NYT: The 25 Greatest Actors of the 21st Century

Oscar Isaac? I can't pinpoint one movie where I would say he was great.

Binoche would be in my top five.

wow, she's not on the list?!

Cary Grant and Bette Davis, two of the best actors of the 21st Century.

― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:55 PM bookmarkflaglink

he said GARY CRANT, cant u READ

Ruffalo is one that I would have included (largely on the strength of YCCOM, but he's been good in a lot of things since).

Dafoe is very good in both The Florida Project and Pasolin, and I wasn't even crazy about either of those films. The Lighthouse and At Eternity's Gate have their fans as well (haven't seen either).

its sad to learn this way that meryl streep has died

it's ok, you're with friends now

Does Gary Crant make lo-fi hip-hop beats to study/relax to?

I don’t even understand that tweet since most of those actors died before 2000?

I didn't realize Joaquin Phoenix was still alive. Yes I know River Phoenix died, I'm not confusing them. I just assumed they had both died.

xpost they didn't understand their own tweet either

Shit list but Deneuve or Swinton take this easy for me

i picked one of the people i'd never heard of

He is also known for portraying Sagat in Street Fighter (1994).

He is the only actor to appear in all six of Marvel's Netflix television series.

A few of the missing include Kaitlin Dever, Merritt Wever and Toni Collette... and that's just the cast of Unbelievable!

which is to say this is a very silly list

03. Daniel Day-Lewis
04. Keanu Reeves

i like keanu as much as anyone but this is a pretty hilarious juxtaposition

Keanu absolutely belongs on this list

Tempted by Huppert, Day-Lewis, Swinton & Isaac, but Kidman wins this wins for me on range and role choices. My write-in would be PS Hoffman, or another character actor like Jared Harris or Ciarán Hinds.

Casey Affleck

My 10 favourite, I think (sorry, all English-speaking; just don't keep up enough with non-English films), and my favourite performances:

1. Philip Seymour Hoffman (the must-be-living rule makes no sense to me; Almost Famous, Punch Drunk Love, Capote, The Ides of March, The Master)
2. Carrie Coon (The Leftovers, Fargo, Gone Girl, The Nest)
3. Mark Ruffalo (You Can Count on Me, Zodiac, The Kids Are All Right, Margaret)
4. Laura Linney (You Can Count on Me, The Squid and the Whale, Ozark)
5. Nicole Kidman (Margot at the Wedding, Rabbit Hole, Boy Erased, Big Little Lies)
6. Mahershala Ali (House of Cards, True Detective, Moonlight)
7. Joaquin Phoenix (The Master, Her, Joker)
8. Greta Gerwig (Greenberg, Damsels in Distress, Frances Ha, Mistress America, Maggie's Plan, 20th Century Women)
9. Elisabeth Moss (Mad Men, Listen Up Phillip, Us)
10. Adam Driver (Frances Ha, Inside Llewyn Davis, While We're Young, Paterson, BlacKkKlansman)

Quite sure I overlooked someone.

I'm lucky enough that I got to see PSH when he was in Long Day's Journey into Night on Broadway, and it was among the most tremendous performances I've ever seen any human being give. He was really something.

My mom actually called me sobbing when he died!

He was better than good in even the most minor stuff (Red Dragon, Love Liza, Moneyball); honestly, I think he should top any list for this century.

No mentions of Laura Dern so far????

I'm not her biggest fan, but for Certain Women, Big Little Lies, and Marriage Story alone--forgot to list that for Adam Driver--I could see that. (There was some TV film, too.)

Inland Empire! Twin Peaks! Enlightened!

she was great in Inland Empire, Enlightened, and Twin Peaks: The Return

:)

glad to see Zhao Tao and Kim Min-hee on this list

He was an obviously massive actor, but he wasn't faultless. PSH in Punch-Drunk Love was awful.

Agreed. I also think Love Liza is one of his major films, but that's a very personal bias-- that film rips me to shreds every time.

I found him scary in Punch-Drunk Love. Probably the one film of his I flat-out didn't like was Lumet's last.

