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people keep saying this is a rich country but it's not really anymore? it's a poor country that has become good at one thing, legitimizing massive public theft.

― map ca. 1890 (map), Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:10 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is kind of my point when i say the ivys are under-resourced. the resources that (presumably?) used to fund world class physical infrastructure and teaching resources at the best universities in the world are no longer there. or at least not at the level of the other countries i've taught in (uk, aus, germany).

and if they're not at the ivys then we're screwed. i don't mean to say we should fund the ivys better or that we particularly need this insight to tell us that public schools are in trouble.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:21 (five years ago)

yep. neither did Larry Hogan. everyone in Baltimore city could die and he'd be thrilled because he knows we didn't vote for him.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:21 (five years ago)

yes, that's a fair point, caek. the problem pretty pernicious at this point.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:22 (five years ago)

larry hogan today said we are getting more than our share of vaccines while 2/3 of our allotment is going to people who don't live here

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:23 (five years ago)

he can keep going on meet the press and being asked why he's so cool though

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:23 (five years ago)

WHY WON'T JOURNALISTS CALL HIM ON HIS BULLSHIT PR???

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:24 (five years ago)

sorry that is wildly off topic but he is so full of shit!

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:24 (five years ago)

isn't this the Baltimore/Maryland/fuck Larry Hogan politics thread?

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:24 (five years ago)

i am mad at larry hogan every day of my life

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:25 (five years ago)

not getting vaccines to mostly Black Baltimoreans for a disease that's killing them at higher rates than everyone else is...tantamount to genocide. maybe not in intention, but in effect.

xp sing it!

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:26 (five years ago)

FUCK YOU YOU STUPID RICH HAM

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:28 (five years ago)

OBVS YOU'RE NEVER GETTING ELECTED WITH THAT FACE; MIGHT AS WELL TRY TO DO THE JOB YOU ACTUALLY HAVE

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:28 (five years ago)

(elected president, i mean)

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:29 (five years ago)

and if they're not at the ivys then we're screwed. i don't mean to say we should fund the ivys better or that we particularly need this insight to tell us that public schools are in trouble.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:21 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they are at Yale and Harvard, where the uber-wealthy kleptocrats graduated from. other ivies do have considerably inferior endowments.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:32 (five years ago)

my modest proposal for American universities: dissolve all the private ones, redistribute Yale and Harvard's endowments to four public universities.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:33 (five years ago)

university of the north, the east, the south, and the west

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:34 (five years ago)

i guess there might have to be more than four for logistical reasons whatever whatever

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:35 (five years ago)

great plains oblast university

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

many xps
ime the biggest impact on school budgets from rich parents isnt the pta but booster orgs (athletics, band, etc). plus just regular degular private spending on camps, tutors, private lessons, etc. skews things even more.

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:37 (five years ago)

great plains oblast university

― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:37 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yes

when i was in grad school (in America) my smartest peers all went to McGill, which was a legit school you could actually flunk out of and didn't have to pay through the nose for. unlike my "prestigious" college which felt like our parents were all paying for our ability to say we went there.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:40 (five years ago)

my dad wanted me to go to mcgill but i didn't apply because i wouldn't follow my dad's advice when i was 16, maybe i could have been canadian oh well

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:44 (five years ago)

they are at Yale and Harvard, where the uber-wealthy kleptocrats graduated from. other ivies do have considerably inferior endowments.

― horseshoe, Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:32 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the ivy i had in mind, the worst-resourced university i have ever taught at, was columbia, which admittedly doesn't dominate the elite to the same extent as harvard/yale. so maybe things could be bad at columbia and word wouldn't reach people who could change things if they want to. but ... well, obama went there?! (being rhetorical. i know why this doesn't happen. but honestly!)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 00:56 (five years ago)

Obama isn’t endowment rich (well, maybe he is now)...that’s like, Rockefeller shit. Harvard has an endowment the size of like 500 other schools’ endowments. It’s absurd.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:15 (five years ago)

Harvard has 41.9 bill

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:17 (five years ago)

Yale has 31.1 bill

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:18 (five years ago)

Columbia is chronically ill run; I think they probably suck at fundraising. But Harvard turns out more wealthy people that want to make sure their kids are set up for life than anywhere else

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:20 (five years ago)

many xps
ime the biggest impact on school budgets from rich parents isnt the pta but booster orgs (athletics, band, etc). plus just regular degular private spending on camps, tutors, private lessons, etc. skews things even more.

― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:37 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ie wealth

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:30 (five years ago)

cool thanks

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:39 (five years ago)

Obama isn’t endowment rich (well, maybe he is now)...that’s like, Rockefeller shit. Harvard has an endowment the size of like 500 other schools’ endowments. It’s absurd.


