US Politics May 2021: Joe Manchin's Choose-Your-Adventure Book

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"And then he pulled a well-worn, dogeared copy of The Founatainhead and held it aloft before the assembled crowd, who gasped in awe at his obvious leadership acumen."

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link

In another eight or nine months, he's going to take on Pat Buchanan.

clemenza, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/cBsul0L.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

Paul Ryan is trending on Twitter b/c, per CNN, he is giving a speech tonight to urge the GOP to reject the "populist appeal of 1 personality" b/c "we're not going anywhere."

Also Paul Ryan is on the board of Fox Corp, which exists to amplify the populist appeal of 1 personality. pic.twitter.com/MeWue4Nzts

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) May 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

accompanying Independent Mettle playlist

lots of appropriate titles!

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

By the way--I'm sure many will disagree--I think Ryan is a preview of the next couple of years. I don't believe that Trump has a hold on the party that will keep everyone to the side while he breezes in for the nomination. I think there are many people who will pick their spots to break away, in the hopes (many deluded, I'm sure--not sure if Ryan considers himself viable) of getting the nomination themselves. I suspect even Cruz--especially Cruz--is angling for what he believes is the ideal moment where he doesn't alienate the voters he wants.

clemenza, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

I don't think it'll be Trump either but at this point it seems more likely to be the MyPillow guy than someone like Paul Ryan. anyone who speaks out against Trumpism or the big lie is gonna get demolished.

frogbs, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

I think it all hinges on whether Trump can remain out of jail and healthy enough to credibly be the nominee. If he can, then we'll continue on the current path, if not, there isn't much else propping it up.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

I assume these are multiple-choice rather than open-ended questions given the results (the poll itself isn't clear), but still interesting how the two parties differ:

Who would you prefer to be the role model for the next generation of Republican Party leaders?

Trump 50%
Reagan 21%
Haley 6%
George W. Bush 5%
George H.W. Bush 3%
Liz Cheney 2%

.@Reuters/@Ipsos, Among Republicans, 5/7-10https://t.co/znHgP62EJl

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) May 26, 2021


Who would you prefer to be the role model for the next generation of Democratic Party leaders?

Biden 28%
Obama 25%
Harris 21%
Abrams 11%
Franklin Roosevelt 3%
Bill Clinton 2%

.@Reuters/@Ipsos, Among Democrats, 5/7-10https://t.co/znHgP62EJl

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) May 26, 2021

jaymc, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

hoping FDR runs in the next cycle

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

No Sanders/AOC/Omar options?

DJI, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

a lot of insane questions in that poll

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

Could there be a better metaphor for our time? "ConocoPhillips plans to install 'chillers' into the permafrost — which is fast melting because of climate change — to keep it solid enough to support the equipment to drill for oil." https://t.co/sZ38Q77mAp

— Elizabeth Kolbert (@ElizKolbert) May 27, 2021

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

Hopefully Trump will just choke to death on a taco bowl shell, and then Ryan can do his Khrushchev denouncement speech

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

No Sanders/AOC/Omar options?

― DJI, Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:48 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The fact that Sanders and AOC didn't rate at all is how I know it must have been multiple choice. I like Stacey Abrams just as much as anyone else, but her name recognition is much lower than theirs.

jaymc, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

Based on those polls I’m not sure how the parties differ. Both of them prefer their recent leadership. We probably could have surmised this from who they’ve voted for.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Washington (CNN)In the last 24 hours, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has ramped up the pressure on his GOP Senate colleagues to oppose a bill creating a January 6 commission, according to two Republicans familiar with his effort.
One of those Republicans told CNN that McConnell has even made the unusual move of asking wavering senators to support filibustering the bill as "a personal favor" to him.
"No one can understand why Mitch is going to this extreme of asking for a 'personal favor' to kill the commission," said the Republican.

