A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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Not that Lynch bothered with it either, but if you're on Dune, why not more little scenes of people dumping sand out their boots or gagging on sand, picking sand out of their teeth and eyes?

Well it's worth noting that Villeneuve got closer -- at least at points, would have been nice to have full consistency -- to the stated idea that the stillsuits really are full body coverings, where it wasn't just the mouth/nose being covered up but the eyes were hid behind goggles of some sort built into the a face covering. Having it be just the eyes exposed at points was a reasonable enough balance but again, wasn't really done down the line.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

Ned - It shouldn't be surprising and it does make sense, but it still surprises me that a singer from a band like Dead Can Dance ends up in the biggest films imaginable. Same with Diamanda Galas in mainstream films.

To my mind it's just a reflection of two intertwined goals -- a desire on the part of musicians like that do more (and certainly get more to live on) combined with not only contemporaries who enjoy the work as they find it but a slew of sensitive artistic teenagers who worshipped said artists becoming working artistic creators who can do something about said fandom after a certain point. (Also worth remembering that another reference point for that kind of vocal approach, especially in terms of the European popular imagination, are Bulgarian women's choirs; I wouldn't be surprised if Zimmer was coming more from that direction.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

is johnny marr on the soundtrack tho

mookieproof, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

He's the Emperor

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

I dug the eye-rolly move of mentats calculating, but you could weirdly see the pupils underneath, so is it not really an eye-roll but a white flap of eyeball membrane moving up?
If that was so, they could have done a quick thing of this eyeball-flick white membrane ejecting some sand and grit. Also, could have included a scene of Bautista going ape on a servant for not picking off every grain of sand on his space pizza. What better way to establish why he's the BEAST Rabban?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

The (temporarily) shield-contained explosions of the Atreides ships was incredible.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

And some Fremen could just later hand Paul a big old sand sandwich and he just chomps down on it, grit and all, chomp chomp chomp grit grit grit, bits of sand flying out the corner of his mouth.

Then they can all murmur, "he shall know your ways as if born to them..."

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

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— Andy (@alreadytaken74) October 24, 2021

groovypanda, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

thats right

mark s, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

Dune is a movie that dares to ask the question: what if Scottish people invaded Iraq

— femboj zizek đŸ˜”â€đŸ’« (@fembojj) October 25, 2021

calzino, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

emailing Noam Chomsky for his opinion on political matters in the year 10191 AG pic.twitter.com/LhtEexnqMt

— The Lich King of LugbĂșrz (@lodgepolepines) October 25, 2021

another good thing about this movie is Lynch Dune memes coming back into fashion to own the libs!

calzino, Monday, 25 October 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

best line in the whole movie pic.twitter.com/BXVst2tbqN

— Good Luck (@DoorHinge9) October 25, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 October 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link

This was the best, surely

Loved this scene from DUNE pic.twitter.com/rt81cUPAyn

— James Urbaniak (@JamesUrbaniak) October 25, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link

Not a meme, but wow, I had forgotten how utterly abysmal this was

I don't know what I love most about this trailer for the SyFy (then SciFi Channel) version of DUNE: the soundtrack composed entirely in free software, the clunky CGI, or William Hurt just going ALL-IN with his take on "THEY TRIED TO TAKE THE LIFE OF MY SON!" pic.twitter.com/Q6uxXeF8lB

— I'm A Doctor Not A Kevin Church (@Kevin_Church) October 25, 2021

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link

the director of the SyFy series, John Harrison is an exec producer on the new movie - i think perhaps because of rights rather than direct involvement in the movie itself

(also he played the screwdriver zombie in Romero’s Dawn of the Dead)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link

