A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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I will say this -- they were wise to drop this from the final cut. VERY wise.

Okay so now _Dune_ is out and I can talk about things from the art book that detail scenes that didn't make the final edit, including this one with the WORLD'S WORST JOKE. Would have made the Baron a 1970s James Bond villain or something. pic.twitter.com/pJ6zDoG3Y4

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) October 22, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

loool

mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

Alternately if the whole film had been like that, fuck, bring it on!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

It took me a good while to realise I was watching Stellan Skarsgård, I was sure The Baron was being played by Peter Stormare

Always get those two etc.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 October 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

Dune was pretty good. No big surprises but it met my expectations. Cool Baron, cool sandworms.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 22 October 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

I did like the, for lack of a better word, quotidian sandworm moments, like you'll be out there somewhere and whoops, another sandworm goes by.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAA0sYkLI0

Maresn3st, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

"And here is where I poked him in the eye."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

This was so bland and boring. I wasn't even planning to watch it, and I'm sorry I did.

(MALIGNANT remains the best movie of 2021.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 October 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link

malignant was some scooby doo ass bullshit

gbx, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

i kinda loved this … without the internal monologues of the book you def lose some character development, there is such a richness in jessica in particular & paul too that is lost
but ~not~ having to endure that cinematically as like whispers or narration or whatever was a good call so idk

the scale was incredible though. the architecture! & the design inside the buildings. plus all that excellent movement in the sand, the machinery, all of the world building was pretty fantastic to me.

thopter (ugh) glider into sandstorm sequence was SO good, as exciting as the book.

… and for the po-facedness of the character dialogue the actors all do a good job of it not seeming too dorky or wooden.
javier bardem def a deep favorite.
and beardo oscar <3?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link

hans zimmer’s score was great too i thought -ole Hans is having a pretty good year between this and No Time to Die

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 06:54 (three years ago) link

my son and i saw the trailer for this in this cinema and he was like “so it’s basically star wars?” and i was like “……. yes”

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 23 October 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link

i get to make my "gom jabbar the hutt" joek

i spared twitter this joek but you guys deserve it

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:08 (three years ago) link

i need to review bcz after i saw it (last night) i dremt a whole extra act in which gurney halleck organised a soc dem political movement in arrakeen, whose themetune was "we built this city on rock n roll"

which doesn't *not* fit into the story

anyway it introduced elements which have confused me in my critical appraisal

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:10 (three years ago) link

— too few pugs and chapman-stick solos ☹️
— not much whispering 😀
— solution to effective "weirding" not yet found imo
— solution to portrayal of foresight corrent or otherwise confusing and bad SITO

i enjoyed it a lot! the story (including the book) remains enjoyable rubbish even when/because it's all so earnest

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:30 (three years ago) link

corrent = correct

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link

haen't read the book bu tI loved this and now will read the book and see the second movie when it comes out

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

which film will this guy be in:

https://www.bashfineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/11262_detail.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

with his strangely italian hand gestures

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

smh it's making the worm power gesture...

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

lots of shots of empty CGI spaces with like 20 dudes running at each other shouting "sardaukar!!!"

adam, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

What, that's not your daily workout?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

the fight scenes did seem to have too many cuts/angles, i found it hard to track at times

i really hope we get a part 2, i think bautista and dastmalchian are superbly cast as rabban & piotr and am dying to see the full scope of their stories bear out

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

You're not going to see Dastmalchian anymore, he got killed off by Leto in the poison scene, as in the book. Would be great to get more of him, no lie.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

As for Bautista, great presence in a small role for now, but given I am assuming that there's no Feyd-Rautha period and so Rabban's essentially going to be the standin for Feyd-Rautha at the end duel...let's just say that I don't care if he's the Kwisatz Haderach, imagining Mr. Chalamet up against Dave in a duel is going to take a leap of faith.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

oh duh lol oops

also: Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat is such great casting, he is such a wonderful expressive actor & does so much w very little

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

watching pt II with my large cut-out of sting-as-feyd angrily stood beside me

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

lol

is it bad that i already want to see the extended version that i assume exists?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

it's pugs all the the way down

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

also: Stephen McKinley Henderson as Thufir Hawat is such great casting, he is such a wonderful expressive actor & does so much w very little

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:48 (twenty-eight minutes ago) link

