A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

They're going to release a director's cut that's 30% longer just by making it 30% slower.

Dune slowed down 800 times

dune now with more dune

i honestly didn't think that the movie was slow paced at all. it was pretty propulsive, with set piece after set piece, from the gom jabbar scene up to idaho's last stand. it did slow down a bit when he integrated with the fremen, but i recall the novel slowing down at the point as well.

Hmm, I don't think it was particularly boring, because there was so much novel stuff to keep my interest, but I recall more than a few scenes literally in slow motion.

they used slow motion in a movie?

yes but the rest of the movie was at the speed of old timey b&w movies to make up for it

I feel like the book makes clear that Jessica bears a son because she loved Leto and he wanted a male heir, but the movie makes it sound like her pride is based on her thinking she could/should bear the messiah.

it feels like there was quite a bit cut from the final scene between leto and jessica, could've used a little more focus on that instead of the intercutting with sad paul

Zendaya is from Oakland.. 007 director Cary Joji Fukunaga is from Oakland.

We're hot right now

this was great!

goole!

the NYAA HEEEYYY vocal stab during the gob jabbar scene made me laugh

thinking of Steppenwolf kicking in when paul sees the wormrider made me laugh

there's a lot about the book i don't remember, like how paul handles meeting chani for the first time. and i honestly don't remember a thing about leto's father and the space bull!

no navigators, no feyd rautha. otherwise it was solid dune, i give it dune/dune, looking forward to more dune.

hi!

i think i'm one of the only people to have watched the truly awful syfy Children of Dune miniseries (james mcavoy! susan sarandon!). they pronounce the girl's name "Cheney," it's a wreck

i dont want to offend anyone here because i know the movie touched a lot of people i will just speak to my personal experience which is that arrival was one of the most singularly stupid things ive ever encountered

oh wait that was lagoon I am vindicated 😆

the crazy thing is, I believe that may be the correct pronunciation based on recordings of Frank Herbert, but yeah, it's still very wrong

xxp

i really liked arrival, i'm not going to say it wasn't corny but it was corny in a way that made sense

This is not wrong, of course.

i am excited for Dune 4 or 5, when we get Timothy Chalemet's son with the body of a giant worm murdering Jason Momoa for 3,500 years https://t.co/uGDJK5ceEO

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Shai-HuMewed!

against my better judgment but bcz i wz a bit sleepless last night i started to reread DUNE the book last night

— first chapter is the GOM JABBAR chapter so yes, we very much jump into the midst of stuff
— everyone is expositioning non-stop at one another even when they aren't chapter epigraphs by the princess irulan
— i feel when gaius helen mohaim says "a REAL human will lurk in the trap in order to kill ther trapper when they return" this gives paul a permission he does not then take
— paul keeps saying "arrakis! dune! desert planet!" to himself, "desert power" is actually an improvement on this device imo
— the general quality of prose i judge to be OK at best lol (dune messiah is actually better written whatever you think of it as a contribution to the series)
— in terms of scene-setting, action and establishment of stuff we want to find out about it nevertheless does its job

Heavy metal band Iron Maiden wrote the song "To Tame a Land" based on the Dune story. It appears as the closing track to their 1983 album Piece of Mind. The original working title of the song was "Dune"; however, the band was denied permission to use it, with Frank Herbert's agents stating "Frank Herbert doesn't like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially bands like Iron Maiden".

the fremen exclamation "KULL WAHAD" literally means "DEATH TO FALSE METAL"

think i'm one of the only people to have watched the truly awful syfy Children of Dune miniseries (james mcavoy! susan sarandon!). they pronounce the girl's name "Cheney," it's a wreck

I saw it when I was a teenager and enjoyed it!

Arrival was an ambitious attempt at filming a spectacular and unfilmable short story and my only real criticism of it (aside from the fact that it couldn’t possibly do justice to the Chiang story) was that some of the original story dialogue was repeated onscreen word-for-word and didn’t translate well at all

i thought arrival was totally plausible in that it would take an alien form of language cutting your consciousness free from linear time to make someone fall in love with jeremy renner

lol

it's funny how a movie can hurry through big plot elements and show you how they sit next to each other -- watching this i was like, wait the BG plan is maybe to kill off the heir to a great house? just because his hand hurt too much? wouldn't that cause some waves? just tell him thanks kiddo and fuck off! so much for directing events from the shadows

much to consider

https://www.gawker.com/culture/who-should-play-dark-twink-feyd-rautha

I'm not sure if I should be asking this because I'm about halfway through the book and I've watched the new movie and the Lynch one and I can't quite understand or remember the exact reason why the Emperor just randomly decides to hand Arrakis over to the Atreidis family only to then send in the cavalry and try to destroy them. Or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

Basically it's a headfake everyone knows is a headfake -- the Emperor is sending a popular local leader who could be a locus point of resistance to his reign to a place that's highly important but where he's been set up to fail. The Atreides go in knowing this and assume that's it but what isn't known is the extent of the Emperor's military involvement -- the cover story is in essence that the Harkonnens were pissed and reconquered the place on their own. The Sardaukar's involvement and therefore the direct hand of the Emperor in destroying a potential rival is meant to be secret. Thus in the film Duncan Idaho's rage towards Kynes when they first meet about whether she will tell the truth or not.

Seems like a lot of trouble, why didn't they just poison dart everyone?

EPA (Emperor's Poison Regulations) issues.

Well that acronym failed but anyway.

Harkonnen, Atreides, Arrakis :: Russia, US, Afghanistan

who are house Ordos?

Where does Tarkus fit into all this?

paul is UBL and harkonnen is usa

is there any backstory suggesting that house atreides are actively gunning for shaddam or is it just that the padishah emperor is grumpy someone else is more popular than him at the landsraad

also if the landsraad actually has enough heft that shaddam is worried abt being found out, how is it going to respond if it thinks that the (unpopular) harokonnens just went back in and murdered all the (popular) atreides and shaddam -- having ordered the handover -- just says "eh"

everyone's plan is terrible! this known universe needs a jihad imo

otm

the more i learn about it the more im starting to appreciate the finger painting style of dune, it makes enough sense to be compelling but not really enough to withstand examination, good stuff

the movie sort of hints that the atreides are justly popular and admired, but the harkonnens aren't just brilliant and cruel but extraordinarily rich (and likely have their own huge base of support) and have been manipulating the spice market instead of handing it all over to the emperor and the guild, i guess?? or something?

like youre all thats crazy the space witch is just going to kill the heir to a major house what, then you realize its just some cool shit

on the other hand a brief perusal of history will confirm that during the era where there were monarchs and great houses they were constantly doing completely insane bloody schemes

but also maybe the witch was just bluffing, feel like that might be overthinking it tho is what im saying

maybe lynch was the perfect director for this impressionistic intrigue, too bad they didnt give him three movies to do it