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Watching ROMPAN TODO, a documentary about Latin American rock from the 1950s to the present. Six episodes, of which I've only seen the first. It was really good, though, talking about how it all started with a couple of Mexican bands covering US rock 'n' roll hits but translating the lyrics into Spanish (sometimes substantially altering them in the process). Those acts took off big time in Argentina, Uruguay, etc., and local groups sprung up in their wake, scenes growing organically like they do. A lot of the music they play is great - if you've never heard Los Saicos from Peru, by all means check them out; they're some of the most snarling garage punk you'll ever hear. Lots of footage from old Latin American TV shows etc. to break up the usual music-doc talking heads.

I suppose "Wonder Woman" is the first real test to see if "event stream" can even be a thing.

Except that Mulan already happened. And that it's been out for a week in cinemas outside HBO Max territories already, to little acclaim or excitement.

Or would something like "Palm Springs" have ridden the buzz it generated and been a breakout theatrical hit?

Seems plausible. The streaming model (evinced by Netflix TV series passim) of 3-8 days solid buzz and then disappearing into a cultural memory hole really transferred to this. It had the great Sundance publicity, the cheeky hook of adding 69c to the record purchase price, it being good & able to play to teen and adult audiences. Opening in select cinemas and then spreading as word of mouth grew - maybe going wide in the second weekend, so the hook didn't get spoiled too much - could have really paid off for it.

See also Happiest Season, set for a cinema release at Thanksgiving. As theatres started shuttering again, they made a rush sale to Hulu, who promptly reported their highest streaming premiere numbers ever, and their biggest rush of signups ever, from people getting accounts and immediately watching the lesbian Christmas romcom. (Hulu then quickly bought the self-produced Xmas special by two Seattle drag queens who make a one-scene cameo in the movie!) But without box office numbers, or any independent verification of viewership, it's culturally non-existent. Strong first-week lesbian ticket sales for a PG-rated family film could, given reportage, totally have transferred to family ticket sales, and made a genuine box office hit by Christmas.

i've watched Palm Springs three times now. so funny. not relevant to this argument, just plugging the movie again for anyone who hasn't seen it.

A lot of the music they play is great - if you've never heard Los Saicos from Peru, by all means check them out; they're some of the most snarling garage punk you'll ever hear.

I second the hell out of this.

I sort of feel like there was no real Mulan-mentum to begin with. Plus, there was that premium fee (even for Disney+ subscribers) aspect to it, which further skewed the experiment. And Mulan and Wonder Woman were both moved around a bunch even before Covid, weren't they? I dunno, I guess that's why I think there's at least some future for theaters. You just can't beat the money that model brings in. Even muddled misfires like Mulan or Wonder Woman (I guess?) or Tenet would have likely taken in tons more, in normal circumstances, as would have something small like Palm Springs and the like. I suppose at this point the lack of streaming transparency means we just don't really know how a "hit" like Mandalorian, or Queen's Gambit, or Stranger Things or whatever, even translates to actual earnings. Though as for the reverse, as Soderbergh pointed out, Downton Abbey, a modest-budgeted movie based on a TV show, managed to make 10 times its cost on the big screen.

The posters for Wonder Woman at the drive-in still say ONLY IN THEATRES. Maybe we can get a class-action suit whereby anyone who goes to see it gets HBO Max free for life six months, until AT&T goes broke.

anyone else watch the flight attendant? fun bit of pulpy nonsense

What NOT to watch this holiday season! There are a lot of emotions during the holiday season and these are the actors & movies to avoid! Broken down on the new @iamrapaport podcast @hearluminary

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this is not a week for Christian Bale

gotta admit i laughed

Glad to hear Rompan Todo starts off good, was not expecting a series named for a Los Shakers song! Fingers crossed for an episode devoted to La Conferencia Secreta Del Toto's Bar. Looks like Cafe Tacuba appear prominently, I'd imagine that alone makes it worthwhile.

I've watched 5 episodes of Rompan Todo now (out of 6) and it's been really good throughout. I hear that episode 6 suffers from "gotta squeeze them in too" syndrome, but episode 5 was heavily focused on Café Tacvba and Aterciopelados, with shorter bits on Los Fabulosos Cadillacs and Los Tres, and the parts on Maldita Vecindad in episode 4 were great. I saw a bunch of these groups live in the 90s and early 00s - Café Tacvba twice, Maldita Vecindad on a reunion tour in 2008 or so, Jaguares (a hard rock trio formed by ex-members of Caifanes) and a package tour with Aterciopelados, Babasónicos, and Los Enanitos Verdes - and the shows were always phenomenal, not just in terms of performance but in terms of the waves of energy coming off the audience. Watching concert footage from South America and seeing thousands upon thousands of people bouncing up and down in unison is amazing.

wow, i didn't know that existed! thanks for the heads up.