Agree 100%. I really liked him in devs

xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

Yeah wish there was more of him. Think it's pretty smart to set up the film for a non-book audience where you just figure both Gurney and Thufir are dead and gone for now, since that's pretty much what Paul and Jessica are figuring, though again with no Feyd-Rautha and all I'm not sure *if* Thufir's story will be told.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

in the book thufir just becomes shaddam's adviser, no? i mean he's around for a while still but he doesn't really *do* anything else?

as for halleck:

i dremt a whole extra act in which gurney halleck organised a soc dem political movement in arrakeen, whose themetune was "we built this city on rock n roll"

― mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 11:10 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

queue massive bagpipe solo

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

They left out Thufir's suspicions of Jessica (which Gunnery comes to share) and Piotr's spice addiction.

jbn, Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

the other day someone posted it's a movie about a planet made out of cocaine.

calzino, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

there was actually surprisingly little up-close spice-related action or even conversation

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

in the book thufir just becomes shaddam's adviser, no?

No he ends up with the Harkonnens and conspires with Feyd-Rautha to work towards undermining the Baron and vice-versa, kinda. Essentially he's trying to work out a long term revenge.

But as jbn notes, a big plot element in the book neither Lynch nor Villeneuve (so far) have run with is the fact that the Atreides know there IS a traitor within the ranks but don't guess it's Yueh, due to his imperial conditioning (mentioned in Lynch, not in the new one), and suspicions re the Bene Gesserit combined with misdirection on the part of the Harkonnens et al means Jessica takes the blame after the fact, with both Gurney and Thufir thinking this for most of the rest of the book. Arguably there's still a way that Villeneuve could bring all this back in a second movie, especially since there's a great scene between Gurney and Jessica about this towards the end of the book.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

SUK medical conditioning more like medical conditioning that SUKS

mark s, Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

in the Lynch Dune the hunter-seeker was a much more manageable size, it's so small in this one it's just not playing fair.

calzino, Saturday, 23 October 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

I watched this at home and enjoyed shouting out lines to the screen with no shame.

I also did not know that imax movies cost 25 bucks, goddamn.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 23 October 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

I have no allegiance to the source material, which I may have read once as a kid, but I liked this fine, with some reservations. Obviously George Lucas borrowed a ton from "Dune," but this was like Villeneuve took his "faster, more intense!" maxim and flipped it on its head. "Slower! More solemn!"

Speaking of Villeneuve (who seems to be the king of hard sci-fi updates of existing properties that demand a pretty deep understanding of the material), did he really orchestrate this epic spectacle with only the *potential* of a sequel? I thought making more than one movie at a time was the way people do franchises these days.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 October 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

using the movie as an excuse to post this glorious old classic meme

It’s opening week. Shout out to my favorite Dune meme. pic.twitter.com/DHLhOI0L1G

— Kaitlin Pike (@kcpike) October 23, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:58 (three years ago) link

nevertheless

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCblWK8WYAA5lOQ?format=jpg&name=small

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 October 2021 05:30 (three years ago) link

Can't wait for DUNE 2: THE CLONES OF DUNCAN FUNKENSTEIN

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 24 October 2021 06:15 (three years ago) link

dune movies rankings go lynch, dune 2 pc game intro movie, late 90s sy fy channel, this two hour whooooompfest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tC32ZIYXlE

adam, Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:06 (three years ago) link

really enjoyed this, wish i wouldn’t have to wait three years for part two

i’ve never read the book and have only seen lynch’s dune

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:28 (three years ago) link

zimmer score was crazy good

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:29 (three years ago) link

casting was also excellent, momoa as duncan idaho!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

i did not think i would like this or even finish it tbh but alas i did, its pretty sick

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

This might be the first movie shot at 24fps but written at 60fps.

FWIW, I took my teen, who literally knew nothing about it except that Timothee Chalamet was in it, and Zendaya was barely in it. But she said she liked it, understood (most of) it, and is looking forward to part two. Which, yeah, again, that just seems a weird strategy, to release this spectacular but spectacularly inert epic and make people wait so long for a sequel that may or may not but probably will but still maybe won't happen. Lord of the Rings movies were bam bam bam, one year after the next, and for all their aracane nerdery those movies were (by design) a lot more exciting and accessible than this one. Even this one's cliffhanger ending barely generates enough momentum to get it over the hump.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link


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