Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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But column-writing was seen as something of a private members’ club: elitist, dusty and distant.

This was my best bit, she is v funny tbfttl

that which does not chungus makes us chonger (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:20 (four years ago)

so it's only really "The End" for the 180 Weekend staff the Guardian have laid off

calzino, Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:25 (four years ago)

The Guardian: "why do we expect such a conformity of opinion?"

Also The Guardian: *deletes interviews that do not conform* pic.twitter.com/BD4CXtMksl

— Adam Smith (@adamndsmith) September 18, 2021

this is a very good point

calzino, Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:41 (four years ago)

I loved the way they closed the comments so that quite fortuitously this one remains on top (after the eulogising Guardian Picks):

Dear Hadley,

It has been marvellous to see your journalism evolve. You are a wonderful writer and I have treasured your fearlessness and independent-mindedness in confronting and examining questions others have fought shy of. I will be looking forward to reading more of your interviews and features on film, literature and culture, wherever they are published. Go well.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:50 (four years ago)

"Go well"? Is that a thing people say?

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:00 (four years ago)

it sounds like Dungeons & Dragons speak.

calzino, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:15 (four years ago)

ppl do say it yes, i have used it in obits (of ppl who actually died that i was fond of)

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:19 (four years ago)

when do i get my guardian column

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:19 (four years ago)

what do you say in obits when you're not fond of ppl?

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:25 (four years ago)

Milne has a lot to answer for.

This is my favourite lol moment:

"None of this is why I’m stopping the column. It’s just time."

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:26 (four years ago)

"RIP: they didn't know why they were hated"

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:29 (four years ago)

when do i get my guardian column

― mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 bookmarkflaglink

If you want one I suggest you study the masters

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/adrian-chiles

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:39 (four years ago)

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Seems a bit harsh, especially if they saw themselves more as ".. wide circle of friends, colourful array of lovers, and lived an extraordinarily full life."

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:46 (four years ago)

tbf that's why they were hated

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:51 (four years ago)

would like to live in a country where a centre left paper might be fair minded enough to include the resignation of 2 members of staff over LGBT+ issues, her publicly identifying one of them, union reaction to this, trans members leaving party or even her comments this morning https://t.co/9AkeG0USUn

— a rare photo of sean connery signed by roger moore (@steamedhamms) September 20, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 September 2021 11:22 (four years ago)

tv guide has gone tabloid format, which is much less handy to have open beside you on the sofa 8(

koogs, Saturday, 25 September 2021 10:54 (four years ago)

Missed the separate Review section today. That said, like to read Alys Fowler and Rachel Roddy on a Saturday ... and they are both still there.

djh, Saturday, 25 September 2021 21:58 (four years ago)

wow

journo solidarity is so powerful pic.twitter.com/tQsRpz5QuV

— josh (@lobstereo) September 28, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:44 (four years ago)

They're worse than policemen and doctors when it comes to protecting their own at all costs.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:46 (four years ago)

also his "journalism" was mostly making shit up, right?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:59 (four years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/29/how-safe-is-the-cinema-experts-weigh-in-on-risks-as-no-time-to-die-opens

This was so feebly reported it annoyed me beyond any need

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:40 (four years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/D4Tudj3.png

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 21:39 (four years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/03/which-bit-of-women-need-safe-places-dont-men-understand

From the sub-heading on down this was only going to end up in one place, that place being transphobic bullshit. And lo! - there it is.

baking on ice is on in ten minutes (Matt #2), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:20 (four years ago)

haha the sunday revive of this thread is so reliable. god i hate the guardian/observer.

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:42 (four years ago)

hmmm i wonder whether trans people or the kind of men who ally themselves with terfs are the bigger threat to safe spaces?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:53 (four years ago)

the logic is impeccable

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:53 (four years ago)

thought this week’s revive might be about the Nick Cohen piece (guess who are the enemies of free speech?)

