David Lynch - Classic or Dud

I don't want any more Twin Peaks, nothing could follow the end of S3 without feeling like a compromise.

Kyle maclachlan is in Washington - isn’t he from there?

The main Twin Peaks locations are half an hour east of Seattle, with a couple being north or west of the city. Maclachlan's childhood home town is another three hours east from the Double R, and his winery is an hour further east from there.

charlie-day-cracking-the-case.gif, except it's just a map with two dots on it.

movie hole dot net with the scoop

(for ppl who didn’t click through, the sole “evidence” of filming on Twin Peaks S4 was Maclachlan posting a photo of a car’s nose with some light mud splatter, meme-captioned “tell me you’re in Eastern Washington w/o etc”)

I'm willing to believe this new thing is straight up Peaks S4 tbh

I mean in the absence of any evidence I’m willing to believe it could be anything - I’m kinda hoping it’s that antelope don’t run no more script that’s mentioned in the recent bio - the author writes something like “those who have read it say it’s the best thing he’s ever written” but he wasn’t able to get it made because it would be too expensive. If the rumours about Netflix money are true that is quite tantalising!

also K-Mac does seem to be really into dropping cryptic little hints about stuff

My take here is basically the same one I had when Twin Peaks S3 was announced: there is more David Lynch directed stuff coming and that is good and it doesn't matter if it's Twin Peaks related or not.

^^^

yes

there is more David Lynch directed stuff coming

tbf tho I don’t think even this much is confirmed (even that clickbait article that draws conclusions based on literally nothing is calling it a “rumoured project” still) - I do have faith something is in the works but it’s a p different situation to when s3 had actually been announced

I don't see him relinquishing directing duties again if he can help it.

If he does end up getting other directors to chip in I hope he goes for like, PFFR people

No I’m not saying twin peaks is back without lynch, I’m saying there is no confirmation there is a lynch thing definitely coming tp or otherwise

yeah I've been wrong before but I feel like it will still be a while yet before we get actual "official" word either way

I believe it’s happening, and I don’t need evidence

Evidence of that nature is antithetical to twin peaks discussion

the production of a new series certainly could go sideways, but don't we know that there was a 13 part series called Unrecorded Night scheduled to begin shooting in May, produced by A2K PRODUCTIONS, INC. and TWIN PEAKS PRODUCTIONS, INC., with Peter Deming as DP?

Personally would love to see a brand new project, if it had tiny links to TP world I'd be good with that. I just think S3 ended it all so perfect.

On the one hand, I agree, on the other hand, I didn't think I needed/wanted a third season and boy was I wrong.

xxp Didn’t all that just come from some Reddit person tho? I don’t think there’s been any real confirmation

ALTHOUGH I just saw upthread from our own Johnny Fever when the 1st reports came out

FINALLY! I've known about this since March because of my job, but I've had to keep it my own secret for eight months. I feel liberated

Which is good enough for me

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yeah that's true, i'm currently rewatching initial series to ready for another rewatch of S3. It's just so good.

I definitely don’t need more. I don’t need anything, ray. If there’s one thing you should know about me, ray, it’s that I don’t need. I want.

i re-dove into the whole "episodes 17 and 18 are meant to be played simultaneously!" thing again, the last couple nights, and man it felt good!

and regardless of intent, i still find this to be one of the most beautiful images

https://i.imgur.com/tuRub45.png

Huh, all those TP cast members posting Wisteria does seem pretty significant/telling.

I thought someone asked Mark Frost on Twitter, though, and he said he has nothing to do with whatever wisteria is.

If we take her at her "it's not code!" word, I feel bad for Sherilyn Fenn if it turns out the others were posting wisteria photos because they're involved and she just happened to think the wisteria was nice.

I don't want any more Twin Peaks, nothing could follow the end of S3 without feeling like a compromise.

Fwiw, I feel the opposite (would love one more thing, even just a movie, to tie up the… loose ends); but will also be plenty satisfied if that never happens.

lol they all look coincidental tbh

Michael Horse’s is captioned “on my walk today”, Amanda Seyfried has tagged 2 of her friends who don’t seem to have anything to do with TP. I’m not even sure these are all pictures of wisteria. Some are from April or May, one is new.

Hays strikes me as someone, like George Griffith, who is as much a fan as a participant & likes to get involved in the hype so I think her “I learned about something” bit is literally just her reading the same articles everyone else is - she has been in a total of four scenes ever so I would not be assuming Heidi the waitress has deep inside knowledge on the next lynch project

Can't believe everyone is this hyped for Lynch's Desperate Housewives reboot

Could it be these folks are all tuned in to Lynch to some degree and are aware of the title “wisteria” and then just started to notice wisteria out in the world and either consciously or unconsciously posted wisteria in their socials either as an homage / hello to Lynch and fans

That seems more likely than a coded confirmation that this is s4 and around as likely as some of them just liking flowers

Yeah I would think it would be kinda rude for them to do that as a fake-out without knowing the "score" (or having Lynch's blessing), but what do I know.

