Oh, he's the "could you send me nude outtakes of Vinessa Shaw please" guy. I thought he rang a bell.
https://deadline.com/2007/09/creepiest-email-from-a-blogger-to-hollywood-3216/
― Alba, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
He's such a sexist/racist/other -ist turd and he's been a turd for years. I have no doubt the same people that say "actors have to be pretty" mock actors that go sans makeup etc. in movies for chasing awards.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
PTA's been on a roll since 2012 imo.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
2014
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
PTA's been on a roll since his first movie, imo. Even his not great movies, whichever ones one thinks are not great, are always interesting and worth seeing.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
And Jeffrey Wells has leaned so far into his role as an idiot villain he makes nu-Arm0nd look nuanced and insightful in comparison. At least the latter still watches and analyzes movies, some of the time.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
i pledge to never read anything about movies ever again unless an ilxor wrote it
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
wells' review of Wizard of Oz (1939) - "judy garland is certainly a bombshell and a good casting decision, but what's with the long dress all the time? the tin man, scarecrow, and lion supporting cast was an absolute mess - all three are clearly older men in costumes and makeup. and why didn't scarecrow have a sex scene with dorothy at the end? clearly there was a connection there."
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link
Counterpoint: nah
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link
I really really did not like The Master but it was interesting and I guess worth seeing somehow. Moreso than say Hateful 8 which I didn't like either but didn't have as strong a negative reaction as with The Master.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
I can watch Hard Eight anytime but can't finish Magnolia and will not dare to endure Punch Drunk Love again.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link
My hot take is that The Master had some wonderful scenes and incredible performances, but was not a very good movie.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link
i am not the one to be in this discussion, because i am a fool, but i'll bet that to some people, "some wonderful scenes and incredible performances" adds up to a "good movie", even if the rest of the elements aren't quite so impressive. kind of like a musical performance/album can be saved by some exceptional elements
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link
i'm not sure i believe that, mind you -- i don't, i don't think -- but just wondrin
I hated "Hateful Eight" so much.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
I was being a little flip, I just didn't think it all held together as a satisfying film. I loved PSH and Joaquin's performances and they had some incredible moments together, but I was frustrated that they only hinted at some of the more interesting things going on around them (Amy Adams was wasted, imo, and I think there was a more interesting thread about how her character influenced Dodd, but it was only hinted at). I didn't hate the move, it's just the last PTA movie I want to revisit at this point.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
Eh I'm already wanted to walk back that Adams was "wasted", I just wanted more of her in it.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link
almost everyone in the movie was wasted to one degree or another though, haha, wouldn't surprise me
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link
To borrow from Kael, The Master was straining so hard to be great it wasn't even good.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
did you even SEE that scene where joaquin phoenix fucks the sand though? to me, that was everything
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
Paging Wakefield Poole.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link
I just reviewed the key plot lines of Boys in the Sand and I don’t see anything about fucking the actual sand. I will continue to believe that PT Anderson and Phoenix pioneered sand masturbation until confronted with earlier footage
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
straining so hard to be great it wasn't even good
This describes Boogie Nights perfectly.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
I want to like Boogie Nights more than I do, but as a writer he fell in love with the character bits that didn't cohere into characters, then couldn't orchestrate them.
I've realized the PTA I like is the director of comedies and chamber dramas.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
Except Boogie Nights is a comedy, imo, and a great one at that.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
Straining so hard to be great it's not even any good describes stuff like The Irishman, not Boogie Nights, imo. Boogie Nights might be kids stuff, but he was practically a kid, and I can't fault the directing or the acting, and more than a handful of scenes are practically iconic at this point. Not even considering that movie good strikes me as revisionism, though I suppose if you don't like it you just don't like it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
"you" in this case being any of us.
xp to myself - At least the first 2/3rds before the heavy handedness kicks in.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
His more explicit comedies, like Punch Drunk and Inherent Vice, are the ones I least want to see again. But all of his movies are funny, to an extent. Comedies of the human condition.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
I was frustrated that they only hinted at some of the more interesting things going on around them
this is otm for me. i wish i saw what other people see in his last 3 but i just cant get there. they each feel like he's settled into this mode of where theres all these great actors filmed beautifully, arrayed into really interesting characters and relationships located in a really fascinating specific historical milieu, and as they orbit each other a movie always seems to be juuuust on the verge of breaking out but never quite does. eventually it feels like its all just about teeing up shots for Our Finest Actors to get to do Big Important Acting Moments, and i check out.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
I can watch Phantom Thread any time.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
The last half is a dare triumphantly realized, and as much as the film works as a depiction of masculine ego it's also damn funny, because, after all, we need good tea and sausage for breakfast and a martini with a twist after a hard day.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
In other words: no consensus!
I still haven't seen Phantom Thread!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link
xpost That's just it, the fact that he's made so many movies yet there is no consensus which ones are the good/great ones really sets him apart for me. They're (mostly) all pretty interesting/novel.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
What gets me is how often he fumbles in the last half-hour, to the point where I'm saying, "That's what he thinks this film is all about?!?" The Master is the only one with a great denouement, but they almost all have great scenes and performances (Inherent Vice lost me completely).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
i got a bit lost during inherent vice, but i get a bit lost during all pynchon stories so it seemed normal
― typo hell #6: i really don't much at all (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
lol, yes, that felt very faithful to the source material
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
"That's what he thinks this film is all about?!?" The Master is the only one with a great denouement,
Ha The Master is the ne plus ultra film for me having this reaction
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
i remember watching the end of phantom thread and getting really excited at the last scene, thinking "ah what a great development! its going to be really interesting watching PTA and these actors explore this in the second half of the movie!" but then the credits rolled :/
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
Haha same
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
But why continue? It would rehash what we just watched in the last 50 minutes.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link
Anyone who hates on Boogie Nights is a fucking demon afaic, that movie is hysterically funny and bleak and pitch-perfect for what it is. Even the outtakes are great.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
i feel like there's no strain in the master at all, and in fact that's what distinguishes it from his previous films. things are allowed to be
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
it is also amazing to me that people don't get inherent vice which is a lovely film on the surface and beneath that surface a seismograph of the slow death of american culture set right in the waning of the hippie era and the dawning of the yuppie era to the point where you can feel everyone in the film's possibilities and fundamental dignity being restrained/undermined by the untrammeled flow of capital and corruption but i guess we aren't stoned all the time
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
and like ..... any good noir(?), following the mystery isn't the point
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
xp to Alfred idk, im speculating about a movie that doesnt exist, but its not hard to imagine there would be some interesting things to explore w/two characters in that setting who have come to that realization about themselves & each other. for a filmmaking style that is so much about patiently observing unusual humans as they move through very specific worlds, i definitely didnt see that scene and think "ah, now i know everything i need to know about these two characters, nothing further needed!"
but also, like Halfway There, i also assumed the movie was going somewhere different. it seemed kind of obvious, more of the "yes, finally" feeling of a plot finally turning than a satisfying ending for me. i felt similar w/the master - after 87 consecutive scenes of them acting out an unrequited love, the final scene just left me thinking "thats it? thats all we're going to do with this?"
tbf phantom thread is one i havent revisted, i wonder if i'd get more out of it now that i understand the shape of it.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
I just enjoyed Inherent Vice a lot better as a novel.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
(I haven’t watched this trailer yet and have never been a PTA stan but maybe it’d be fun to be part of the party this cycle.)
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson
otm -- he became a better writer and a better director of his scripts
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link