Me neither, that's awesome! Saw a couple of great shows from Cafe Tacuba and Aterciopelados, though my fave was always Julietta Venegas.

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Probably one for the Netflix thread

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Which one of you knuckleheads recommended "Ted Lasso"? Because we love it!

it's great!

could have been designed for COVID viewing really

just finished Ted Lasso, about as charming as could be

I have Apple TV for a couple more weeks - anything else that's required viewing (watched the Beastie Boys thing)

We're a couple episodes into Patriot (thanks again to you knuckleheads). It's good! If anyone had ever thought to market it as 'Todd Margaret joins the CIA' I would've been on top of it much sooner.

Patriot is absolutely fantastic

Cool Rick 4 Life

that show really got to me
maybe the best depiction of depression ever

hey so Doom Patrol is 100% lit

and what the government takes from people, their humanity

xpost I'm pretty much completely burnt out on most DC tv shows at this point but yes, Doom Patrol is pretty great. Pleasantly surprising how much of Morrison's run they repurposed for the show (and frustratingly weird that they chose to credit the original DP creators but not afaict the dude who created most of the characters and scenarios depicted onscreen).

Drake and Premiani have been dead for years / decades, Morrison is not only alive but actively producing TV in Hollywood, and potentially able to have a fancy agent negosh real $ on top of Levitzbucks. Safer to pretend he doesn't exist.

last couple years of Twitter had made me want to punch comic books in the face

I stopped reading comic books altogether a few years ago and it was honestly liberating; I don't know when I transitioned from "I enjoy these stories" to "I hate everything about this but it's part of my identity now" but once I realized that that had happened, it was great to stop spending that money and just enjoy the movies and tv shows based on comic book characters like a normie

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First season of The Patriot was as good as anything I've ever seen on television, the quality really shocked me. On top of everything else it does right, I find the metaphor of abusive father/broken son to amoral government/patriot to be a truly original tv construct. Does season 2 hold up?

I liked the first ep of Doom Patrol but got distracted; maybe i should go back?

s2 of patriot is a slight step down but still worth watching if you enjoyed s1

yeah you can kind of see how the momentum couldn't maintain over a third season...there are some plot convulutions that are are harder to swallow but for me it didn't diminish my enjoyment

I would like to see a reboot with the same cast and a plot/circumstance reset

i wasn't sure how it could maintain the S1 level of quality tbh, so much hinged on the newness of the way it presented ideas and scenarios! Will have a go at it soon. Definitely reenergized to try Perpetual Grace Ltd now.

I would like to see a reboot with the same cast and a plot/circumstance reset

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lol, in keeping with my Todd Margaret comparison upthread.

Something new/old that i got into this week is NHK Japan's DEEP OCEAN from 2015, which is four episodes of super alien deep sea ichthyology narrated by David Attenborough that will leave you in constant amazement at the weirdness of the natural plan. Get to know the jellynose fish! The Mariana snailfish! The bioluminescent barbeled dragonfish!

The best part: Joe Hisaishi, the music director responsible for all the Ghibli/Miyazaki films did the score for the whole series and it is FUCKING MAGICAL. I can see rewatching this for sleepytimes in perpetuity.

It was recently ported over to HBO Max in the US, though the fourth episode (set in the Antarctic) is oddly AWOL. You should try it!

also on apple tv!

this Ted Lasso show is adorable. I was missing Sudeikis after the underrated Son of Zorn

it's kind of a pity Ted Lasso isn't a big NBC show or on Netflix, feels like it could have that Office/Parks and Rec mass appeal

it ultimately may! neither of those were huge hits on first release iirc and parks and rec in particular struggled through its whole run to keep an audience.

oh I just mean I don't think Apple TV quite has the juice to make something that mainstream

Yeah, Ted Lasso sounds like something I would love, but I’m not paying for Apple TV for one show.

protip if you have bought an iPhone/iPad/Mac recently, they come with a free year of apple TV+

Unfortunately it’s been over a year since we bought any new Mac product, but that’s good to know.

Yeah, that's the only reason we have it. My daughter watched a couple of episodes with us and she noted the Parks and Recs vibe. Ted's positive vibe is very Leslie Knope.

Recommend everyone find some friends/family to split the cost of Apple One. Up to six people!

Alice in Borderland is extremely stressful

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