Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE

RIP I’ll always remember you big guy.

I wish I talked about Trump instead. I played "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" for them--and had to stop 30 seconds in. (Hadn't seen the video for 30 years at least.) Jesus. "Teachable moment," as they say.

I have honestly never seen that video before. Holy hell.

xxp don't get my hopes up please

wow @ that culture club video, sure I have seen that before, how did I not notice THAT?

Karma Chameleon video is also fairly problematic along similar lines

I had "Karma Chameleon" cued up to play after, but that was immediately a no-go...It really shook me up. We talked about it, and then I phoned the principal as soon as I had a break. She was really good about it. Last time I ever play a music video without double-checking first.

from https://www.songfacts.com/facts/culture-club/do-you-really-want-to-hurt-me, don't know that this really explains it...

The concept of the video was Boy George as an outsider, getting kicked out of different places in various historical settings. It was directed by Julien Temple, who came up with the idea of jurors dressed in blackface. This was a shocking image for American audiences, who long associated blackface with racism, but in England it was far more accepted as part of their music hall tradition.

Temple explained in the book I Want My MTV: "'Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was about being gay and being victimized for your sexuality, which George was kind of emblematic of. It seemed appropriate to me that in the video he would be judged by jurors in blackface, to send up bigotry and point out the hypocrisy of the many gay judges and politicians in the UK who'd enacted anti-gay legislation."

count me among the people who saw this many times as a child, but did not recall the blackface element

Was there an edited version as well, maybe?

I seem to recall the original video for Taco's "Putting on the Ritz" featuring blackface bits that were later removed and replaced with generic stills of Gary Cooper

Was there an edited version as well, maybe?

I think there was...? I remember reading at the time that MTV refused to play it (not that MTV's programming wasn't already explicitly racist in the early '80s).

See also UB40's 1980 video for 'Dream a Lie'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfoVVRDU378

wow @ that culture club video, sure I have seen that before, how did I not notice THAT?

There must have been an alternative or edited version, I've never seen that before.

xpost yeah looks like the blackface is in the slow opening part of the song. Pretty easy to cut that part out.

I had to check when The Black and White Minstrel show ended on the BBC - 1978, so three years before the Culture Club video, too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody.

Running weekly for 20 years makes enough of a cultural impact that it can still be referred to as an element of public consciousness three years later... even if the stage show wasn’t still touring regularly until 1987, and playing Butlins until 1989.

too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody

Are you kidding? People are still making jokes about shit that happened in 1978 now.

True. That was the year the Star Wars Xmas special aired.

ask someone if they have 'badges' and wait for them to tell you they don't have to show you any 'stinkin badges'.

Wait, is this the Donald Trump thread? I think I'm lost

all threads are Donald Trump threads. no threads are Donald Trump threads.

Boy George came out as MAGA

not my lover, but my rival

Make America George Again

I'll grumble 4 ya

KarMA_GAmeleon

but really, he did?

xp

Perhaps he has a... poisoned mind

trump is still doing fake tweets as "statements" on his website. nothing worth mentioning.

File in the "WTF?" dept.:

The niece of Osama bin Laden on Wednesday protested the Biden-Putin summit with a “Trump Won” flag.

Video surfaced on Twitter Wednesday showing Noor bin Laden, on a boat with others, holding a “Trump Won” flag in Geneva, the site of the summit. Noor bin Laden is pushing the unfounded claim that former President Trump won the 2020 election.

i think maybe bin Laden's angle is that anything that promotes the idea the Trump Won is a destabilizing influence for the U.S. as a whole. or, you know, she could just be out of her mind like so much of humanity

KarMA_GAmeleon

― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:08 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

vvg

BIN LADEN WON

she could just be out of her mind

This. She's been a major, out of her mind Trumper for years.

bin laden did win, tbh

he got bush and the neocons to sliiiiightly overreact in Iraq and Afghanistan, which played a big hand in obama getting elected (he was one of the few candidates who could credibly say he was against iraq from the beginning), and then white americans got so mad about a black man being president that they elected trump, which made pretty much everyone mad

not that he planned it out that way, of course. but the initial destabilizing event 9/11 led very directly to other destabilizing events, varnished the bravado of 80% of americans being for bush in the wake of the attack, freedom fries, all that bullshit. one big evil tragedy leads to another

and eventually everyone's just like "fuck you asshole!", including me. seriously, fuck any republican 4 life for what they did. i'm supposed to talk to them? fuck them

She's a nutjob, but honestly, I don't think there is much significance to the Bin Laden connection

okay, she references some 'bombshell': ... the Revolver News bombshell on possible FBI infiltration in 1/6

Prepare for this bombshell, people.. this... changes... everything...

BI(nla)DEN WON

The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!! Wait watch the lametream media try to distort this electrifying new evidence

Trump-Bin Laden 2024

Here we go:

BREAKING: Congressman Matt Gaetz calls on FBI Director Christopher Wray to fully disclose the role and involvement of FBI operatives during the January 6th Capitol riot.

Look! a condor in a wet suit!

he sure is playing with fire

now i'm looking up how many nieces and nephews bin laden has but i can't find it, i think it may be in the hundreds

he had 53 siblings and most (if not all) males in his family have a large number of wives

Bin Laden, nieces, nephews, Matt Gaetz: patterns seem to be appearing - what could it all mean?

The scum also rises.

The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!!

This isn't really an unbelievable concept.

these patterns...they must mean something!

this can't be a coincidence