US Politics May 2021: Joe Manchin's Choose-Your-Adventure Book

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You never know.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 May 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

Anyway if you'd like a satisfying read, here's the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors as well as the sheriff and recorder ripping the hell out of the Arizona GOP Senate leader who ginned up that psuedo-audit. A reminder that said board is very much GOP as well.

https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann---FINAL

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

This thread on said board's own meeting today essentially talking about all this plus further points is worth your time

Chairman Jack Sellers says what Cyber Ninjas is doing on behalf of the Arizona Senate is a “grift disguised as an audit.”

— Dillon Rosenblatt (@DillonReedRose) May 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

Maricopa county says Cyber Ninjas is just straight miscounting ballots https://t.co/riK3xBi6l3 pic.twitter.com/vM5Wa9XjnX

— Sam Levine (@srl) May 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

So you're like okay

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/capitol-rioters-trump-defense-comes-up-again-and-again-will-it-make-a-difference

And then you read this bit and what

I spoke to the "QAnon Shaman" Jacob Chansley's attorney, Albert Watkins, for this story. Here's what he had to say... https://t.co/6gZ2jzPvSh pic.twitter.com/b4w62dYvLN

— Matt Shuham (@mattshuham) May 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

sorry if this offends anyone, this thing i'm about to say, perhaps disrespectfully, but

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

xpost didn't see that until I posted to the Q thread ... between the AZ GOP and this guy, with friends like these ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

i'm not clicking that but is he a public defender? if not, who is paying for him?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

will it work for a black man on death row in Texas? absolutely not. but these guys? hey maybe.

*Matt Gaetz’s attorneys furiously taking notes*

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

I assume thousands of MAGA donors

xp

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

The bio for Albert S. Watkins is pure, classic Albert S. Watkins.https://t.co/5Ax4zznR6J pic.twitter.com/uVQqSqllZ1

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) May 18, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

what a piece of garbage.

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

This guy was also the lawyer for the St. Louis gun couple?!?

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

all I'm gonna say is if this somehow works it will go down as one of the most infamous defenses in court history. "your honor, my client is clearly a brain damaged moron" will become known as "The Watkins Defense"

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

this is the scene where Keanu Reeves tells Craig T Nelson "no no no see the jury is gonna see that I don't like you and therefore I can't be biased in your favor because I hate you, it's a good thing!"

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

it makes total sense these guys would pick a legal shitposter to represent them

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

none of the defendants are going to mind claiming to be dumb as a defense, the men would only speak up if the defense is they had tiny weiners or low sperm count. then theyd plead guilty

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

Holy hell I just hurt myself laughing

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

well well well

JUST IN: The FBI is investigating what it calls a massive scheme to illegally finance Sen. Susan Collins' 2020 reelection bid, Axios has learned. https://t.co/36nNweHIUc

— Axios (@axios) May 18, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

hahahahahahahaha

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

Not worth trying to evade the Daily Beast paywall for this but lol Sinema might really be more stupid than evil.

Senator Kyrsten Sinema is confused. At a private caucus meeting last week, she pointedly asked Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer why Democrats can’t overcome Republican opposition to the major ethics and voting rights reforms that Joe Biden promised voters, and that over 60 percent of Americans across party lines support. But Sinema wasn’t talking about the For the People Act that Schumer hopes to squeak through. She was referring to her own competing legislation.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

Chuck, Chuck why can't you make Josh Hawley SEE REASON?!

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

I'm almost willing to believe she doesn't know how this stuff works, Manchin on the other hand...

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

I’m sure Collins is very concerned about this report

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

more than that, she's deeply saddened!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

it must be some misunderstanding

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link

I’m sure she feels that someone has learned their lesson after this breaking news came to light and there’s no reason to investigate further

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

I'm sure there was a moment where she vigorously shook her head in disappointment in the mirror and, that's that. Let's all move on.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

McCarthy is going all Both Sides Now... he doesn't want to dwell on Q-Anon Shaman (which is in the past), let's talk about antifa and BLM violence

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

Lotta good results in various Pennsylvania races today.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:54 (three years ago) link

Has any politics happened this month I’ve not really been following

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

buncha good bills that passed the House got bogged down in the Senate

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:02 (three years ago) link

Same ol.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:13 (three years ago) link

mitch mcconnell died. he choked on his own vomit as he was lying about something

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link

I’ll check again next month

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

us politics is grim

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:21 (three years ago) link

This is better than I expected, honestly.

252-175, the bill passes with 35 GOP defections https://t.co/meI9MSoylP

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) May 19, 2021

Not GREAT, but it makes McCarthy look even more like a tool.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

VI.

‘You don’t take from God’

Shelby Busch and Steve Robinson’s latest rally in Arizona was billed as a “revival,” and for good reason. At a veterans’ memorial near the State Capitol on May 8, speakers framed the audit in biblical terms.