Because he really, really doesn't want this commission, that's why

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

Based on those polls I’m not sure how the parties differ. Both of them prefer their recent leadership. We probably could have surmised this from who they’ve voted for.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:07 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Republicans far and away prefer one guy, Democrats are split between a few.

jaymc, Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Trump will always be more popular than Reagan because his ostensible program—as opposed to his actual one—was about pursuing policies his voters would benefit from materially. In 2024 Biden will face some form of “populist” charlatan, not a conservative in the old mold, a type that was never popular. This is why he is pursuing a legitimately robust domestic spending agenda and good for him.

treeship., Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

Believe it or not, Biden “gets it”

treeship., Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

.@NBCNews confirms the following Biden picks for US ambassadors:
- Rahm Emanuel to Japan
- Eric Garcetti to India
- Nicholas Burns to China
- Tom Nides to Israel
Reporting with @carolelee @albamonica @kwelkernbc

— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) May 27, 2021

As I said before, this really feels like "How far away can we possibly send this fucking guy?" to me.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 27 May 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

loooool Rahm to Japan

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 27 May 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

Imagine being Obama’s chief of staff, getting elected mayor of Chicago, then tripping over your own dick hard enough that the fucking President gives you a booby prize embassy to prevent you from doing anything worse

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 27 May 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

The most hated Democrat who hasn't taken a photo with his arms around Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link

John Corzine and Blago are still out there somewhere in the wild.

earlnash, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Lieberman too is a total GOP suckup f'k too.

earlnash, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

i dunno, those are real embassies, and it's that the jobs went to two of the worst mayors in america.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

Lori Lightfoot is trying desperately hard to prove she can fail worse than Rahm at being mayor.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

garcetti happened to be chairing the LA metro board and listening to public comment when the news broke:

So the mayor just unmuted and I'm pretty sure he just said he was going to make an announcement after the next or maybe last caller.

The next caller then ended their comment with: "See you later Mayor Garcetti, we won't miss you"

— Alissa Walker (@awalkerinLA) May 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

:D

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

they checked and no, there wasn't a bigger piece of paper available

President Biden just pulled out a list of Republicans who he says are touting the American Rescue Plan and who are trying to take credit for its impact but who refused to vote for the plan that was passed with only Democratic support. Wow. pic.twitter.com/DO38UDUX02

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) May 27, 2021

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

Baller.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

The video's even better 'cause he laughs as he says it. Biden understands the power of ridiculing your opponents.

"Some people have no shame." pic.twitter.com/pPAmQXjppC

— The Recount (@therecount) May 27, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

Big Scorpio energy, LOL

the thin blue lying (suzy), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

Biden understands the power of ridiculing your opponents.

lol "power"

Not a single human being would be swayed by this shit. Republicans are... playing politics?!

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

Democrats are saying that they will take up whatever key stuff (climate, eldercare) is left out of the bipartisan infrastructure deal in a follow-up reconciliation Dem-only package. Experts/aides split dramatically on how likely that ishttps://t.co/QqOxWcssTc

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) May 26, 2021

Biden understands the power of feeding his most gullible followers complete bullshit.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

It's good practice for elected reps to call out and/or put down shitty policies, beliefs and behaviours by their political opponents imo (did not watch this video)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

Biden should try calling out Manchin and Sinema for blocking the minimum wage increase and voting rights bills.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link

yeah I wonder why that won't happen

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

sic posted a good tweet from a Wisconsin/Illinois news source about why that won't happen a couple of days ago IIRC

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link

yelling at Joe Manchin in public is exactly what he needs to do to win him over imo

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

The pic in that last tweet really affirms Buttigieg's rat-fink shit-eater look. He makes me ashamed to be gay.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

Not even Newt Gingrich will shame me for being gay.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

let me understand and make sure i've got this straight. milo have you come here to this board today to tell us that there are democrats who aren't committed to a progressive agenda - yet have the power to swing legislation?! and that president biden is refusing to publicly embarrass and humiliate them!!!!?? color me completely fucking surprised at this information, and the messenger bringing it. it DEFINITELY doesn't feel like groundhog day in here and we all DEFINITELY need to be remorselessly reminded that biden isn't going to deliver all the things we want. if not for the milo daily delivery we'd just all be skipping blithely down the road singing kumbaya, biden is great, he brings us the chocolate cake! 100% a+ service thanking you

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

When someone deepthroats Biden’s political genius in, uh, ridiculing opponents in a video no one outside of Blue Twitter has watched, a little balance feels good.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

yelling at Joe Manchin in public is exactly what he needs to do to win him over imo

The current strategy is having so much success, amirite? Remember when Manchin wrote a competing voting rights bill because the Democrats’ bill is DOA?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link

Doing the Morbs’ work

DJI, Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

It's May. Reagan's major legislation, just as an example, didn't get signed into law until the summer. If we're in the same place in August without any movement, then y'all can rend your garments. I'll join you.

I mean, you can't even defenestrate Joe Manchin. The GOP governor will appoint a GOP replacement.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link

a little balance feels good.

in a thread devoted to Joe Biden's excellence, sure

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link


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