don't care that much but then it creeps up and honestly if Trump wins how do we go on??

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:50 PM bookmarkflaglink

who has standing to sue the Postal Service?

cos this isn't "someone got an absentee ballot and didn't return it", this is someone completed a ballot, sent it, had it accepted by USPS, and then never had it delivered.

hopefully some of them noticed and went to vote in person (if their state allows them to spoil it). but file lawsuit IMO - even if Biden wins, this cannot stand.

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:54 PM bookmarkflaglink

yeah i was feeling good this morning but i'm a little panicky now

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:55 PM bookmarkflaglink

i'm panicky but not because of any reason other than "fuck, we're here"

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:58 PM bookmarkflaglink

yeah

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:59 PM bookmarkflaglink

i could do with a snack tbh

― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:59 PM bookmarkflaglink

i can do with a pill that ends in -cet

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 6:01 PM bookmarkflaglink

Fuck I would gobble a perc

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 3, 2020 6:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

man look at how cocky we all were!

You’re not implicated ! And also I’m not talking about yesterday, but the 27438283 days prior where rather than engaging with minority points or view, there’s a tendency to ignore, denigrate and mansplain.

If they were lying to pollsters then that’s a new thing that they didn’t do in 2016. And only in certain states it seems. There’s got to just be a major flaw in the polling methodology this year

the major flaw is failing to account for republican cheating. how does nate silver factor in "conservative" dirty tricks? we all know they do it, but how do you quantify it? that's gotta be a tough one

xp
I got tired of all the excited early turnout reporting in the run-up, but saw it as mostly people not having anything actually concrete to discuss while being unable to talk about anything else, not so much a "landslide narrative."

OTOH, today isn't really the day for this, but there are def some frustrating tendencies in the US politics threads.

Isn't 306-232 still on the cards as a distinct possibility? Not a landslide but not ekeing either