He's brilliant in the far-from-flawless film Flawless as well.

xpost yeah, well that movie was just awful from top to bottom

have to see it again, I barely remember it

Voted Saoirse Ronan to annoy all of you

DDL, Saoirse, Joaquin or Zach

Saoirse is amazing. Her performance in Brooklyn is really something. I like the film too actually. It's old-fashioned good but it does what it does extremely well.

I don't know if I've voted yet, tbh, but Saoirse and Melissa were up there. Not that I think that Melissa is the greatest actor or anything but I'm a huge fan of Can You Ever Forgive Me? and I enjoy her a lot in that and more generally.

One of these four...

Isabelle Huppert
Zhao Tao
Viola Davis
Tilda Swinton

appreciated the greta gerwig mention -- I don't know where she stacks up really, but I loved her in FRANCES HA so much

I’d find it hard to pick among:

Isabelle Huppert
Daniel Day-Lewis
Song Kang Ho
Joaquin Phoenix
Tilda Swinton
Willem Dafoe
Mahershala Ali

But my write-in is Laura Dern.

Zhao Tao obv but acting is nonsense and this list is nonsense

Oh and no lovely Adam Driver = get the fuck out

acting is nonsense and this list is nonsense

I don't put much stock in the list, NV, but I think acting is hugely underrated when it comes to understanding why you love the films you do. There was an immense body of theory that came along in the '60s and '70s centered around the director; over time, I drifted away from that and began to realize how many of my favourite films were mostly about the performances.

Which would go a long way, for me, to explaining why Mad Men and The Sopranos were more important to me this past decade (I was late) than almost any film: multiple directors, but an amazing core ensemble and a supporting cast that was continually changing and always great.

theatre requires actors, movies require personalities, but I do agree that great performances are at the core of my favorite films/shows.

I think the personality vs. acting point is true sometimes, but I wouldn't want to pin down where that line is. That was the view of John Wayne for a long time, but I think the general consensus now is that he gives performances of subtlety and depth in The Searchers, Red River, and other films. And I know I didn't put Carrie Coon second on my list because she's some definable personality I respond to; she's just a great actress.

I mean certainly there are tons of movie actors that are capable of and deliver great acting performances, sure. I just meant it's easier to get by with just a personality in film if you're not necessarily great at your craft (without the movies suffering for it). I am actually shooting my first movie (an amateur hobby production, not something that will be seen anywhere) after years of theatre and it's so bizarre to me. I had a hard time adjusting.

some of that in theatre for sure (Ethel Merman), but seems less true in modern age of theatre.

She has three fewer Oscars total than Green Book won last year.

Citizen Kane (10.0)
Mank (6.0)
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (7.0)
Hillbilly Elegy (5.5)
Affairs of State (2.0)
Blume in Love (6.5)
Mario Puzo's The Godfather, Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone (5.0)
The Parallax View (7.0)
The Killing of a Sacred Deer (6.5)
The Net (6.5)

I have no excuse for last rating, other than to say it’s an example, for me, of some of what I was trying to say in this thread: NYT: The 25 Greatest Actors of the 21st Century. Early in her career, I really liked Sandra Bullock.

Oops, wrong thread.

Julianne Moore turned 60 this week.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Departed from my initial post and voted for Nicole Kidman, possibly edged in that direction by seeing The Killing of a Sacred Deer (I want to give her credit for Eyes Wide Shut, too, which came out in the summer of '99 and maybe was still playing somewhere in January of 2000).

clem's accidental post above had me genuinely trying to work out which of these actors could have possibly appeared in Citizen Kane for oh, at least 10 seconds

God this list sucks.

List this God sucks

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

04. Keanu Reeves 5
21. Catherine Deneuve 1

never change ilx

1 dude in the top 5? I'll take it.

voted for Zhao Tao, would have liked to see Kim Min-hee get a vote or two

04. Keanu Reeves 5
21. Catherine Deneuve 1

never change ilx

― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:24 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

1 dude in the top 5? I'll take it.

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Never change ilx

Whatever, dudes suck and you know it.

🎶Some dudes will
Some dudes wont 🎶

1 dude in the top 5? I'll take it.

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:49 (one hour ago)

Never change ilx

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, December 30, 2020 1:21 PM (one hour ago)

two Irish actors in the top 5? never change, ILX

this is not a poll to take too seriously