xp Gee. If you would like to make it a competition, as I vaguely recall being reported, Trump was cited for about 20,000 blatant untruths during his presidency. So may that those who kept track eventually gave up on attempting a thorough accounting. How about citing Biden's score since his inauguration? He'd need about 1900 more than the one we're discussing to keep up with Trump.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link
btw, I am not in any way arguing that Biden's denial that the US has frequently interfered with elections was anything but untrue. It was so far from the truth it enters the realm of delusion. What I am arguing is that this sort of participation in the collective delusions of the US masses has an identifiable political value, and substituting the dismal truth in that situation would have had almost zero practical benefit to society.
The only viable alternative was to say nothing about US history in this regard, but he chose to surf on the delusion in order to leverage the delusion on his behalf. That is not admirable, but it is good politics. As the newspaper editor at the end of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" says at the end, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend. The legend of US purity and benevolence is unalterable fact to tens of millions.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link
wonder why
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link
maybe something to do with entrenched power spreading falsehoods deliberately over decadeswho can say
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link
I blame Joe Biden. He could fix it if he wanted to.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link
thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting in these threads lol peace
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link
you should run for office instead. the world needs you.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:52 (three years ago) link
Unless you think puppetmasters are literally putting words in Sleepy Joe’s mouth… he actually can fix this. No one makes him say stupid and absolutely false things like “the US interfere in elections? Who could imagine that, Jack?”
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link
I noted he had the alternative of saying nothing about that history. So we agree about that.
I was addressing the contention that Joe refraining from lying about the US history in this instance would somehow affect how history is written and generally was estimating how much measurable 'good' would have been accomplished by his saying nothing at all, or alternatively citing chapter and verse of all the US crimes in this regard, while he was speaking about Russian interference in US elections.
It's not like these facts are mysteries to ILXors; they are not buried by historians. The conversation was about Biden saying one stupid, untrue thing in order to strengthen his contention that the Russian interference was bad for the USA by citing a pure falsehood about our history. As cause for complaint in presidential conduct this is just belly scratching. We do it mainly because it feels good.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
RIP Champ
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 19 June 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
is it beneficial to have all elected reps be sociopaths who think that voters are too stupid or fragile not to lie to, or does it kick in at a certain level of influence?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 19 June 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link
i dunno bro, ask Obama
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
sic's just a curious guy, askin' questions
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link
wait, is "Aimless" not Obama's login? I don't read Springsteen threads
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 20 June 2021 02:29 (three years ago) link
I think there's more than one ilxor who'd feel insulted to equate me with Barack Obama.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 20 June 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
Joe Bombin
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 2 July 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
holy shit this guy gets it and is done with the bullshit pic.twitter.com/8ypsnG1htV— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) July 23, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 July 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link
Some good news about judges.
President Biden and the Democratic-controlled Senate have installed more federal judges during the first six months of his presidency than any administration since Richard Nixon's.
Why it matters: While Democrats may spend more time talking publicly about vaccines and infrastructure, the rapid pace of both nominations and confirmations shows judges are one of the party's most urgent priorities. President Trump pushed through his own slate of judges to boost conservatives for decades.
