also since so many Protestant sects belong to the "you can be a sumbitch and get to Heaven by saying sorry on your deathbed", most of those folk don't exactly care for self-introspection.
I actually remember going to a Methodist church at 11 and being taught that and thinking "wow cool, all I gotta do is figure out when I'm doing and just apologize then"
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
*dying
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link
more broadly, how do you get people who think they are going to another, more fabulous world with no libs, minorities, or gay people after they die, to give a fuck about improving this world.
The probability that those evangelical voters have minorities, gay, and anti-Trump people among them worth killing.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
Xpost -John Lennon, "Imagine"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
It was the hope of the demographics are destiny crowd that there would just be fewer of those people but American Catholicism has been infected by American Protestantism and white supremacy is a strong motivator to bring in new adherents.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
I do think a different republican candidate would struggle more to sell the stolen election narrative. Part of the reason that Trump was able to get as much mileage as he did was that he believed his own bullshit way more than some of these "smarter" republicans do. You see time and again when they are pressed on these questions they get all mealy-mouthed and stumble, whereas Trump would just lie and bluster full throttle regardless of whether it made sense or not.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
Except next time it won't be Rudy at the 4 Seasons, it will be a planned strategy executed by competent people.
maybe...but like, even with Trump out of the picture, it's not like the GOP has their shit together. they have people like Hawley, Crenshaw, MTG, Ted Cruz, etc. who are good at kicking shit up but I don't see how any of them get Trump's following. none of them are going to get the wall-to-wall, WWE-style coverage that Trump got. none of them have the aura of "success" that Trump had. so much of Trump's rise in 2015 was this idiotic "well maybe we SHOULD give someone like that a chance!" talking point. a huge chunk of his appeal was that he was an outsider who wanted to shake up the system. idk if someone whose career began as an elected official can capture that.
also, I know this is gonna sound real condescending, but a lot of Trump's appeal was in the fact that he was a genuine dipshit. he really was as dumb as the people who voted for him. GOP voters can sense when they're being pandered to and guys like Cruz & Hawley come off like debate club geeks. I cannot see the current GOP base getting excited about either of them. even the real dumb ones like MTG are not as good at trolling and that's gonna be a huge part of it as well. there's a certain lack of self-awareness that you're gonna have to have and very few people on the planet possess that. I'd be more worried about like, the Dilbert guy than any of these clowns.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
xpost "Demographics are destiny" was the path to keeping Mitt Romney types out of office. Which is why Republicans have abandoned Mitt Romney types. Bare-knuckled white supremacy and evangelical dominionism married to an overt willingness to subvert election outcomes is a new tack.
Also, it doesn't matter all that much how many actual people believe a stolen election narrative, as long as there are enough people in Congress and state legislatures willing to at least pretend to believe it. At the moment there are a lot of them, and they have just made it essentially mandatory.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
And maybe this will all blow up in their face, I don't know. What worries me is that they have some big structural advantages that mean they will inevitably win back either Congress or the White House or both, and when they do it will be as this radicalized post-Trump party.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
I don't see how voter suppression will blow up in Rs faces unless there is a legislative backlash (Manchin: sorry, no) that survives SC scrutiny (Barret: sorry, no).
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
another problem for them is that espousing GOP ideology right now as a public figure might get you banned from Twitter and I don't think you're gonna be able to campaign much on the My Pillow guy's site
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
Fox News and Breitbart will just host them
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
Trump didn't win on Fox alone, though - CNN had like 3 full-time hires whose only job was to defend him on air. I wanna say they learned their lesson but they continue to employ Rick Santorum so they'll probably do the same thing in 2024
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
the last time I saw Santorum on CNN, Cuomo was yelling at him for being racist so I don't know how much longer CNN is going to employ him
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
I dunno, that's probably good political theater. Lefties see it and feel righteous, righties see it and feel martyred, everyone at CNN goes home happy.
― In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
Obviously, instead of feeling smug and righteous that Santorum got yelled at on tv because he's racist, we should be yelling at CNN for promoting racist views.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
see i kinda agree with this. no one else has the traction trump does
― a (waterface), Thursday, 13 May 2021 12:08 (three years ago) link
more broadly, how do you get people who think they are going to another, more fabulous world *with no libs, minorities, or gay people* after they die, to give a fuck about improving _this_ world.
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link
what are they waiting for?
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link
that's what i always ask. 'if this world is terrible, why not die and go to your superheaven'
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link
I'm sure there are some successors of Kevorkian who will help u on yr way
― Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
They are actively trying, believe me
― more and more people are asking to be paid for posting (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
They are waiting for an act of god to kill them, or looking for an act of god to walk into
― more and more people are asking to be paid for posting (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
Like a random guy driving steamrollers on suburban streets?
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link
^^^ love that Paul Simon quote
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link
People who kill themselves go to Hell according to most Christian dogma that I know/remember.
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link
We can send those who wish to join the Kingdom of Heaven to an island and we can hunt them win win
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link
…while we’re taking our inspiration from classic works of fiction
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
xp that’s dogmatically true. The trick is to put yourself in a position to die where you don’t technically kill yourself
― more and more people are asking to be paid for posting (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link
that's why they're so mad that biden is gonna ban all the red meat!
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link
For example, “I will take this poisonous snake with the power of the lord!”
― more and more people are asking to be paid for posting (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link
Er, tame. But some try to “know” the snake as well
― more and more people are asking to be paid for posting (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
They’re pretty much dying of whiteness anyway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
I want to white out
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
The problem is they're killing the rest of us, too
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
otm
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
"Dying of Whiteness": Underrated Vampire Weekend Bop
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
my favorite Carly Rae Jepsen couplet:
white problemswho's got'em?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 May 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
Dying of Whiteness is a great book, highly recommended.
― Take, eat; this is my body. What I got, you got to get (the table is the table), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
Looks like Matt Gaetz has a long weekend ahead of him
Breaking: Joel Greenberg, Seminole's disgraced former tax collector, is now set to change his not-guilty plea during a hearing Monday morning. This signals that he has reached a deal with federal prosecutors. Deadline had been Saturday. Story soon on https://t.co/YW9kPUGr6P— Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) May 13, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
and yet, he's still a sitting member of congress. i seriously expected to get back from a recent vacation and find him in jail. but the gop, etc
tbh, i'm surprised they ever found the courage to take away the committee seats from neo-nazi Steve King
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
I'm really excited to see just what it takes to force him to resign.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
imagine going into work and everyone's waving hello at the guy who makes fake IDs so he can sleep with teenagers, and everyone knows it
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
like, that one thing alone would be enough for me to make a huge fuss and quit my job, if they didn't throw the fucker out IMMEDIATELY. i guess congress is different, because there's over 100+ dudes who are completely corrupt and also actively try to fuck teenagers
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
tbh I'm guessing that fucking teenagers has long been a bipartisan activity in Congress. (I'm also going to stipulate without googling that there is a Capitol Hill-themed porn movie out there called Bi-Partisan.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
let's not forget what a scumbag Greenberg was too. he was my tax collector at one point, and one year during Trump's admin he was engaging in flame wars on Twitter with people and actually looking up their tax records and using it against him ("maybe you'll pay your registration tax on time next year" or something, he said to one person)
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
(in addition to what he was already accused of, obv)
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
Gaetz is on tour right now, and you know what tour is all about, right?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link