I don't like much about Villeneuve movies so far apart from the Blade Runner sequel, which took me a 2nd viewing to realise it was more than just franchise product and actually a very good movie. But this one I expected to like, because I saw the Lynch version at the cinema when I was 13 and it was a wonderful and daft headfuck with seriously fucked up psychosexual undercurrents and allsorts of weird shit going on for a PG cert movie. This adaptation is a bit more normal but still it rocks bells and the soundtrack is just as good as the Toto one.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

scolds: “there is no humor on this movie!”

thufir huwat, holding his little parasol: *smiles gently*

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link

i watched that video upthread of villaneuve breaking down the gom jabbar scene and it was dope. gonna fall asleep to the movie tonight

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link

Yeah that was one of the better such ones I've seen.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link

I loved this! In particular I loved that it felt like a unique fight-choreography language was devised. I am going to watch this a second time for sure

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

Just had to google "gom jabbar," which underscores the different levels of "Dune" familiarity in this thread.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

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— 🍂 an autumn afternoon enjoyer 🍂 (@c0mmunicants) October 23, 2021

韜, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

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— Dark Priestess Fembot (@__femb0t) October 24, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link

In particular I loved that it felt like a unique fight-choreography language was devised.

Yeah I read something about that in the art book -- paraphrasing but the idea was that if indeed 'the slow blade penetrates the shield' then fighting has to be incredibly adept to do just that, combining fast and slow moves.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

If you dropped a big boulder on someone with a body shield, would they survive but just be stuck there?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

Presumably like the bombs used on the ships, as Spencer noted above, gravity could do the rest but it seems like you need a little something extra.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

i didn’t know what “gom jabbar” was before seeing the movie either

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

I have to remind myself sometimes that I've been familiar with the term longer than some of you have likely been alive.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

Bo shuda.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

i liked the movie but i do think this is right about it and villeneuve, idk if its right about the book since i never read it

'Dune' has no ideas: https://t.co/GYcbwkRnYY pic.twitter.com/9c0t8ZoknS

— Defector (@DefectorMedia) October 26, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

we want the shields to make sense but probably they dont its just some cool shit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

his Blade Runner 2049 recaptured much of the shine but little of the soul

okidoke

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

I'm so familiar with the gom jabbar scene that I noticed the set-up and took my pee break accordingly

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

Which then led me to be like "wait Charlotte Rampling was in this?!" at the closing credits

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

his Blade Runner 2049 recaptured much of the shine but little of the soul

okidoke

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:44 AM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

do people like that movie i couldnt get into it, seemed like an elaborate perfume commercial

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

Has anyone tweeted about making their own stillsuit so they could pee in the theater and not miss anything?

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

and dune was 2.5 hours of exfoliation propaganda xp

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

Blade Runner 2049 was maybe a more attractive film to look at, but this was considerably more entertaining

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

writing it's "not a prestige hardcover" is a good way of signalling one is a total wanker without changing your name by deed poll to Barry Wanker.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

interesting that villeneuve and nolan are two of the big mainstream auteurs, theyre pretty similar they both make highly competent visually bold seamless films that are also kind of dull and lifeless, you could even throw fincher into that basket although hes obvs much better, films that seem a more like works of technology than art

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

no no i don't agree with this thesis at all

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link

call it a perfume commercial if you want but the sex scene in 2049 is probably one of the most emotionally vivid scenes i've ever seen in a hard sci-fi-ass movie, which it undoubtedly is

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

i dont think i made it that far but i might give it another shot

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

Nolan inspires intense loyalty among straight men under 40, i.e. not me.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

its true its weird its almost like hes... incepted them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

I really liked Villeneuve's Blade Runner and liked Arrival, too, iirc. The difference between him and Nolan is that Villeneuve's movies are filled with lots of ideas, and Nolan's movies are usually built around *one* idea, and often a dumb one at that (as much as I've liked more than a few of his movies).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

i dont want to offend anyone here because i know the movie touched a lot of people i will just speak to my personal experience which is that arrival was one of the most singularly stupid things ive ever encountered

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

is this something: CHOAM NOMSKY

mark s, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link


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