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I ended up feeling pretty ambivalent about Ted Lasso S2 as well. Some of the story lines worked for me -- Ted & Doc Sharon, Roy & Keely, Ted & Rebecca. But others didn't work as well: Sam & Rebecca, Sam's journey of self-discovery, Dani, and I didn't love how they evolved Nate's character. Even though they had more episodes and many episodes stretched to 40+ minutes, it felt like they didn't spend enough time on some of the story lines to build the resonance / emotional connection they wanted.

i have enjoyed Ted Lasso s2, and i think theyve been able to show a lot of depth to these characters while still keeping it funny

i am bummed that Nate’s the bad guy but the way they handled it makes a sort of logical sense to me. self-loathing does become fuel for bitterness, especially in context of nates family (dad) & constantly trying to prove himself — but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid, - he hasn’t just gone mental out of the blue, he is sharply aware of what is happening but his vision of the world around him & the way he thinks others see him has also warped, like both things can be true? idk. tl dr.

Ugh this season was so bad. They definitely rushed it into production after the first season was such a big hit. Everything felt like nods and winks toward complexity/character development, but the writers never had the guts to actually write the scenes they alluded to. Examples:

1. Other than Ted's "breakthrough," which amounted to "it hurt when my dad killed himself," there were no scenes with the therapist. We were supposed to be happy with just the fact that Ted agreed to do therapy. Also, why did they hire a therapist for one year? What a strange idea.

2. The whole thing with Beard's girlfriend. I did kinda enjoy the Beard After Dark thing, but again, why didn't they actually have a real scene with those two?

3. Sam and Rebecca. Not only was this messed up from an age standpoint (it says the actor who plays Rebecca is "47," but come on now), but Rebecca is literally Sam's owner. Gross. We never get anything other than lots of shots of them looking lovingly at their iPhone 13s and a couple snippets of text messages to show them falling in love.

Once the bloom was off the rose for me on this show, Ted's cliche-ridden speech patterns went from charming to just this endless parade of groaners. I was hoping the shrink might cure him of that, but I guess not.

I do think they laid the groundwork, but I also think he went so extreme that there's really no one or nothing that would have made him happy. And really no room for redemption. But I also don't want a season of Evil Nate, either.

Most non-threatening bad guy ever.

Again, no prob with this season per se, I enjoyed it, acting was good, was funny and all that. But I didn't buy the Sam and Rebecca thing either, not least because, yeah, they barely had any scenes together demonstrating a soulmate like connection.

Also, if Keeley is posing for a photoshoot that is supposed to show her as a badass boss b**ch, why is she literally wearing a padlock around her neck?

i'm leaning a little closer to DJI's take tbh

That British-flavored "Home Alone" movie with Pete Holmes in it is... something

i'm leaning a little closer to DJI's take tbh

It took me about three episodes in to see the theme of self-improvement, particularly on mental health, and I liked that. I actually loved Ted's journey with the Doc, which was well-paced through the season. Whereas with the other characters, it was often too quickly resolved. I dunno, it was a pretty disappointing season for me given how much I loved S1, all the more because I see some seeds of a strong season that didn't really get there. I also think the previously mentioned extended episode times were not used well

Tbh I didn’t even care that much for the shrink stuff, it was a bit too by the numbers. Sorry to play Momus and be a bit jaded but: OMG, it turns out this over-optimistic if occasionally charming chatterbox has daddy issues, who’d have thought, but even in the end he is able to help the doc, who turns out to have issues of her own, just as much as she helps him.

I was much more interested in the psychological stuff in I come in peace... three times a night -- FOR ALL MANKIND (Apple TV Plus), for example.

That British-flavored "Home Alone" movie with Pete Holmes in it is... something

This looks absolutely horrific.

is it called Holmes Alone?

can definitely picture pete holmes' shameless mug doing the culkin scream

I watched the latest episode of Only Murders the night after seeing the dialogue-less episode of Mr. Robot, pretty cool coincidence.

― Leee Tigre (Leee), Monday, 4 October 2021 15:32 (one week ago)

Were people expecting cinema verite with Ted Lasso or something

Yes, nothing less will do.

