Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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oops, the gap is a bit further north than i thought and Redditch probably a bit further south

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:32 (four years ago)

Stoke feels more North because weird accent and permanent glacial temperatures caused by locals clinging to the last Ice Age

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:33 (four years ago)

tbf have heard Londoners confuse Watford Gap with Watford and think St Albans is in the north

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:36 (four years ago)

I saw this bungalow getting done up recently, it's in the middle of nowhere next to a farm and I've never seen such a long and expensive refurb done on one little small modest bungalow as this - it took almost a year and no expense was spared including an antique royal mail postbox mounted into the drystone wall and a lovely big wooden gate, the sandstone roofing tiles were removed cleaned of moss and a whole new roofing timber was fitted before they were put back. I bumped into an old work colleague doing the alarm system, door entry systems and sec cameras etc and said it was like fort knox. Anyway it turns out it is the new Savile Estate Office and this current Lord Savile lives in Cornwall but his family have owned most of where I live since late medieval times. Real Yorkshire!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:49 (four years ago)

🐦[“These places began to fall to the Tories in 2017 before leaving Labour en masse in 2019"

Really?

Must have imagined Labour losing Shipley, Manchester Withington, Rochdale and Scarborough in 2005
And Dewsbury, Redditch, Redcar and Bradford East in 2010https://t.co/4Yo536XzHV🕸
— Andrew Fisher (@FisherAndrew79) December 9, 2020🕸]🐦

the Graun's northern correspondent mindlessly parroting Kieth's nakedly factional slant on the decline of Labour in the north shocker.


this is an important point the labour election review, which i really must finish reading for the sheer fun of it, makes. but it really is politically illiterate not to know this:

The seeds of the loss go much further back to the 2000s and before

A longer view of voting trends in these seats indicates that the roots of these losses go further back than 2017.

Over the last two decades, the Conservatives have steadily increased their votes and seats across all the nations and regions of Great Britain, except in London. They took the lead in the Midlands a decade ago. Meanwhile Labour declined dramatically in every region between 2001 and 2010, losing most seats in Southern England as well as many in the Midlands and North.17

In many English and Welsh constituencies, the Conservatives have been achieving significant increases in vote share since 2010. These Conservative advances often followed in the wake of falls in Labour support evident from the 2001 election onwards.

This pattern of Labour support dropping and remaining at a lower level, followed after some delay by cumulative increases in Conservative vote share, can be seen in seats that Labour lost in this election (such as Rother Valley or North West Durham). This is also true in seats that had already been lost (such as Amber Valley or Cannock Chase).

Seats lost in 2019 such as Bolsover, Sedgefield and Walsall North are among 12 seats in England and Wales that have seen a cumulative swing from Labour to Conservative of more than 25 points since 2005.

A further 27 seats in England and Wales, most of them in the North and Midlands, have seen swings of more than 21 points from Labour to Conservative since 2005 – some of them lost before 2019 such as Tamworth or Amber Valley, and others such as Normanton, Pontefract & Castleford and Barnsley East that were retained.

The 2019 election result thus confirms and exacerbates profound shifts in political representation that, in some cases, have been underway for many years.

Fizzles, Friday, 11 December 2020 07:01 (four years ago)

two weeks pass...

Is there a *paper* Guardian today?

djh, Saturday, 26 December 2020 12:52 (four years ago)

hopefully not

Left, Saturday, 26 December 2020 12:57 (four years ago)

last week's guide had 2 weeks of tv in it so i'm assuming not.

koogs, Saturday, 26 December 2020 13:55 (four years ago)

There is one (with magazine and Feast).

djh, Saturday, 26 December 2020 14:33 (four years ago)

it's feast or famine time

calzino, Saturday, 26 December 2020 15:02 (four years ago)

Oh lol Jesus Christ I thought that was in ukpol

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 26 December 2020 15:46 (four years ago)

John Harris notes that Orwell is pertinent to Britain today.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/27/history-britain-ruling-class-created-crisis-boris-johnson-brexit-covid

the pinefox, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:14 (four years ago)

Surprised no one remarked on this.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/26/hancocks-half-hour-britain-laughing-1950-radio-comedy

the pinefox, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:15 (four years ago)

Hancock's Half Hour reminds us what once united Britain: laughing at each other
Zoe Williams

Before Tony Hancock and Sid James even touch on what they hate about cappuccino and kebabs, they take a detour via cleanliness – “All this hygiene stuff may be very nice but it takes all the charm out of things”. This is actually the core case of the anti-mask brigade: the ones who say it’s an infringement of their civil liberties are pilfering the line from their US counterparts. Most of them just find it charmless: life is when you can see one another’s faces. Anything else is less like life.

Hancock hates young people, whose crime is their youth plus intellectualism (“Sitting there with their green fingernails and their omnibus edition of Ibsen”). I mean, hear the timeless gentleman out: he could be talking about snowflakes. He could be Nigel Farage.

the pinefox, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:19 (four years ago)

jesus fucking wept

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 December 2020 10:25 (four years ago)

"This is actually the core case of the anti-mask brigade: the ones who say it’s an infringement of their civil liberties are pilfering the line from their US counterparts. Most of them just find it charmless: life is when you can see one another’s faces. Anything else is less like life."