By the numbers: Biden has had eight federal judges confirmed since taking office on Jan. 20
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 July 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
After weeks of silence, the White House is now saying -- just 3 days before the eviction moratorium expires -- that they want Congress to extend it but can't themselvesMy reporting suggests no senior officials in the WH were pushing for an extension even before the court ruling https://t.co/Zn96xgwBYT— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) July 29, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 30 July 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link
this fucking white supremacist rapist mass murdering cop loving piece of shit scum ramping up the ethnic cleansing that people insisted his administration would protect against is it
― Left, Saturday, 31 July 2021 11:34 (three years ago) link
the attempts to defend this shit in the comments are absolutely repulsive, liberals are fucking monsters
I looked this up because you didn’t link anything… two days after a CNN story abt it isn’t breaking anything. He’s speeding up asylum processing, which is very good, so obviously deportations of those who don’t qualify would toohttps://t.co/E7B7Yr3axf— domnahm (@d_vasapolli) July 29, 2021
― Left, Saturday, 31 July 2021 11:36 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7gXSE2VcAEI0Lk?format=jpg
That last part in blue is particularly important. He's been using title 42 expulsions this whole time to crack down on Haitians while claiming his deportation numbers are low.— 🏞️➡️🌊🇵🇸🔜🆓 (@JackDexterity) July 30, 2021
― Left, Saturday, 31 July 2021 11:39 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/07/us/politics/biden-congress-eviction-moratorium.html
But as the relief money moved slowly and the Delta variant surged, members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus pressed Gene Sperling, who oversees pandemic relief programs for the White House, and Mr. Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain, to commit to another extension. The officials were pessimistic and noncommittal. On July 27, Mr. Sperling emailed the group’s chairwoman, Pramila Jayapal, a Democrat from the Seattle area, to say the answer was a firm “no.” That was followed by a call from Mr. Klain, who asked her to delay a news conference denouncing the move.Ms. Jayapal refused.“Then we began agitating and building a chorus,” Ms Jayapal said.
Ms. Jayapal refused.
“Then we began agitating and building a chorus,” Ms Jayapal said.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 8 August 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link
I guess activists couldn't move Joe Biden after all.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link
lol what a gotcha!!!
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/267/swedish_chef.jpg
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
Sure would be nice if Jayapal was Speaker.
― JoeStork, Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
hi, map!! It's been a while!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
hi just putting in the minimal effort to call out your facile milo zing, excited to skip over more of your sloppy writing and thinking in the future. cheers!
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
Hi! I wasn't zinging you -- I was genuinely saying hi -- but I suppose shallow reading is something you excel at.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link
haha it is! sorry alfred.
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
― JoeStork
I have been saying this
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:40 (three years ago) link
seconded
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
and because many stories since January have attested to her White House connections -- i.e. a direct line exists between her and them -- it makes sense.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 August 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link
If Jayapal is the successor, I'm more than willing to let go of Pelosi. Since my personal congressional rep is a fucking blue dog who voted against Pelosi for her current Speaker's term in the hope of moving the caucus to the right, I'm hesitant to think that Jayapal can win the votes she needs to move the caucus left.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 9 August 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
As much as I would like Jayapal in that role, I thought the conventional wisdom was that Hakeem Jeffries would be Pelosi's successor.
― jaymc, Monday, 9 August 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link
Pelosi needs to do go away after the midterms no matter what. Today would be cool too
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 August 2021 05:05 (three years ago) link
you can tell the media is really 100% turning against Biden because they're starting to transcribe what he says as he actually says it https://t.co/YDyx2vlllE— WILLI (@muenzenberg_w) August 20, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 20 August 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link
what a piece of shit tweet that would be shared by anyone's racist dumbass cousin.
― "Rocky Top" and "Funky Bitch" are songs I never look forward to (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 21 August 2021 05:22 (three years ago) link
Not to be Cap'n Save-a-Biden, but I thought it tolerably well known that the dude has had a stutter since he was a child.
― subpoena colada (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 21 August 2021 12:22 (three years ago) link
Even if you think that's what it is rather than being an ancient man, the joke of the tweet is that the media that's been 100% in the bag for him and covered every time someone questioned him is starting to highlight what might be embarrassing pauses and stutters.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
What about them do you find embarrassing?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
the joke of the tweet
the ppm of humor in that tweet were at undetectable levels
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
Did you read the two words before that? (Or the rest of them, for that matter.)
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
what a strange conclusion to draw
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
xp
Honestly, it is nearly impossible to parse out what you get out of that tweet or your reasons for posting it ar all.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
Dunkin' on Unkie Joe iirc
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
The media’s response to Pull Out Joe after two years of puff pieces and covering for him is funny.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
especially bc they're doing it bc they're hawks
actually now it's less funny
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 August 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link
So kudos to the press because they punished the unforgivable sin of leaving Afghanistan by highlighting his old age/stutter?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 21 August 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link