Once I realized they weren't going to punish Sam for standing against their sponsor, following it up with Higgins' kid seeing Santa Claus, I went "oh I get it, this is an alternate dimension where being kind always pays off" and that made me watch the show very differently

But does it pay off for Ted himself? I guess we will see.

i saw there was some midnight mass discussion here. i am not really watching much "prestige tv" these days but that was one thing that broke through for me. it is very good and i recommend it if you're into horror (it isn't too extreme) and/or discussions of faith/death/forgiveness, and don't mind a slower pace. i found its twist on the ******* horror genre pretty interesting - it's not a huge or unprecedented twist but it's effective. i need to watch more mike flanagan stuff, i've only seen doctor sleep (as good as it could be based on the source material) and a few episodes of haunting of hill house (seemed good but i didn't have the time to keep up with it)

That has gotten really good reviews around here. I am intrigued.

"That British-flavored "Home Alone" movie with Pete Holmes in it is... something"

I love Aisling Bea and am disappointed she is in this but maybe she got a bunch of money and maybe this will help greenlight another season of This Way Up

Flanagan: Midnight Mass is the best thing he's done that I've seen, it succeeded on pretty much every level. Both Haunting series are good, but go awry at some point and I don't even remember how Bly Manor ended. I thought Doctor Sleep was ok and the things wrong with it were wrong with the source material. And I forgot that he made Oculus, which in fact I think is very very good.

yeah, I'm not sure I've seen anything of his since that. or maybe hush? anyway, I've generally liked everything I've seen of his, but he's since turned into Mr Stephen King, so I've lost a little bit of interest. I did see the one with what's her name handcuffed the entire time, actually thought that was pretty good.

The end of Bly Manor was wild, just from the standpoint of "I see you were going for an allegory on the acceptance of mortality but you accidentally ended up on 'life is made of dread and then one day you abandon your loved ones before you murder them'"

i wonder if I even watched bly manor, now that I think of it.

I think I'm going to pause my watching of Y: The Last Man, the pace of which is incredibly slower than it is in the comics, and I think that if I had them ready to watch every day it might go down better. Although the relative lack of humor in the show is not a good sign IMO.

got a couple of months of Now TV for £1, so binge watched that Lotus thing.
watchable escapism.
though the kidman pantomime russian accent thing was somewhat offputting.

however, as i have a few weeks left on the cheap deal, i decided to try out something else and plumped for Brassic.
f&ck me i enjoyed it.
laughs aplenty amongst the excess swearing and cliches overload.
i reckon i could watch joe gilgun in just about anything.

and yes, even when he is a vampire.
he is by far the best thing in Preacher.

oh i didnt know abt Brassic! its on hulu here, i’ll check it out. love Joe Gilgun so much

he is genuinely one of the best actors at the moment.
in Brassic his character has bipolar as he does IRL.
apparently a lot of his experiences were incorportated into the Vinnie character.
hope you enjoy it VG.
it has totally made the last couple of weeks fly by.
and weirdly i think i swear a lot more now.

“Sam and Rebecca,” huh? Where have we heard that before

(I still haven’t watched TL.)

but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into

Not to mention his shitty bullying behavior towards the new towel boy

ok

it’s reached a point where it is not enjoyable to talk abt Ted Lasso itt anymore so i will refrain

Sorry vg :(

<3 s’alright. you’re not wrong.

Some kind of sitcom gravity thing, wherein the characters end up becoming too likeable or unlikeable in a formulaic way.

“Sam and Rebecca,” huh? Where have we heard that before

They make a joke about it on the show too

Midnight Mass - “where do we go when we die” convo is a drag. I came for creepy priests not bad Christian movie.

_but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid_

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into

Meantime

https://gizmodo.com/y-the-last-man-canceled-at-fx-as-its-first-season-ends-1847881430

I'm bailing on that after last week - the Washington-based arc is awful and especially the Meghan McCain/Ivanka Trump character.

I'll ride it all the way to the ground. It had enough interesting ideas to keep me on board.

Just read the trade paperbacks IMO.

I hate 99% of comics.

So do I but the Y GNs are good.

Oh shit, so after all those delays and false starts, they finally got the show going and fucked it up badly enough that it's one season?

looks like it