in orbit, that is most of my work life. The position description literally includes "ability to lead without authority."
So I can't demand things, I can only try to sell people on the benefits of doing what I want. There is a lot of persuasion and negotiation and consensus-engineering involved. Reflexive self-deprecation is strategic in these instances.
"You folks are the experts, but..." "Hate to be the Meeting Tyrant, but..." "I know everyone's crazy busy, but..."
― display names are for n00bs (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
Oh god YMP that sounds...challenging. To one's sanity. That was the (mostly) unspoken/unacknowledged nature of my last two jobs and I don't think I could do that again.
In nonprofit spaces a "postmortem" will sometimes be called a "plus/delta" where pluses are the things that went right and deltas are suggested changes.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
Again, very softening language that prioritizes growth & doesn't blame.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
you mean "builds"
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
"learnings"
and yes i agree there is a good motivation behind these partic euphemisms
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
LEARNINGS
For people who can’t hold knowledge or take lessons.
― scampopo (suzy), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
Also sounds like it’s a German person trying to find the right word, no matter who says it.
― scampopo (suzy), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
Teachings vs learnings
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
“jab”Please stop it, can’t believe the britishers infected us with this childish affectation
― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
lol owned
― Towards a Britain-Free Planet (Left), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
people at my company say "learns" as a noun. I've never heard this before coming here. "What learns can we take away from today's training session?"
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
“jab”Please stop it, can’t believe the britishers infected us with this childish affectation― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, February 25, 2021 4:30 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Please stop it, can’t believe the britishers infected us with this childish affectation
― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, February 25, 2021 4:30 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
jab? as in an injection?
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link
As in ‘cultural learnings of America’?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
xps
― pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
Mmmm this can be a really important tactic to soften a question, if you are outranked by all the people you're presenting to. In fact a number of things noted here re teaching & facilitating are actually strategies to mollify & appear positive and unthreatening to listeners.― Ima Gardener (in orbit)
― Ima Gardener (in orbit)
It is, yeah. Thanks for articulating this, I couldn't quite get the right words for it. For me it's rarely a rank thing, more wanting/feeling a need to be deferential to clients. I worry that it comes off as lacking confidence, though, and I feel like lacking confidence probably comes off worse than being too 'forward'..? Guess it depends on industry/clients.
'jab' annoys me too.
But I hate learnings the most, learnings is the worst one.
― salsa shark, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
I want to use this in a presentation some day:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/fc/a1/95fca1b5e282449ac701d93aeecb6e81.png
― jmm, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
'jab' better than 'shot' imo. We get it, you like to shoot things
― kinder, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
"Sick to my stomach" is one I really hate actually
― kinder, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
‘Jab’ and ‘shot’ are both fine.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
so much for the teaches of Peaches
― The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link
― Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
Canadian media constantly uses the phrase "top doctor" to refer to the chief public health officer of a given region. "Ontario's top doctor," "Canada's top doctor," etc. It's constant. It's this bit of conspicuous journalese, kind of like "shots in arms," that starts to grate really fast.
"Top soldier" has gotten popular as well.
― jmm, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
The softening language discussion reminded me that about 6 months into the pandemic, my partner and I noticed we were both unfailingly saying "I think I might" instead of "I'm going to." So "I think I might go for a walk" while already putting on shoes, "I think I might have a beer" on the way to the fridge, etc.
We couldn't figure out how it started, but it probably was down to wanting to be less declarative with the only other person we were interacting with regularly (plus some kind of language-is-a-virus mutual reinforcement effect).
― rob, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
I do that a lot when I'm declining something.
"Do you want to come along?" "I think I might stay home this time."
― jmm, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
How can you get learns if you don't make asks?
― display names are for n00bs (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
+1 on "learnings" - overused by several colleagues who want to sound 'with-it' and cool by dropping inane jargon
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
Also annoyed by the misuse of 'campus' - "Here at the Genentech Campus, we're solving today's blah blah..."
What they mean is bland business park and they should just admit it.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
"learns" is so unnecessary I imagine the manager's child has been kidnapped and threatened with death should the manager ever say the word "lesson"
― rob, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
Ilx specific one but “thanking you”. It adds 3 unnecessary characters for the sake of doge-esque flare or something.
― Evan, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
Some British people actually say that though
― kinder, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
hmm idgi. Is it supposed to be an emphasis like "many thanks"?
― Evan, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
“get jabs into arms” is objectively awful tho, we have our own Dutch equivalent too
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
otm
― stilt in the wings (sic), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link
My best friend does ‘thx’ and it is the only irritating thing about her but mein gott is it irritating.
― scampopo (suzy), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
Maybe you've been lucky enough not to hear 'jab' in every second sentence.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
it's a word that means "person has been vaccinated against deadly pandemic" so it tends to make me happy as long as you don't call it "sticky thingy"
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link
thx is gr8, thanking you is for wankers
― Towards a Britain-Free Planet (Left), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
ppl who say this are also most likely to call things "pants" ime
― Towards a Britain-Free Planet (Left), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
Indeed. My current geographical location has no doubt helped.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
No very good entries since tbh soz folx
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link
I hate the word "the", do we really need it
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
― Evan, Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:35 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― kinder, Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:42 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is classic wee old woman in a shop patter when you pay for your morning roll and newspaper
― himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
Also annoyed by the misuse of 'campus'
What's weird to me is that the latin word 'campus' was ever chosen to represent the vicinity of a college or university. In latin it usually referred to a military encampment, although its oldest meaning was more like 'a relatively flat area of ground', which also happens to be the type of spot where you'd want to place a military encampment.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link
For "jab" let's just substitute "prick."
― display names are for n00bs (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
by all means, let's go Dutch!
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
(don’t think my lack of enthusiasm came across very well here)
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link
"learns" is so unnecessary
― fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Friday, 26 February 2021 06:31 (three years ago) link
It's February 2021 and a colleague just used this in an email: "Awesome-Sauce!"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 February 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link