I don’t mean Obama should personally solve Colombia’s funding problems. I mean influential people attend academic institutions that are nominally the best in the world and are ... not, and they might think something’s up.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:49 (five years ago)

I think Columbia’s chronic ill run-ness just becomes part of the larger backdrop of things Americans don’t notice. And is less emblematic of American decline than American public schools, to be fair.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:50 (five years ago)

Fair. I have very limited experience. Psyched to learn about public schools next year.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:51 (five years ago)

When I was considering Columbia for undergrad, a lot of people told me I’d have a lot of trouble registering for courses because it’s chronically ill run, and that was part of why I didn’t go. Some of those people went to Columbia, but they were pretty blasé about it.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:51 (five years ago)

I do think it’s part of the problem with how privatized everything is in America—there are so many private institutions it’s hard to form any overarching conclusions from them. And there are too many private colleges to be economically sustainable.

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:54 (five years ago)

It’s almost like they should all be shut down and their resources redistributed

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:55 (five years ago)

When I was considering Columbia for undergrad, a lot of people told me I’d have a lot of trouble registering for courses because it’s chronically ill run, and that was part of why I didn’t go. Some of those people went to Columbia, but they were pretty blasé about it.

― horseshoe, Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:51 PM (thirteen minutes ago

Having PTSD flashbacks to phone court registration at my large state u.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 26 February 2021 02:07 (five years ago)

Phone course registration.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 26 February 2021 02:07 (five years ago)

just dropping in to tell horseshoe how much I appreciate her ranting ITT

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 26 February 2021 15:47 (five years ago)

Having PTSD flashbacks to phone court registration at my large state u.

Phone registration would have been an improvement! When I started college, we had to go stand in the armory for hours on end in various lines to try to get into different courses. It was bonkers and so stressful.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2021 15:52 (five years ago)

Pfizer expects to *double* it's weekly US production and deliver 120 million doses just in the next 6 weeks. We have 600 million mRNA doses scheduled by end of July. J&J VRBPAC meeting today. Things can go wrong, but it's time to talk about and act on *new* challenges we'll face.

— zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) February 26, 2021



Starting to think the US will be able to open up vaccination to all adults by may-ish.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:40 (five years ago)

there keeps being promising news but doses/week in my county has been flat for like four weeks and it's making me feel crazy to look at the graph

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:41 (five years ago)

We’re supply constrained. That’s going to change very soon. It takes four months to make a batch and the vaccines were approved 3 months ago. Huge production volume coming online next month.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:43 (five years ago)

That said, stay frosty

CDC WARNING: Drop in Covid cases "may be stalling," @CDCDirector Walensky says. Daily infections have gone up for the past 3 days compared to last week.

"We at CDC consider this a very concerning shift in the trajectory . . . Things are tenuous. Now is not the time to relax."

— Sheryl Gay Stolberg (@SherylNYT) February 26, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:44 (five years ago)

just dropping in to tell horseshoe how much I appreciate her ranting ITT

― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, February 26, 2021 10:47 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol don't encourage me! but also, thank you!

horseshoe, Friday, 26 February 2021 16:45 (five years ago)

Nearly 60% of people 75+ have now received at least one shot -- that was 14% 6 weeks ago

prosecute trump at the hague imo

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:54 (five years ago)

there's gonna be severe cultural whiplash in cities everywhere. children killed because they're too close to a strange guy who freaks out after a year in quarantine. full-on bacchanals in public spaces. it's gonna be complicated and weird and that in small part is why people in their 20s and 30s who approach this with "i'll get it whenever" confuse the hell outta me. That's where the numbers are gonna skyrocket next!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:58 (five years ago)

The Hague may be more interested in Americans as a whole for hogging global vaccine supply.

All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:00 (five years ago)

and for prosecuting Blind Melon fans

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:02 (five years ago)

people in their 20s and 30s who approach this with "i'll get it whenever" confuse the hell outta me.

Why does this confuse you when the messaging has been explicitly that these people should not expect to get the vaccine any time soon while we catch up with the older/more vulnerable populations?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:05 (five years ago)

Euler: that companies aren't offering how-to on making these vaccines publicly available where governments can produce their own supply is the prosecutable sin imo. america being a glutton, while not worth forgetting is more dog bites man.

jon: as noted in the above tweet, we need to prepare to change the priorities and rules quickly and get ready to start changing that messaging now! I think the "people under 60 can wait" message is analogous to the "the public doesn't need masks" bullshit from the start of this shitshow, smokescreen so people don't riot in the streets. If we're actually going to hit a point in the next month or two where the qualification to get a vaccine is "I want one" the nation needs to start a media tour saying so and start focusing on convincing people they DO want them.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:14 (five years ago)

oh forks, I absolutely agree with you! I was just saying I can understand why people might be taking that approach, based on the faulty messaging we've been seeing. I mean, hell, our mayor's weekly updates don't come out and say it explicitly, but the subtext is very much, "if you aren't over 65, just be quiet and wait your turn, we'll tell you when that happens, but don't expect it soon".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:17 (five years ago)


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