A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

writing it's "not a prestige hardcover" is a good way of signalling one is a total wanker without changing your name by deed poll to Barry Wanker.

interesting that villeneuve and nolan are two of the big mainstream auteurs, theyre pretty similar they both make highly competent visually bold seamless films that are also kind of dull and lifeless, you could even throw fincher into that basket although hes obvs much better, films that seem a more like works of technology than art

no no i don't agree with this thesis at all

call it a perfume commercial if you want but the sex scene in 2049 is probably one of the most emotionally vivid scenes i've ever seen in a hard sci-fi-ass movie, which it undoubtedly is

i dont think i made it that far but i might give it another shot

Nolan inspires intense loyalty among straight men under 40, i.e. not me.

its true its weird its almost like hes... incepted them

I really liked Villeneuve's Blade Runner and liked Arrival, too, iirc. The difference between him and Nolan is that Villeneuve's movies are filled with lots of ideas, and Nolan's movies are usually built around *one* idea, and often a dumb one at that (as much as I've liked more than a few of his movies).

i dont want to offend anyone here because i know the movie touched a lot of people i will just speak to my personal experience which is that arrival was one of the most singularly stupid things ive ever encountered

is this something: CHOAM NOMSKY

nom nom nom

like at least inception wasnt trying to be deep about the meaning of life, it was men running in suits all the way down, where arrival was meeting an alien who gives you a hallmark card

we do not watch movies the same way.............. and that's ok

I think Inception *was* trying to be deep about deep stuff, just wasn't that successful at it. "All that we see or seem ..." etc.

Tbf, I haven't seen "Arrival" since it came out, but aspects and elements of it definitely stuck with me.

yeah i mean obvs inception was trying to be deep but it was just so dumb and bland, where the glib sentimentality of arrival was more offensive to me personally particularly with the super hackish dead kid storyline i was just like you cant possibly be trying to pull this one over on us

you know what other scifi evoked the dead kid, and totally extraneously in this case, was gravity, which wouldve been a much cooler movie with out all that character building

I appreciated his making Dunkirk. We needed more movies making Churchill a hero and celebrating the English fighting spirit.

lol

matthew mcconaughey whispering through his daughters wall from the fifth dimension... we go to space when really all we wanted... was to come home

i only vaguely remember what sort of bullshit was in the martian, im mad at scifi now, anyway dude was cool in that it was more about cool shit than fake deep shit

went to see this at the actual cinema last night, my wife hated it, more on the fence myself, certainly the cinematography and sound was excellent, yet it didn't quite draw me in enough, it was really very pretty but uninspiringly so. could not stand the action scenes (with a few exceptions all fighting on screen is of no interest to me), and would have liked a lot more of the expected mesmerising hallucinatory dialogue-free long tracking shots.

in the real world where nobody is throwing away their money on sci-fi epics in the tarkovski or even malick mode, then I am happy that this exists, it just isn't for me.

👏👏👏 you forgot these Alfred 👏👏👏

liked this a lot, although i read the book recently enough that i cant get a sense of how well it explained everything bc the details are all fresh in my mind.

only complaint is tbh i am sick beyond measure hans zimmer and his booming bellowing featureless sonic mush, when will we be free of this guy already. in particular hated that recurring vocalization, which felt extremely hack & lazy to me. wish western filmmakers & composers would find a different sound to denote 'exotic religion' & 'desert landscapes' in 2021 ffs

wish western filmmakers & composers would find a different sound to denote 'exotic religion' & 'desert landscapes' in 2021 ffs

Joel Osteen singing psalms flying over Arizona desert.

I watched some promo piece about how Zimmer went about writing this soundtrack, just thousands of hours of creating instruments and talking to disparate musicians and experimenting and then we get the soundtrack and... it's just more Hans Zimmer noises.

like the Stones working with the Dust Brothers and walking out with a song sampling k d lang

i was expecting to dislike zimmer's score, and i def eco the feeling that the vocalizations are very played out. there were def good moments though, especially the hair-raising sounds during the gom jabbar scene and the scene on the sarduakar planet

More accurate, Hans Zimmer noises.

lol yes there was plenty of that one particular hans zimmer noise, which really only makes sense in a theater, and even then is not quite what it was a decade ago

I did think less soundtrack than sound design (and as such enjoyed it). It really almost wanted to be the anti-Toto soundtrack, barely anything resembling a hook!

it's pretty amazing that Toto brought way more chunky guitar riffing than you get from virtually any other sci-fi epic, who'da thunk?

Watched the new one this past weekend. It's so dull! And that scene near the end where Paul says DESERT POWER is like a Chevron commercial. Lynch Dune is 1000x better.

what was the deal with the bagpipes then?

Has Villeneuve explained why Paul no longer has a younger sister?

Because said younger sister hasn't been born yet in the movie's timeline.

He mentions he knows his mother is pregnant and there's that one vision sequence where she's holding a baby with blue eyes, which will almost certainly be Alia.

what was the deal with the bagpipes then?

Ah the bagpipes. Exact quote from the art book, I kid you not: "A week before filming the Atriedes landing on Arrakis, Denis woke up with an idea. He had been dreaming of bagpipes."

as one does

is that a Sting lyric

Would have been awesome if instead of bagpipes it was, like, a New Orleans brass band.

If I were Villeneuve I would have had some alien playing space bagpipes, not a Scottish guy from 10 millennia ago

i for one noticed how many hooks were in the zimmer score. it was v striking to me

pic.twitter.com/BhMAJAQ1LT

— Timothée Chalamet (@RealChalamet) October 26, 2021

Would be funny if it was already done, much like how they didn't announce it was Part 1 of 2 until well into the advance PR campaign.

That would kinda great.

Anyway, amazing:

In honor of the new Dune film, here’s a photo I took in 2018 sitting across from Timothée Chalamet reading dune on the F Train pic.twitter.com/yfxFSUp1lo

— Matt Starr (@HelloMattStarr) October 26, 2021

they actually have 9 dunes in the can

lol wtf are those huge yankees sneakers

Chalamet in that picture about as far into the book as many make it.

Chalamet's hair as far out of the cap as I would allow.