“Put your faith in God, like we have with this audit,” said a woman named Patty, wearing a “Latinas for Trump” shirt. “The election was stolen, and you don’t take from God. I will die fighting. We all need to be there. It is a war.”

“We know who wins in the end,” said a congressional candidate named Jeff Zink, seeming to equate the certainty of God’s final victory with the eventuality of Trump’s.

“That heaviness you feel every day when you wake up?” Busch said. “That’s spiritual warfare.”

Robinson, who referred to Trump as “our rightful president,” said “several states in this nation are soon to follow” Arizona.

After Busch and Robinson spoke to the crowd of about 100, they hustled over to the shade of the state Senate building. They were scheduled to speak remotely at a rally in Georgia featuring Lindell. They smoked Camels and waited in the virtual green room on Robinson’s phone. Away from the microphones, their rhetoric was softer. Their loyalty is to the Constitution, they said, which means fighting corruption and fraud.

“We’re confident it’s happening,” Robinson said, “but we don’t know why.”

The audit, Busch said, “is about identifying the problems so that we can work as a nation to resolve these issues.”

But how could they trust a partisan audit that was conducted without proper oversight? By way of explanation, Busch talked about a 2017 tweet from Hobbs, when she was the leader of the state Senate’s Democratic minority, criticizing Trump for “pandering to his neo-nazi base” in his response to the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. Shelby felt Hobbs was referring to all Trump supporters as Nazis. And Hobbs was in charge of the 2020 election in Arizona.

“I understand why you wouldn’t trust this audit,” Busch said, “but can you understand why we don’t trust your election?”

This audit. Your election. What’s happening in Maricopa can seem confounding, but maybe it’s that simple.

The skirmishes continue. Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects.

Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?”

On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.”

Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.”

“Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.”

The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.”

Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!”

Jack Sellers, the Republican chairman of the board, called the allegations “false” and “outrageous.”

“This is not funny,” Sellers wrote to Fann, the Senate president. “This is dangerous.” The county released a technical document Monday explaining how the server functioned, which appeared to clear up the matter.

At a meeting Tuesday, a Cyber Ninjas subcontractor said that all this “may be a moot point,” because he’d since been able to “recover” the files in question, though the county described that they were there all along. Was it a misunderstanding? Did someone screw up? It didn’t matter. The crime fantasy had already spread, and Trump was promising “many other States to follow.”

The audit “has nothing to do with overturning the election,” Fann repeated Tuesday.

“The story is only getting bigger,” Trump said in a statement.

And so his supporters will continue to look at Arizona like a domino.

If it doesn’t fall, what will they do? If it does, what falls next?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/05/21/arizona-election-audit-trump-maricopa/

Karl Malone, Saturday, 22 May 2021 05:04 (three years ago) link

This audit. Your election. What’s happening in Maricopa can seem confounding, but maybe it’s that simple.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 22 May 2021 05:06 (three years ago) link

Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!” Last week, the official audit Twitter account accused Maricopa County of spoiling evidence by deleting election databases. The account shared a screenshot of a database directory, without any explanation of what it meant. The wild claim was retweeted more than 12,000 times and boosted by the usual suspects. Pulitzer shared the tweet on Telegram, where followers replied with “Firing squad!” and “Time for hanging?” On Steve Bannon’s podcast, Rep. Finchem, who is hoping to become Arizona’s top election official, wondered if this evidence revealed Maricopa’s “incompetence” or “criminality.” Patrick Byrne, the former CEO who is raising money for the audit, announced that “we now have the forensic proof of another massive federal felony.” “Look at that, you guys,” Gail, the Scottsdale real estate agent, told her followers on YouTube, sharing the database screenshot. “I mean, it’s a crime. This is a crime scene.” The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump website that has access to the coliseum, declared that Maricopa officials “DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE DIRECTORY from Voting Machines.” Trump repeated the accusation, announcing on his website that “the entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!”

things you just want to copy and paste over and over again, because they sum it up

#onethread
#stopcompromisingwithchristianfascists

Karl Malone, Saturday, 22 May 2021 05:09 (three years ago) link

Fucking scum

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 May 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link

I hate them all

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 May 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link

So what happens, what do we do when "Cyber Ninjas" confidently claims Trump won? What do we, as people in the reality-based community do?

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 24 May 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Mix a Negroni.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

also get a gun

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 24 May 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

MTG to Robert Reich: Greene responded: "Don’t know you, but when I saw Berkley in your bio, I got it. Just put the hammer and sickle with it."

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 24 May 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

Not that far off from something Jesse Helms or Reagan would have said 45 years ago, though. The narrative there fails because conservatives/Republicans have been like this for our entire lives.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 24 May 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link


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