Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers

just1n3 -- omg, ugh, I am so sorry. Yeah it's the "just doesn't try" part that can make you just want to quit. ... your co-worker sounds like ... one of my clients tbh.

My primary co-worker has actually become way more self-aware about many of his annoying habits. It's become quite nice, actually ... and he actually has demonstrated that he has a sense of humor. Like, this guy is a classic namedropper. The most hilarious example so far has been a couple years ago when we were discussing our org's Google Drive and file systems. I think I was complaining that one of our clients seemed incapable of putting files in folders. And my co-worker responds, "I actually know the guy who invented the folder."

So the other day we were talking about what drew us to be members of and organize DIY venues, and he was talking about going to punk shows as a teenager in the 80s, and mentions Fugazi, and says, "You know, my friend, Ian, who I talk to every other day." And I said, "You talk to Ian MacKaye every other day?" And he said, "No, I was joking. I don't know Ian MacKaye personally."

Haa... I've got no beefs with anyone at my company, but that last one hit home.

We've been switching our subscriber email database from one company to another, which has involved a lot of Zoom meetings where we and the new service study spreadsheets. Exciting!

One "random" subscriber they brought up was a guy who's well-known to us, but maybe not to a bunch of Chicagoland tech workers. Nonetheless, a co-worker pipes up and goes on to describe the guy's social standing, "He was a member of Gov. Clinton's administration and has since created a very successful company that ..." and the rest of us were "Shut. Up. And. Quit. Embarrassing. Us. In. Front. Of. The. Yankees. Please."

one of my instructors got this email from an actual team manager today (only edited for redacting names):

"Thank you for reaching out I have had a conversation with (REDACTED) regarding his constant system issues he did reach out on Friday due to system issues however it was 6 pm and IT was no longer in the building to assist , This morning he reached out as well regarding system issues IT did take control of his computer and notice he does have a defective computer he is supposed to come in today to switch out his computer and he will be staying on site until the end of the day, I did inform (REDACTED) that if he continue to have system issues after this then he will have to come back to office permanently to work. As far as his assessments I have received 1 and 2 from him, He is adamant about getting 3 and 4 done today after training I have also spoken to him and asked why hasn't he shared his assessments with (REDACTED) and (REDACTED) he responded that he thought they were supposed to be shared with his TL I informed him to please send over all test scores to (REDACTED) and (REDACTED) once he has finished 3 and 4. I do apologize on his behalf and please know that you guys will have assessments 3 and 4 by tomorrow. Thanks for all you guys do."

The coworker who is trying to "get back" at our bosses for eliminating the work from home option by cooking fish in a SHARED FUCKING OFFICE every day this week just might drive me to quit. Three days in a row I'm so nauseous I can't eat lunch.

I love fish. I would never cook it in an office. what the actual fuck.

that'd get you dropped out of a window here

David Lynch to thread!

When people microwave fish it is bad enough.

lol, to be clear, she did microwave it. It's atrocious. Two of us said something to her yesterday and her response was, "if they are going to make me come in every single day, they have to deal with my food smells". EXCEPT THE BOSSES AREN'T HERE TO SMELL IT AND YOU ARE PUNISHING THE REST OF US.

yeah that reads more like "I want to eat fish and this is the excuse I have found that suits it"

you need to cook something REALLY stinky tomorrow

My mind is reeling with possibilities of how to top this. I'm mostly just stunned, every place I've ever worked had a basic understanding that some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.

I've got nothing against fish, in fact I've enjoyed some wonderful seafood in my life, but there is something about the smell in a non-restaurant setting that absolutely nauseates me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ

I mean there are also people in the office that don't find fish delicious and are overwhelmed by the aroma in any environment. one of my classmates in 4th grade kept screaming at me to put down my tuna fish sandwich cos he was too grossed out to eat his lunch.

maybe a cow shit bagel will top things

When I was office sitting, we had a guy who'd nuke fish and stink up the area. Berating him made no difference. Some folks are gleefully wankers.

Close quarters makes any mild smell more noticeable and the bad smells (fish, buttery popcorn, over-applied perfume/cologne) nausea-inducing. One guy used to OCD have plain toast every day, and I got to hate that smell.

Yes. Also have a weird thing as my sense of smell ever so slowly comes back after COVID, I am somewhat extra-sensitive to whatever I do smell.

Yes. Also have a weird thing as my sense of smell ever so slowly comes back after COVID, I am somewhat extra-sensitive to whatever I do smell.

strong smells can trigger headaches for me and i would straight up murder someone who was heating up fish everyday.

jon is this the same co-worker who made popcorn every day years ago

haha, good memory! Nope, that was at my old job. No more popcorn but I can say that fish is NOT an upgrade.

some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.

honestly, a lot of these biases end up being super white supremacist in practice tbh. Like, whenever I see / read someone complaining about "how dare someone microwave fish in a shared office," I think, "what whitebread middle American racist shithole did you come from that makes you confident that fish smells bad, followed by, can you stop being an asshole."