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:19 (four years ago)

Not clicking the link obviously but how do these people always try to directly argue with men about this shit without referencing the majority of women who are in favour of trans women having access to women's bathrooms and shelters

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:30 (four years ago)

Thought the revive might be the Philippa Perry advice column … but the btl commentators are unintentionally quite funny rather than irritating this week, as they try to make sense of a rather vague problem scenario.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:43 (four years ago)

its the same old shit that posits 'bleeding heart liberals' or w/e as the cynical vanguard pushing political correctness under the guise of equality for dubious and withheld reasons, conveniently without addressing (or seemingly even noticing), you know, the rights, demands and political organising of minorities.

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:47 (four years ago)

Meanwhile, I'd be very happy to hear from women who have worked with Nick whether he is the champion they would choose for women's rights in the workplace. Happy to keep your name confidential, if you prefer.

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) October 3, 2021

hah hah the fox-clubber is on the warpath against Cohen

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 12:07 (four years ago)

would be pretty funny to see Nick being cornered into actually apologising for something

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 3 October 2021 12:26 (four years ago)

Hate the alarmist reporting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/we-might-not-be-over-the-worst-scientists-warn-as-covid-case-numbers-stay-high

There is no sign of a new strain, why are they quoting a Prof who has been predicting this to happen? Case numbers did bump up a bit but now it's stabilizing. Hospitalisations and deaths are going down.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAyOSbdVEAQ6WoS?format=png&name=900x900

how does a journo get away with being a repeat offender around woman for decades? With a little bit of help from his friends usually

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:41 (four years ago)

Follow Back Pro Sexual Harrassment

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:42 (four years ago)

in my experience cis dude journalists love sexual harassment and want more of it

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:46 (four years ago)

Look I’m sure he doesn’t really want to defend the groping, just feels he has to in order to defend the transphobia. Be fair ppl

siffleur’s mom (wins), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:15 (four years ago)

i presumed it was bald solidarity

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:46 (four years ago)

Doubly ironic in the wake of the deluge of why-oh-why think pieces about the police's toxic culture of misogyny. I think I said it earlier this week, journalists are even more protective of their own kind than the filth.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:51 (four years ago)

this is true and also not true: owen jones absolutely does not receive full solidarity even when he's attacked in the street by fascists

i mean bcz he is judged to be "not of their own kind" obviously -- but that's part of why the fascists are attacking him

mark s, Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:03 (four years ago)

Indeed.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:13 (four years ago)

The Picture of Dorian Lynskey: they find a portrait of a really cool and interesting man in his attic

— PolProf Wariotifo (@wariotifo) November 18, 2014

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 3 October 2021 18:21 (four years ago)

There are journalists who argue that OJ is not a journalist.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 3 October 2021 22:00 (four years ago)

what standards are they using to judge him? Maybe OJ has been a bit of a weathervane at times but many of his detractors have been slippery hypocritical liars and bigots at least 90% of the time and that is being generous.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 22:15 (four years ago)

Guardian runs an article about yesterday's anti-Bolsonaro protests, that brought 700,000 out in Brazil. It doesn't mention any of the labor unions and social movements that organized them or the PT. It couldn't find a photo to run that wasn't full of PT flags though. pic.twitter.com/ck4q8DYKns

— BrianMier (@BrianMteleSUR) October 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 07:18 (four years ago)

Lol, standard.

plax (ico), Monday, 4 October 2021 07:38 (four years ago)

they might succeed in putting me off Succession

Number None, Friday, 15 October 2021 11:05 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB1yBzTXIAQivHc?format=jpg&name=medium

a variation of statue of liberty crying.gif in the Graun today it seems, such fucking risible shit!

calzino, Sunday, 17 October 2021 16:36 (four years ago)

that is fucking despicable

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 October 2021 16:41 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB1zzPCWYAM12zP?format=jpg&name=small

that's more like it

calzino, Sunday, 17 October 2021 17:01 (four years ago)


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