Yeah part of me is all "They really should have just done this like LOTR and did the whole damn thing," but on the flip the book covers three years' time so...it could work? Though there's still a key moment in the book that hasn't been reached before the big time jump to the final section said three years later.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 06:34 (three years ago) link
I assume Tiny Tim will need to eat some protein between shoots.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 October 2021 06:42 (three years ago) link
My guess would figure the cut off would be after Jessica takes the water of life and then Paul rides the sandworm for the first time being the end.
― earlnash, Friday, 22 October 2021 10:33 (three years ago) link
You’ll see!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
I don't expect to read the novel, so when I watch this weekend I hope to enjoy it at the level of Tolkienland, whose books I also haven't read.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 October 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link
Yeah part of me has been so steeped in the whole thing all this time more than once I was asking myself "How would I be taking this in if I didn't know anything about it?" It was kinda hard to do! But it seemed like it would land?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
does Chalamet appear in a loin cloth or
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 October 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
A few minutes in you'll behold a lot of his pale wonder, if you will.
One thing it absolutely has over the Lynch is that it avoids the static shot/voiceover moments, which were meant to be translations of the constant interior comments in the story. My sense is that they didn't lose anything by avoiding that this time out.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
Was it weird that the Emperor wasn't in this at all? or did I nod off at some stage...
― Maresn3st, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
is there ANY sci-fi tale in which Palpatine doesn't figure?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 October 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
The way in which the plot kinda ossifies the relationship between Paul and his Mother after Leto's death and the struggle to escape, was always, for me, the least appealing and darkest part of the story and it translates pretty much the same to this new version, it's so grim that part.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
I like that the Emperor was offscreen and this hidden stringpuller — he doesn’t surface in the book until the end anyway.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
no pugs no credibility
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
i failed to recognize charlotte rampling : /
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
It took me a good while to realise I was watching Stellan Skarsgård, I was sure The Baron was being played by Peter Stormare
― Maresn3st, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
I will say this -- they were wise to drop this from the final cut. VERY wise.
Okay so now _Dune_ is out and I can talk about things from the art book that detail scenes that didn't make the final edit, including this one with the WORLD'S WORST JOKE. Would have made the Baron a 1970s James Bond villain or something. pic.twitter.com/pJ6zDoG3Y4— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) October 22, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
loool
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
Alternately if the whole film had been like that, fuck, bring it on!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
Dune was pretty good. No big surprises but it met my expectations. Cool Baron, cool sandworms.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 22 October 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
I did like the, for lack of a better word, quotidian sandworm moments, like you'll be out there somewhere and whoops, another sandworm goes by.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAA0sYkLI0
― Maresn3st, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
"And here is where I poked him in the eye."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
This was so bland and boring. I wasn't even planning to watch it, and I'm sorry I did.
(MALIGNANT remains the best movie of 2021.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 October 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link
malignant was some scooby doo ass bullshit
― gbx, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link
i kinda loved this … without the internal monologues of the book you def lose some character development, there is such a richness in jessica in particular & paul too that is lostbut ~not~ having to endure that cinematically as like whispers or narration or whatever was a good call so idkthe scale was incredible though. the architecture! & the design inside the buildings. plus all that excellent movement in the sand, the machinery, all of the world building was pretty fantastic to me. thopter (ugh) glider into sandstorm sequence was SO good, as exciting as the book. … and for the po-facedness of the character dialogue the actors all do a good job of it not seeming too dorky or wooden. javier bardem def a deep favorite. and beardo oscar <3?
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link
hans zimmer’s score was great too i thought -ole Hans is having a pretty good year between this and No Time to Die
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 06:54 (three years ago) link
my son and i saw the trailer for this in this cinema and he was like “so it’s basically star wars?” and i was like “……. yes”
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 23 October 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link
i get to make my "gom jabbar the hutt" joek
i spared twitter this joek but you guys deserve it
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:08 (three years ago) link
i need to review bcz after i saw it (last night) i dremt a whole extra act in which gurney halleck organised a soc dem political movement in arrakeen, whose themetune was "we built this city on rock n roll"
which doesn't *not* fit into the story
anyway it introduced elements which have confused me in my critical appraisal
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:10 (three years ago) link
— too few pugs and chapman-stick solos ☹️— not much whispering 😀— solution to effective "weirding" not yet found imo— solution to portrayal of foresight corrent or otherwise confusing and bad SITO
i enjoyed it a lot! the story (including the book) remains enjoyable rubbish even when/because it's all so earnest
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:30 (three years ago) link
corrent = correct
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link
haen't read the book bu tI loved this and now will read the book and see the second movie when it comes out
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link
which film will this guy be in:
https://www.bashfineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/11262_detail.jpg
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
with his strangely italian hand gestures
smh it's making the worm power gesture...
― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
lots of shots of empty CGI spaces with like 20 dudes running at each other shouting "sardaukar!!!"
― adam, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link
What, that's not your daily workout?
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
the fight scenes did seem to have too many cuts/angles, i found it hard to track at times i really hope we get a part 2, i think bautista and dastmalchian are superbly cast as rabban & piotr and am dying to see the full scope of their stories bear out
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
You're not going to see Dastmalchian anymore, he got killed off by Leto in the poison scene, as in the book. Would be great to get more of him, no lie.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
As for Bautista, great presence in a small role for now, but given I am assuming that there's no Feyd-Rautha period and so Rabban's essentially going to be the standin for Feyd-Rautha at the end duel...let's just say that I don't care if he's the Kwisatz Haderach, imagining Mr. Chalamet up against Dave in a duel is going to take a leap of faith.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
oh duh lol oopsalso: Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat is such great casting, he is such a wonderful expressive actor & does so much w very little
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
watching pt II with my large cut-out of sting-as-feyd angrily stood beside me
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
lolis it bad that i already want to see the extended version that i assume exists?
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
it's pugs all the the way down
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
also: Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat is such great casting, he is such a wonderful expressive actor & does so much w very little
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:48 (twenty-eight minutes ago) link
Agree 100%. I really liked him in devs
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
Yeah wish there was more of him. Think it's pretty smart to set up the film for a non-book audience where you just figure both Gurney and Thufir are dead and gone for now, since that's pretty much what Paul and Jessica are figuring, though again with no Feyd-Rautha and all I'm not sure *if* Thufir's story will be told.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
in the book thufir just becomes shaddam's adviser, no? i mean he's around for a while still but he doesn't really *do* anything else?
as for halleck:
i dremt a whole extra act in which gurney halleck organised a soc dem political movement in arrakeen, whose themetune was "we built this city on rock n roll"― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 11:10 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 11:10 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
queue massive bagpipe solo
― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
They left out Thufir's suspicions of Jessica (which Gunnery comes to share) and Piotr's spice addiction.
― jbn, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
the other day someone posted it's a movie about a planet made out of cocaine.
― calzino, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link