When we first moved to England from China my wife wanted to take a lunchbox of freshly cooked, hot food to my son at his primary school, which was literally a one-minute walk across the road, so surely NBD, yes? We were surprised that the school flipped out about this every time, the policy was, either you have cold sandwiches or you have fried stuff from the canteen, wanting anything else was taken as an insult to the school. They inspected the food and gave us pamphlets about healthy eating which seemed to be written for parents who thought it was OK to feed their kids exclusively on crisps, it was really clear that they thought "don't know what that weird foreign stuff is, but it must be bad." So yeah, I also feel there is something really wrong with work/school lunch.

Im a sometime fisherman son of fishermen from an island off an island in the atlantic ocean and i can confirm that not wanting your shared workspace to smell of reheated fish is not super white supremacist

lol

xp - you are white though, yes?

I actually like the fish smell, so I guess we all can be glad that I don't share a workplace with you

Holy shit, I’ve seen a lot of bullshit on this board in the past but being called a white supremacist for believing that fish is not okay for a shared workspace really takes the fucking cake.

Jesus.

Here’s a good one. My boss made a homophobic remark about a gay coworker and I complained about it and got fired.

fucking hell Shaun, that's horrible. I suppose you've been given a gift being out of a work environment like that but it's still awful.

here's an Australian article about the issue:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-14/is-dislike-of-smelly-food-actually-cultural-intolerance/8891618

This article also refers to the racist component of complaining about food smells
https://roguecollective.ie/ten-microaggressions-in-the-workplace

it shows up in this tv show:
https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a36133403/adjani-salmon-dreaming-whilst-black/

sarahell what kind of fish was that??

I have heard of people going crazy over smells they aren't used to, curries and whatnot, that's their problem yeah.

In my previous office someone bought a plastic pouch for cooking eggs in the microwave. A few of us had to beg her to give it up cuz we thought we were going to pass out. She didn't seem to have a clue what we were smelling.

i don't think "fish" unlike curry, kimchi, etc. is associated with a race or ethnicity. popcorn also smells bad. as do cheap candles. i also do not like the smell of overripe bananas. def wouldn't think of complaining about a person's cultural food.

also people just microwave fish for longer than they should, would probably be fine otherwise

Lots of stuff that is actually delicious makes grim smells in an office microwave.

not to mention it's distracting. I love fish but smelling it for hours while I'm trying to work is not pleasant. esp after i've eaten, am not hungry anymore, and not likely to be enticed by its smell.

also yeah, not really getting "fish" as a cultural thing! unless it's a type of fish that is a regional delicacy (Japanese freshwater eel), as opposed to say, salmon or haddock, which are eaten everywhere, it's not the same thing as like complaining about someone's tandoori chicken or Jamaican meat patties.

a coworker made a bastardized seafood “bouillabasse” and brought the whole lot of it in a crockpot to work, and set it up in a empty cubicle in our work area as an “hey i made soup” station where it stayed all day

pretty sure that smell seeped into my skin and is still there

it was not cultural at all, it was “9 kinds of fish/shellfish simmering all day is not a smell you want in the work area”

Beastie Boys made a mean B-Boy bouillabasse

Is this trolling

Trawling, more like.

Always enjoy tuning into ilx to find out things like, when I get a migraine triggered by strong odors, it’s actually because I’m a white supremacist.

I'm saying -- what people feel is an "inappropriate food smell" is mostly based on cultural norms and where they grew up and what food smelled like growing up. Because most of us live in places like the U.S. and the UK where white supremacy exists, the cultural norms of that dominant white culture end up being prescribed as "universal". It becomes "microwaved fish smells bad" as opposed to "it smells bad to me" and acknowledging your own cultural biases.

And I hope we are beyond having to do the remedial definition of white supremacy, which has shifted from "member of KKK" etc. ... like, I see the food smell issue as somewhat illustrative of the ideas around structural racism and white supremacy -- these things are ingrained biases and assumptions and it doesn't make you evil to have them. Just that, to be a better person, you should acknowledge you have them and, in general, not be a dick about complaining what other people's food smells like.

... in a way that hurts them, makes them feel unwelcome, etc. ... complaining about it on ILX where assumedly your actual coworkers won't be hurt or offended is way less bad.

Remember, kids: If there's a shitty food smell in your office, wait for a non-white person to complain first. Then it's OK to chime in. Otherwise, you're being oppressive.

What about ppl who like fish and grew up in fish-loving families that think fish-smell in workplace is still a no-go?

I get what sarahell is saying for sure. But in my case, and I’m sure it’s similar for others here, a person of any ethnicity (they are usually white in my case) nuking some salmon or tuna will drive me right out of the room for an extended “break” everytime.

I'm still not buying "hating fish smell" = cultural bias since if you grow up on the East Coast, chances are you're exposed to "fish" culture. And 72% of US fishermen are white.

Obviously I acknowledge "eww your food is stinky" CAN be a product of cultural intolerance, but fish is a reach

the smell is not that bad… you people are soft

I say this as someone who has never complained about food smells too

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i envisage where you're coming from, sarahell, but also you're going way overboard

i mean i have lived in the midwest, but also the smell of microwave popcorn is among the worst things in the world

maybe first we should have workplaces that don't involve having to smell each others heated food packets