Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

lol otm

ugh what a tedious episode.

wonder if detmer's going to get herself checked out or wait until she loses it during a critical mission.

this was so low stakes and low interest that i didn't notice any mention of music until burnham brought it up at the end.

no mention of giotto in the long wikipedia entry on perspective. i could crack open gombrich's history of art, otoh it was someone from another planet 200 years in the future so i could cut them some slack.

Giotto advanced the development of perspective, but not quite how Saru described.

OK I completely missed that that was Cronenberg lol. BTW what was his deal? He seemed more... across things other people did not know? How'd he know about the terrans and the mirror universe? How was that a casual "oh yeah ppl stopped coming across from there 500 years back"? I felt like i missed something.

cronenberg knows all and sees all

lol

"why the glasses?"
"I dunno I thought they made me look smart..."

I assume that DS9's mirror universe stuff made it into Starfleet reports, so the paper trail is there.

Ah now this may be where I'm at a disadvantage. If there's any assumed knowledge of other series, I'm gonna miss things, Ive not seem more than S1 of DS9.

DS9 hardly ever gets referenced by the other series -- the Alpha Quadrant fights a war that requires a combined alliance among THREE major powers, and Voyager and the movies act like that never happened -- but the real reason to watch DS9 is because it's the best Trek.

otm

I dont mind what I have seen but I get so put off by Quark/ferengis in general.

imo for DS9 you can watch the debut then skip to s03

you'll miss some largely unimportant character development and a few cool episodes but it's fine

also yes, you *can* skip *almost* all of the ferengi episodes, although i wouldn't recommend it -- they become much much better and even vital as the series progresses

e6: another mess. planet situation unexplained until around halfway through the episode. The character vignettes don't work when I have no idea what is happening.

i thought it was good! also i feel like we are maybe watching different shows lol

i am liking it, although i have to say the vulcans did a pretty shitty job of raising burnham to be logical/non-emotional

also she obviously is no longer meant for starfleet, so kick her out already

can someone remind me why georgiou loves burnham? i mean, i like it, but iirc mirror burnham fucked her over and she doesn't really seem like the type to be sentimental about it

anyway she continues to be the most intersting character, goofy blinking shit aside

no explanation has been given.

the entire arc of starlet captains (insubordinates, etc) is "is this person REALLY up to starfleet?" and burnham is on that

the mirror universe was 100% drama and really the more burnham pulls from georgiou the more she loves her

starlet = starfleet lol

geoegiou/michelle yeoh is fantastic

i also liked the stuff between the trill girl and the spore guy (so bad with the names of characters in this show)

wondered what that final confrontation would have been like if Pike was captain

would he have yelled?

i feel like maybe. she reaaaaaaally fucked up

the trill girl

u just canceled urself

:(

i want to know whose idea it was that saru do that behind-the-back arm-swishing thing, because it is annoying and brilliant

YES

wondered what that final confrontation would have been like if Pike was captain

Saru is so soft! I guess there's no point in him pretending that he has a standard hierarchical relationship with his crew after all they've been through. When he was talking to Tilly in particular, I was thinking, what captain talks this way with an ensign? (Not complaining about it, I know it's not real life or anything, I just noticed it.) On a related note, Tilly is long overdue a promotion.

agree!

Ah now this may be where I'm at a disadvantage. If there's any assumed knowledge of other series, I'm gonna miss things, Ive not seem more than S1 of DS9.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:13 PM bookmarkflaglink

DS9 hardly ever gets referenced by the other series -- the Alpha Quadrant fights a war that requires a combined alliance among THREE major powers, and Voyager and the movies act like that never happened -- but the real reason to watch DS9 is because it's the best Trek.

― I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Monday, November 16, 2020 6:16 PM bookmarkflaglink

I take back what I said, definitely catch up on the entirety of DS9 to really get the self sealing stem bolts joke.

lotta weeping in this show

With Michael suddenly being proud sis to her estranged brother, I'd complain about Disco ignoring its own characterizations, but hey, that's a time-honored Trek tradition.

Enjoyed the last season but feel weirdly uncommitted to catching up this time, after the first three episodes. Missing anything?

man i loved this episode

i cant really bring much critical analysis to the table but just the way Michael’s estranged relationship with her mom was mirrored in her estrangement from Vulcan AND the Federation, it was v meaningful & i liked the way it played out. but especially on the mother daughter level, it felt v real & well-observed

i love the relationships on this show

I liked the Picard-crossover of bringing the Qowat Milat back in!

But uuugghh Burnham stop weeping so much it is not befitting of a supposed commander.

man u guys are harsh lol

People seem to like the Trill episode, #4. But I hate the b-plot on the ship.

i'm really enjoying this, and it certainly is a rebound from complaints that earlier seasons were too grimdark

booker seems mostly wasted so far, apart from getting burnham laid. (and who else is getting laid besides stamets and hugh? gene roddenberry would never approve.) best new character = grudge, although i like the admiral

also detmer's eyes are so enormous that it's distracting

Is there still a story simmering in the background re her and the episodes she kept happening? That all seems to have stopped. I thought she had nanites in her or something. Or was all that just "I am fucking broken cos I piloted a ship through a wormhole and crashlanded it on a planet"?

happening = having

gah.

yeah i thought so too but think it ended up being the PTSD that Dr Ricky offered to talk to her about

Is this the only episode where nobody shoots or punches each other or blows something up?

it felt like being punched when the vulcan woman used the phrase’a big ask’

she punched me (it felt like a big ask) 🎵

Yeah that was almost as bad as "JL" on Picard.

dont remind me >:(

never seen anyone with eyes as enormous as detmer’s. half her face is eyeball

linus must be in love, although i can’t tell if detmer and owosekun the navigator or together or what

look up fka twigs

haven’t watched this week’s yet, have they given the blonde who reacts with wild facial expressions to everything some more lines yet?