No evidence for this statement, and it doesn't even feel intuitively true. Unfortunately it's a defence of people who are consciously posing a danger to public health.

the pinefox, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:28 (four years ago)

i've been following Peter Hitchens on Twitter and altho he tries to use the language of science for a lot of his anti-covid rhetoric you get these occasional Freudian insights - he thinks masks make us look "foolish" or "weak"

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2020 10:39 (four years ago)

"They fuck you up, your mum and dad.."

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:49 (four years ago)

I mean the Hitchens bros were posh military brats in the last days of Empire.

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:50 (four years ago)

Zoe Williams, please stop posting.

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:54 (four years ago)

Lol correct, didn’t she have that stupid take about two weeks before the start of second wave about how gr8 it is to work in an office

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 11:48 (four years ago)

Zoe Williams is a Guardian columnist.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 28 December 2020 13:56 (four years ago)

you missed out "Tragically," at the beginning there

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2020 13:58 (four years ago)

"Novels are terrible and you'll never convince me otherwise." We don’t need fiction – the real world is strange enough. Plus, fancy writing is incomprehensible, argues Ben Butler. Lucy Clark tries to prove him wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/28/novels-are-terrible-and-youll-never-convince-me-otherwise

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:25 (four years ago)

ok

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:26 (four years ago)

i promise never to try to convince this man otherwise or to even think about him ever again

plax (ico), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:29 (four years ago)

The plodding mundanity of Ben’s mind shows me exactly why people read novels.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:39 (four years ago)

Seriously, never trust people who go off about how intrinsically lesser fiction is and how they’d rather be reading a hagiography of some cunt. Basically take the John Waters view on non-fiction braggers.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:40 (four years ago)

it's all fiction really

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:41 (four years ago)

I have no idea what’s happening and little interest in putting in the work of figuring it out.

Lol, I fucking bet.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:43 (four years ago)

i say ban non-fiction too… the thing happened! why are we just feebly repeating it print, who does that help?

mark s, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:44 (four years ago)

Ben Butler is Guardian Australia's senior business reporter

could've just printed that, save bothering with the article

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 December 2020 17:45 (four years ago)

I'm possibly putting it a bit simplistic here, but even if someone spends 10 years studying the soviet archives and writes an account of life in the soviet union, it's still their story, filtered through their own biases etc

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:47 (four years ago)

anyway Daniil Kharms was the only real non-fiction writer

calzino, Monday, 28 December 2020 17:54 (four years ago)

Ben Butler is Guardian Australia's senior business reporter

lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 28 December 2020 22:57 (four years ago)

Kingdoms may rise and kingdoms may fall, but some things never change - L@ur@ B@rt0n among them.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/29/i-was-bored-of-chats-about-house-prices-and-polyamory-but-i-had-a-secret-plan-for-happiness

It was January when I decided that salvation might lie in facts. I was in the Mojave desert, watching the sun rise over Seven Magic Mountains – Ugo Rondinone’s much-Instagrammed neon-rock sculpture in the Ivanpah Valley.

josef cake (Matt #2), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 11:01 (four years ago)

Lol she just can't help herself. I never see people on twitter sharing Laura Barton links with comments like "brilliant piece is this" perhaps all her readership are too busy joining creative communities and attending pop-up restaurants and festivals... eh what fucking year is this?!

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 12:05 (four years ago)

Our house was still not ready when the lease on the rented flat expired and – having gambled on readiness – we had nowhere to live. Days before we had to move out, we were desperately casting around. With immense kindness, my best friend stepped in. He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London.

||||||||, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:10 (four years ago)

O the humanity!

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:12 (four years ago)

never heard of this columnist before sounds hillaria

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:15 (four years ago)

one of my faves of this genre of myopic priv-class blathering was when the late Deborah Orr was pondering something like: why is everyone so critical of zero-hour contracts? what about people like my friend who likes to teach Yoga part-time occasionally and not be constrained by something as vulgar as a full-time working week.

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 17:31 (four years ago)

i thought spare rooms were luxurious and this guy's got a spare flat!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:01 (four years ago)

"oh, this old thing? i run it out every few months just to keep the rust off"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:02 (four years ago)

this from the guardian’s “analysis” of the new BBC chairman appointment:

Sharp’s appointment to the BBC could be a sign of the “Sunakification” of the British establishment, whatever that means.

well i think you’ve really nailed that. identified a really important process in the framework of institutional governance. if it is a process. and idk governance what the hell is that is it just a word? not really sure what i mean by framework either like a climbing frame maybe i guess.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 January 2021 07:53 (four years ago)

>>> Our house was still not ready when the lease on the rented flat expired and – having gambled on readiness – we had nowhere to live. Days before we had to move out, we were desperately casting around. With immense kindness, my best friend stepped in. He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London.

Where's that from? Not ms Barton!

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 January 2021 09:54 (four years ago)

So bad it needed to be posted twice.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:16 (four years ago)

Didn't he used to post here or am I confusing him with someone?

the hold my beer putsch (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:20 (four years ago)

yes he did!

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:23 (four years ago)

He has a tiny, spare, one-bedroom flat opposite our house, in which family members stay when they come to London (yes, I know, a spare flat. But all I can do is thank goodness he has it).

does everyone at the Graun have a friend who just happens to have a spare fucking flat in London?

calzino, Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:25 (four years ago)


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