(also, for all we know, Heidi the waitress could be central to the whole thing, lol)

> tie up the… loose ends

More Twin Peaks would only make more loose ends. Looking forward to whatever the heck he's up to.

S4 is mainly about billy. Heidi would def be a part of it

Can't believe everyone is this hyped for Lynch's Desperate Housewives reboot

Desperate Houserabbits

Oh, that would be fine.

also K-Mac does seem to be really into dropping cryptic little hints about stuff

I don't follow him but whenever I see his "cryptic references" linked they always seem to be straightforward, genial fanservice like recreating the opening Diane monologue in his car, or splitscreening himself reacting to tiktoks of dessert pie by sipping coffee

he's probably doing loads of posts of himself wearing an admiral's hat, or not fucking his wife, and sending the How I Met Your Mother and Sex In The City housewives into frenzies of speculation about secret reunion series too

housewives fans

(I realised I don't know anything about his Desperate Housewives character but deleted the wrong bit)

lol I checked his twitter and he's twooted this week about Dune and Sex In The City, and a few posts/weeks back offered this clear indication that Cooper is unstuck in the timestream for Peaks S4:

Happy Anniversary to #TheFlintstones and the stone-cold villain, Cliff Vandercave. He might have been sly, but boy did he make some boulder power moves! 🦕🪨🦴 pic.twitter.com/pOi3q75j3I

— Kyle MacLachlan (@Kyle_MacLachlan) May 27, 2021

That fan-service stuff feels different from the Wisteria tweet though?

What was the wisteria tweet again? The main thing in that article was him posting a tweet on the 30th anniversary of “how’s annie” & saying something like “I guess maybe we’ll find out one day!” which is def just fan service (if there is a 4th season it is unlikely to be about how Annie is lol)

Yeah I agree with that

there are so many overlaps between eraserhead and the return, it's kind of bewildering. not just well-known things like the zigzag floors in both, the sound design (heavy use of foley, which is an investment that ALWAYS pays off imo), black and white scenes, pacing.

but also the very beginning of eraserhead is very similar to the twin peaks narrative of the atomic bomb and a sort of "birth of evil", a sending of a celestial body to earth or some version of earth that's not quite right.

yep EH and episode 8 are both cosmologies, or maybe alternate views of the same cosmology

I happen to be in the middle of a (very) longform analysis of The Return; she goes into great detail around the visual and thematic parallels w/Eraserhead (and Blue Velvet).

sweeeeeeet, i want to read that.

also: eraserhead is funny. like, very, very funny. i guess people know that, but in the pop culture lynch word cloud, i feel like "funny" doesn't come up often, and especially not for stuff like eraserhead, which is also very, very terrifying. but i can see why it grabbed the attention of mel brooks - absurd recognizes absurd. (probably influenced by the fact that the first words i saw on the screen on my millionth rewatch this evening were "ABSURDA")

thanks for that link morrisp - enjoying the deep dive

was just reading the bit about the ep 1 New York box - she talks about the horror movie trope of being punished for having sex and that's absolutely in play (I appreciate too her kinder reading of sex representing a scary unknown for younger people) - and I remember there's definitely a sense that fucking somehow summons the entity in the box...

but in tandem with this there's a feeling that the dude is being derelict in his duty by _not watching the box_, like that's his One Job - and I was toying with the idea of this being a inverse of the schrodinger's cat thought experiment - like maybe that watching the box is the thing that stops some kind of terrifying quantum uncertainty from manifesting - then in the next paragraph that critic starts to talk about Heisenberg but coming at it from a completely different route - via coffee and Annie in S2 and Alphaville! - and anyway it was quite a trippy couple of paragraphs to be reading before dawn

I feel I will never grow tired of letting my mind roam over the landscape of this show

Glad you're enjoying it! Yeah, her attention to detail is incredible - I mean just incredible, she pores over every detail of the frame - and she goes on some fascinating tangents (and even if a certain % of the connections she draws may seem dubious, in a "no way could all this actually have been intended" kind of way, her free associations are fascinating all the same).

I discovered that site around four years ago, in the context of her Kubrick writing, and read her shot-by-shot analysis of Eyes Wide Shut (it took me days!). I revisited it a week or so ago, and found she had tackled The Return in the interim... I was like, oohhhh snap, gotta read this.

(Also, certain aspects of The Return have always felt sort of Kubrick-ian to me; so it was satisfying to see that this particular Kubrick nut is also a TP/Lynch nut.)

It's also a nice complement to other online Twin Peaks writing (my personal favorite is by this guy), because she doesn't get so much into analyzing the "big picture" questions or coming up with big theories, and instead tackles the show on more a nuts & bolts level of what a viewer's impressions may be as they watch in real time (though obviously she's writing it after having absorbed it all).