The coworker who is trying to "get back" at our bosses for eliminating the work from home option by cooking fish in a SHARED FUCKING OFFICE every day this week just might drive me to quit. Three days in a row I'm so nauseous I can't eat lunch.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
I love fish. I would never cook it in an office. what the actual fuck.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
that'd get you dropped out of a window here
David Lynch to thread!
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
When people microwave fish it is bad enough.
lol, to be clear, she did microwave it. It's atrocious. Two of us said something to her yesterday and her response was, "if they are going to make me come in every single day, they have to deal with my food smells". EXCEPT THE BOSSES AREN'T HERE TO SMELL IT AND YOU ARE PUNISHING THE REST OF US.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
yeah that reads more like "I want to eat fish and this is the excuse I have found that suits it"
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
you need to cook something REALLY stinky tomorrow
My mind is reeling with possibilities of how to top this. I'm mostly just stunned, every place I've ever worked had a basic understanding that some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.
I've got nothing against fish, in fact I've enjoyed some wonderful seafood in my life, but there is something about the smell in a non-restaurant setting that absolutely nauseates me.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
I mean there are also people in the office that don't find fish delicious and are overwhelmed by the aroma in any environment. one of my classmates in 4th grade kept screaming at me to put down my tuna fish sandwich cos he was too grossed out to eat his lunch.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
maybe a cow shit bagel will top things
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
When I was office sitting, we had a guy who'd nuke fish and stink up the area. Berating him made no difference. Some folks are gleefully wankers.
Close quarters makes any mild smell more noticeable and the bad smells (fish, buttery popcorn, over-applied perfume/cologne) nausea-inducing. One guy used to OCD have plain toast every day, and I got to hate that smell.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
Yes. Also have a weird thing as my sense of smell ever so slowly comes back after COVID, I am somewhat extra-sensitive to whatever I do smell.
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link
strong smells can trigger headaches for me and i would straight up murder someone who was heating up fish everyday.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
jon is this the same co-worker who made popcorn every day years ago
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
haha, good memory! Nope, that was at my old job. No more popcorn but I can say that fish is NOT an upgrade.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link
some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.
honestly, a lot of these biases end up being super white supremacist in practice tbh. Like, whenever I see / read someone complaining about "how dare someone microwave fish in a shared office," I think, "what whitebread middle American racist shithole did you come from that makes you confident that fish smells bad, followed by, can you stop being an asshole."
― sarahell, Saturday, 25 September 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link
When we first moved to England from China my wife wanted to take a lunchbox of freshly cooked, hot food to my son at his primary school, which was literally a one-minute walk across the road, so surely NBD, yes? We were surprised that the school flipped out about this every time, the policy was, either you have cold sandwiches or you have fried stuff from the canteen, wanting anything else was taken as an insult to the school. They inspected the food and gave us pamphlets about healthy eating which seemed to be written for parents who thought it was OK to feed their kids exclusively on crisps, it was really clear that they thought "don't know what that weird foreign stuff is, but it must be bad." So yeah, I also feel there is something really wrong with work/school lunch.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 September 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link
Im a sometime fisherman son of fishermen from an island off an island in the atlantic ocean and i can confirm that not wanting your shared workspace to smell of reheated fish is not super white supremacist
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 September 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link
lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
xp - you are white though, yes?
― sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link
I actually like the fish smell, so I guess we all can be glad that I don't share a workplace with you
― sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
Holy shit, I’ve seen a lot of bullshit on this board in the past but being called a white supremacist for believing that fish is not okay for a shared workspace really takes the fucking cake.
Jesus.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 26 September 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link
Here’s a good one. My boss made a homophobic remark about a gay coworker and I complained about it and got fired.
― Shaun, Sunday, 26 September 2021 07:30 (three years ago) link
fucking hell Shaun, that's horrible. I suppose you've been given a gift being out of a work environment like that but it's still awful.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 September 2021 08:41 (three years ago) link
here's an Australian article about the issue:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-14/is-dislike-of-smelly-food-actually-cultural-intolerance/8891618
This article also refers to the racist component of complaining about food smellshttps://roguecollective.ie/ten-microaggressions-in-the-workplace
it shows up in this tv show:https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a36133403/adjani-salmon-dreaming-whilst-black/
― sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 10:19 (three years ago) link
sarahell what kind of fish was that??I have heard of people going crazy over smells they aren't used to, curries and whatnot, that's their problem yeah. In my previous office someone bought a plastic pouch for cooking eggs in the microwave. A few of us had to beg her to give it up cuz we thought we were going to pass out. She didn't seem to have a clue what we were smelling.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:00 (three years ago) link
i don't think "fish" unlike curry, kimchi, etc. is associated with a race or ethnicity. popcorn also smells bad. as do cheap candles. i also do not like the smell of overripe bananas. def wouldn't think of complaining about a person's cultural food.
also people just microwave fish for longer than they should, would probably be fine otherwise
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:17 (three years ago) link
Lots of stuff that is actually delicious makes grim smells in an office microwave.
― kinder, Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link
not to mention it's distracting. I love fish but smelling it for hours while I'm trying to work is not pleasant. esp after i've eaten, am not hungry anymore, and not likely to be enticed by its smell.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 13:50 (three years ago) link
also yeah, not really getting "fish" as a cultural thing! unless it's a type of fish that is a regional delicacy (Japanese freshwater eel), as opposed to say, salmon or haddock, which are eaten everywhere, it's not the same thing as like complaining about someone's tandoori chicken or Jamaican meat patties.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link
a coworker made a bastardized seafood “bouillabasse” and brought the whole lot of it in a crockpot to work, and set it up in a empty cubicle in our work area as an “hey i made soup” station where it stayed all day pretty sure that smell seeped into my skin and is still there it was not cultural at all, it was “9 kinds of fish/shellfish simmering all day is not a smell you want in the work area”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link
Beastie Boys made a mean B-Boy bouillabasse
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link
Is this trolling
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link
Trawling, more like.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link
Always enjoy tuning into ilx to find out things like, when I get a migraine triggered by strong odors, it’s actually because I’m a white supremacist.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
I'm saying -- what people feel is an "inappropriate food smell" is mostly based on cultural norms and where they grew up and what food smelled like growing up. Because most of us live in places like the U.S. and the UK where white supremacy exists, the cultural norms of that dominant white culture end up being prescribed as "universal". It becomes "microwaved fish smells bad" as opposed to "it smells bad to me" and acknowledging your own cultural biases.
And I hope we are beyond having to do the remedial definition of white supremacy, which has shifted from "member of KKK" etc. ... like, I see the food smell issue as somewhat illustrative of the ideas around structural racism and white supremacy -- these things are ingrained biases and assumptions and it doesn't make you evil to have them. Just that, to be a better person, you should acknowledge you have them and, in general, not be a dick about complaining what other people's food smells like.
― sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:04 (three years ago) link
... in a way that hurts them, makes them feel unwelcome, etc. ... complaining about it on ILX where assumedly your actual coworkers won't be hurt or offended is way less bad.
― sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link
Remember, kids: If there's a shitty food smell in your office, wait for a non-white person to complain first. Then it's OK to chime in. Otherwise, you're being oppressive.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:25 (three years ago) link
What about ppl who like fish and grew up in fish-loving families that think fish-smell in workplace is still a no-go?
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link
I get what sarahell is saying for sure. But in my case, and I’m sure it’s similar for others here, a person of any ethnicity (they are usually white in my case) nuking some salmon or tuna will drive me right out of the room for an extended “break” everytime.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link
I'm still not buying "hating fish smell" = cultural bias since if you grow up on the East Coast, chances are you're exposed to "fish" culture. And 72% of US fishermen are white.
Obviously I acknowledge "eww your food is stinky" CAN be a product of cultural intolerance, but fish is a reach
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link
the smell is not that bad… you people are soft
― brimstead, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
I say this as someone who has never complained about food smells too
Xpost
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
i envisage where you're coming from, sarahell, but also you're going way overboard
i mean i have lived in the midwest, but also the smell of microwave popcorn is among the worst things in the world
maybe first we should have workplaces that don't involve having to smell each others heated food packets
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link
Yeah c’mon, fish smell permeates everything and lingers in an enclosed space. If you eat a cold sandwich or salad near me, I’m not going to smell like your meal until I shower and wash my clothes. If you microwave fish and eat it near me, I just might. This has fuck-all to do with anything but situational awareness and caring about the comfort of others around you.
― epistantophus, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
Cold fish = totally fine
― epistantophus, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
Throwing fish at ppl the best
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link